The Great Cascade vs Beantown Jim Dispute

[BEANTOWNJIM]

DOUG THAT INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED BY LENNY AT CASCADE SPORTSBOOK HE SAID IT LOOKED LIKE I HAD A GOOD BET AT THE TIME IT WAS PLACED.SO LENNY PROVIDED ALL THE DETAILS SO OBVIOUSLY HE WAS WATCHING THE PLAY AND HAD PLANNED ON STEALING MY MONEY ALL ALONG.TOTAL BULLSHIT NO MATTER HOW YOU TRY AND SPIN IT.

CASCADE SPORTSBOOK ROBBED ME AND THE FORUMS SAT AROUND AND ALLOWED IT BECAUSE THE SPORTSBOOK WAS A PAID ADVERTISER END OF STORY.THESE ARE THE FACTS

 

[CoachLT]

Wil, do you do any dispute resolution with Lenny and Cascade? Thanks, LT

 

[Doug]

DOUG THAT INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED BY LENNY AT CASCADE SPORTSBOOK HE SAID IT LOOKED LIKE I HAD A GOOD BET AT THE TIME IT WAS PLACED.SO LENNY PROVIDED ALL THE DETAILS SO OBVIOUSLY HE WAS WATCHING THE PLAY AND HAD PLANNED ON STEALING MY MONEY ALL ALONG.TOTAL BULLSHIT NO MATTER HOW YOU TRY AND SPIN IT.

CASCADE SPORTSBOOK ROBBED ME AND THE FORUMS SAT AROUND AND ALLOWED IT BECAUSE THE SPORTSBOOK WAS A PAID ADVERTISER END OF STORY.THESE ARE THE FACTS

So you phoned it in, and he told you the score at that time, and still took the bet ?

 

[Doug]

Wil, do you do any dispute resolution with Lenny and Cascade? Thanks, LT

Good luck with that.

BetCascade (SBR rating F): Three players reported a total of $2,113 received in 2008. Cascade currently owes $1,270,123 to SBR readers. The book paid 13 SBR readers installments totaling just over $19,000 since withdrawal processing first stopped in April of 2007. Both books are accepting new players and deposits.

 

[wilheim]

Hello Coach

Unfortunately I cannot take blood out of a stone. I have spoken to Lenny about you and several other Rxers and all I can get from him is have them call me.

I have always liked and respected Lenny and am really sorry to see him and his operation end up in the shape it is in.

I wish I could help but quite frankly I have to believe there is simply no money to pay off past due debts like your at this point in time.

I wish I could help but have to be honest and admit I am powerless to help even myself (if I was owed $ by Cascade) or anyone else at Cascade right now.


wil..

 

[NES]

if your bet had won would you have said 'no it's okay, you all can keep the money, the game had already started.

I will bet money that is exactly what the Manager of Cascade said to BTJ when he called in this bogus claim. Unless you are betting horses the system will not advise the grader of past posted wagers so, you would have to run a special report to see that he had placed it late. Any wager confirmed with pin number and password are final Jim, I wouldnt have given your scumbag-ass anything eather.

Viejo-I image you have taken plenty of "tie after first" wagers in your time havent you?

 

[Timetopay]

I think the Nigerians are out to get you BTJ

 

[wavvy1]

Thoughts going on in BTJ's head (oxymoron) while placing that bet:

OMG I've got the perfect plan! This game should be off the board. This is what I'll do: I'll make the bet, If I win I will collect and brag to my eunich friends at the club. If I lose I will claim that they have a rule. Not a simple rule, but a written rule no less!! It's a win/win situation, I'm a genius!!

Blam! blew up in your face.

 

[BEANTOWNJIM]

WILHEIM I WOULDNT ADMIT TO LIKING A LOW LIFE RAT BASTARD LIKE LENNY.I AM GLAD TO SEE HIS REPUTATION RUINED IF YOU HAD DONE THE RIGHT THING WHEN HE ROBBED ME ALL THE OTHER PLAYERS WOULD HAVE GOTTEN PAID OR MOVED OUT OF CASCADE SPORTSBOOK WHEN THEY REALIZED HE WAS A THIEF.LENNY IS GETTING WHAT HE DESERVES AND SO ARE THE PLAYERS STILL SENDING THIS PIECE OF SHIT MONEY THEY WILL GET WHAT THEY DESERVE NOTHING.HOW CAN PEOPLE BE SO STUPID AND STILL SEND MONEY TO CASCADE SPORTSBOOK AND LENNY WHEN THEY KNOW HIS REPUTATION.

 

[BEANTOWNJIM]

WRONG WAVVY ALL I EVER WANTED WAS THE BET TO BE VOIDED AND I GET MY 660 DOLLARS BACK.THIS BET NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN GRADED CASCADE SPORTSBOOK BROKE THERE OWN WRITTEN RULES AND STOLE MY MONEY CAN YOU READ THIS RULE.

(ALL WAGERS WILL BE ACCEPTED UP UNTIL THE POSTED STARTING TIME OF THE EVENT) THIS SAYS IT ALL BOYS READ THE RULE

 

[NES]

Thoughts going on in BTJ's head (oxymoron) while placing that bet:

OMG I've got the perfect plan! This game should be off the board. This is what I'll do: I'll make the bet, If I win I will collect and brag to my eunich friends at the club. If I lose I will claim that they have a rule. Not a simple rule, but a written rule no less!! It's a win/win situation, I'm a genius!!

Blam! blew up in your face.

