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This OP idiot calling a failure and he`s not even in office yet.

Blow up this fucking thread.

Burn this bitch.
 

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There are a whole group of reputable scientists who also agree that global warming is unproven. Are they not to be believed?

I am denying that it is a fact as it has not been incontrovertibly proven, has nothing to do with benefit has to do with facts.
I have done a lot of research on this. Gaia effect? Really? You are going there, lol... So you are saying Lovelock and his reseach is bull then?
You know who used or uses Lovelock as his guru? Al Gore guess he has no clue what he is talking about?

Are you denying that NASA has not changed numbers to fit the presidents agenda?
Are you denying that scientists who say their is global warming have not skewed data also to try and prove it?
Are you denying that academic scientists have an agenda to prove things true or not so they can keep getting funding?


T Hawk- anyone can skew numbers to justify their jobs or positions and I don't doubt that occurs within this industry as well. You are welcome to believe the "whole group" of scientists and I will continue to trust the vast majority from around the world. Time will tell who is right I guess.

Again- I care about the world's environment and the effects that man has made and Myron Ebell is a horrible choice to head that department.
 

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Because Trump worries me a hell of a lot more than Obama.

Because he is not on the left? Because he said pussy?
 

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So, why no Obama thread? You were here back then, and Obama said a lot of the same things about getting rid of lobbyists and cleaning up Washington. And thats what this thread is about.

Because Trump worries me a hell of a lot more than Obama.
 

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T Hawk- anyone can skew numbers to justify their jobs or positions and I don't doubt that occurs within this industry as well. You are welcome to believe the "whole group" of scientists and I will continue to trust the vast majority from around the world. Time will tell who is right I guess.

Again- I care about the world's environment and the effects that man has made and Myron Ebell is a horrible choice to head that department.

You are a phony... Plain and simple...

I present things you are uncomfortable talking about so you conveniently avoid them....

I was expecting some type of debate but as usual with liberal, progressive, elite there is none...

Dude you are a fraud!!! as was said earlier where are the Obama threads questioning his agenda and change?
 

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Because Trump worries me a hell of a lot more than Obama.

Because he is not on the left? Because he said pussy?
 

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You are a phony... Plain and simple...

I present things you are uncomfortable talking about so you conveniently avoid them....

I was expecting some type of debate but as usual with liberal, progressive, elite there is none...

Dude you are a fraud!!! as was said earlier where are the Obama threads questioning his agenda and change?


[h=2]Simple Definition of fraud:[/h]
  • : a person who pretends to be what he or she is not in order to trick people

  • : a copy of something that is meant to look like the real thing in order to trick people



T Hawk- never tried to trick anyone. I clearly stated that I agree with the vast majority of scientists from around the world on the subject and that Myron Ebell is a horrific choice to head that agency.

No need to debate with you as nothing I could say or present will change your mind. That's OK- you are entitled to your opinion. No need to get belligerent.
 

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[h=2]Simple Definition of fraud:[/h]
  • : a person who pretends to be what he or she is not in order to trick people

  • : a copy of something that is meant to look like the real thing in order to trick people



T Hawk- never tried to trick anyone. I clearly stated that I agree with the vast majority of scientists from around the world on the subject and that Myron Ebell is a horrific choice to head that agency.

No need to debate with you as nothing I could say or present will change your mind. That's OK- you are entitled to your opinion. No need to get belligerent.

Not an opinion, it is a fact! You presented no facts that prove anything... nothing at all...

Not belligerent at all. You are a fraud and you can post as many cute definitions as you want to deflect as much as you want...
Everyone who is semi intelligent can see right through you...

The earth has been heating and cooling on it's own since the start of time. We had nothing to do with it, can you explain to me how that has happened?

The earth goes through heating and cooling cycles can you explain to me how that happens and why?

Much easier to just take your ball and go home than to actually talk facts and points...
 

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Because he is not on the left? Because he said pussy?

Because of the many ignorant things he has stated over the past year and a half along with whom he is proposing to serve in his cabinet.
 

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Not an opinion, it is a fact! You presented no facts that prove anything... nothing at all...

Not belligerent at all. You are a fraud and you can post as many cute definitions as you want to deflect as much as you want...
Everyone who is semi intelligent can see right through you...

The earth has been heating and cooling on it's own since the start of time. We had nothing to do with it, can you explain to me how that has happened?

The earth goes through heating and cooling cycles can you explain to me how that happens and why?

Much easier to just take your ball and go home than to actually talk facts and points...



So I want to be clear that you are saying that the global increases in carbon dioxide concentration due primarily to fossil fuel use and land-use change along with methane and nitrous oxide from agriculture have had no effect on the worlds climate over the last 100 plus years?
 