"Taking a shot" is the term, after you have worked in the business as long as I have you will have no tolerence nor patience for scumbags who pull this kind of shit either. Its on the list with taking advantage of a naive clerk who accidently gave you a college hoops line instead of a College Football line, you are a piece of shit BTJ and very few people here will sympathize with this situation. Had you won you probably would have been paid, and you definately would be singing a different tune about Cascade right now(even if they are stiffs).

 

[wavvy1]

WRONG WAVVY ALL I EVER WANTED WAS THE BET TO BE VOIDED AND I GET MY 660 DOLLARS BACK.THIS BET NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN GRADED CASCADE SPORTSBOOK BROKE THERE OWN WRITTEN RULES AND STOLE MY MONEY CAN YOU READ THIS RULE.

(ALL WAGERS WILL BE ACCEPTED UP UNTIL THE POSTED STARTING TIME OF THE EVENT) THIS SAYS IT ALL BOYS READ THE RULE

Yawn.....somebody get me a gun.

 

[wavvy1]

"Taking a shot" is the term, after you have worked in the business as long as I have you will have no tolerence nor patience for scumbags who pull this kind of shit either. Its on the list with taking advantage of a naive clerk who accidently gave you a college hoops line instead of a College Football line, you are a piece of shit BTJ and very few people here will sympathize with this situation. Had you won you probably would have been paid, and you definately would be singing a different tune about Cascade right now(even if they are stiffs).

Well said and so true. It's funny, he probably thought he was the first person in the world to come up with this scam.

 

[NES]

Well said and so true. It's funny, he probably thought he was the first person in the world to come up with this scam.

As long as there are guys like BTJ we will still get to use our favorite speech for situations such as these: "if it had went the other way would be even having this conversation sir?"

 

[RupertPupkin]

VIEJO IT WAS 15 MINUTES AFTER AN EVENT LENNY EVEN KNEW THE SCORE WHEN THE WAGER WAS ACCEPTED 16-14 WITH 5.41 LEFT IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF A BASKETBALL GAME.THATS MORE THAN HALF THE QUARTER WOULD YOU STILL TAKE A WAGER VIEJO.

F-CK YOUR RIGHT ITS OVER I JUST WANT THE FORUM TO REALIZE WHAT HAPPENED TO ME AND ALL THE FORUMS RAN SCARED BECAUSE AT THE TIME LENNY WAS THE HOT SPORTSBOOK AND THEY DIDNT WANT TO LOSE HIS ADVERTISING DOLLARS.I GOT F-CKED FOR ADVERTISING DOLLARS THATS THE BOTTOM LINE AND I WAS NEVER GIVEN AN APOLOGY.:finger:

Did you bet the side or the total , because at 16-14 with 5.41 left in the 1st quarter .... and your betting the side ... who gives a shit ( it might as well be 2-0 ) But if your betting an over or an under it could be a big edge.

Im sure you mentioned this before , but I dont have time or patience to dig through your abortion of thread to find that info. Thanks in advance.

 

[NES]

Did you bet the side or the total , because at 16-14 with 5.41 left in the 1st quarter .... and your betting the side ... who gives a shit ( it might as well be 2-0 ) But if your betting an over or an under it could be a big edge.

Im sure you mentioned this before , but I dont have time or patience to dig through your abortion of thread to find that info. Thanks in advance.

For those of you who don't know, RupertP is actually Lenny from Cascade.

 

[Timetopay]

For those of you who don't know, RupertP is actually Lenny from Cascade.

R U serious?

 

[NES]

R U serious?

nope

 

[wilheim]

WILHEIM I WOULDNT ADMIT TO LIKING A LOW LIFE RAT BASTARD LIKE LENNY.I AM GLAD TO SEE HIS REPUTATION RUINED IF YOU HAD DONE THE RIGHT THING WHEN HE ROBBED ME ALL THE OTHER PLAYERS WOULD HAVE GOTTEN PAID OR MOVED OUT OF CASCADE SPORTSBOOK WHEN THEY REALIZED HE WAS A THIEF.

How many times do I have to say it - I was not even a moderator at this site back then. I couldn't have helped you if I wanted to. That said I certainly would have heard both sides of the story and done what I could have to see that the right thing was done. Which as it turned out happened without me.

Just the fact that you are still crying about this in the year 2008 (even after you were paid and actually praised Cascade yourself to no end at the time) simply boggles the mind by the huge amount of hypocrisy involved.


wil..:hitting:

 

[Doug]

WILHEIM I WOULDNT ADMIT TO LIKING A LOW LIFE RAT BASTARD LIKE LENNY.I AM GLAD TO SEE HIS REPUTATION RUINED IF YOU HAD DONE THE RIGHT THING WHEN HE ROBBED ME ALL THE OTHER PLAYERS WOULD HAVE GOTTEN PAID OR MOVED OUT OF CASCADE SPORTSBOOK WHEN THEY REALIZED HE WAS A THIEF.LENNY IS GETTING WHAT HE DESERVES AND SO ARE THE PLAYERS STILL SENDING THIS PIECE OF SHIT MONEY THEY WILL GET WHAT THEY DESERVE NOTHING.HOW CAN PEOPLE BE SO STUPID AND STILL SEND MONEY TO CASCADE SPORTSBOOK AND LENNY WHEN THEY KNOW HIS REPUTATION.

Since Cascade used to be good, and problems started about April 2007, I'm guessing some old customers will re-up to bet the Superbowl, not knowing what has occurred since. I feel sorry for these bettors !

I'd expect they close shop by March.