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So I want to be clear that you are saying that the global increases in carbon dioxide concentration due primarily to fossil fuel use and land-use change along with methane and nitrous oxide from agriculture have had no effect on the worlds climate over the last 100 plus years?


What "increases" are we taking about? CO2 most recently measured at around 0.039% of the atmosphere.

How low would you like to go? It can't be zero since plant life would begin to die without it. So what's the magic number, and how did you arrive at that conclusion?

I can shatter the entire climate change illusion with about three questions you won't be able to answer. But let's start with those above, please.
 

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What "increases" are we taking about? CO2 most recently measured at around 0.039% of the atmosphere.

How low would you like to go? It can't be zero since plant life would begin to die without it. So what's the magic number, and how did you arrive at that conclusion?

I can shatter the entire climate change illusion with about three questions you won't be able to answer. But let's start with those above, please.


Not sure what the magic number is, just know that recorded amounts have doubled since we started to rapidly burn fossil fuel.

Concentrations of carbon dioxide (CO[SUB]2[/SUB]) extracted from ice cores drilled in Greenland and Antarctica have typically ranged from near 190 parts per million by volume (ppmv) during the ice ages to near 280 ppmv during the warmer “interglacial” periods like the present one that began around 10,000 years ago. Concentrations did not rise much above 280 ppmv until the Industrial Revolution. By 1958, when systematic atmospheric measurements began, they had reached 315 ppmv, and they are currently ~370 ppmv and rising at a rate of 1.5 ppmv per year (slightly higher than the rate during the early years of the 43-year record). The primary source, fossil fuel burning, has released roughly twice as much carbon dioxide as would be required to account for the observed increase. Tropical deforestation also has contributed to carbon dioxide releases during the past few decades. The excess carbon dioxide has been taken up by the oceans and land biosphere.
 

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Not sure what the magic number is, just know that recorded amounts have doubled since we started to rapidly burn fossil fuel.

Concentrations of carbon dioxide (CO[SUB]2[/SUB]) extracted from ice cores drilled in Greenland and Antarctica have typically ranged from near 190 parts per million by volume (ppmv) during the ice ages to near 280 ppmv during the warmer “interglacial” periods like the present one that began around 10,000 years ago. Concentrations did not rise much above 280 ppmv until the Industrial Revolution. By 1958, when systematic atmospheric measurements began, they had reached 315 ppmv, and they are currently ~370 ppmv and rising at a rate of 1.5 ppmv per year (slightly higher than the rate during the early years of the 43-year record). The primary source, fossil fuel burning, has released roughly twice as much carbon dioxide as would be required to account for the observed increase. Tropical deforestation also has contributed to carbon dioxide releases during the past few decades. The excess carbon dioxide has been taken up by the oceans and land biosphere.

1. If you don't know what the right number is, then how can you know what is too high of a CO2 level? Again, 0.039% at last look. You really can't go much lower than that.

2. So I've heard about the oceans. What I haven't heard though would be an explanation for why oceans are cooling instead of warming if they are absorbing all the additional CO2?
 

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1. If you don't know what the right number is, then how can you know what is too high of a CO2 level? Again, 0.039% at last look. You really can't go much lower than that.

2. So I've heard about the oceans. What I haven't heard though would be an explanation for why oceans are cooling instead of warming if they are absorbing all the additional CO2?

JDeuce take over for a while. I doubt if he will actually answer any question you pose.
I presented many facts that he just over looked. Just keeps spouting the main stream bull over and over.


I'll be watching this with some popcorn-eatinggif
 

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Because of the many ignorant things he has stated over the past year and a half along with whom he is proposing to serve in his cabinet.

cause he said pussy, and has 3 people you dont like in his cabinet.

Where was the Obama outrage in 2008 when he starting appointing people?
 

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It isn't hard. This is really simple. Here is the primary question I've asked on here before, and no dimocrap can answer them:

- How long has the earth been here? 5 billion years, give or take?

- How long have humans inhabited the planet? The poster formerly known as Guesser once said 200,000 years...which I think is probably too optimistic, but let's give him the benefit of the doubt.

- How long have we kept accurate temperature records... maybe 100 years? You're telling me we can draw some kind of conclusions of 100 years worth of data out of 5 billion? Really? That's like suggesting one pitch can offer you some insight on the entire history of MLB as a sport.

We haven't been around long enough to know what constitutes "normal" weather and what doesn't. You also have to be one of the biggest morons ever born to believe some government agency will have the ability to change climate to their desired outcome.

In a couple decades, global warming will be laughed at as some giant thinly veiled scam in an attempt to grab money + power. I've already started my own laughing at the lions who believe in this bullshit.

Dont forget the Global Cooling... then Global Warming... and now Climate Change lol.

They have yet to prove any of those
 

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JDeuce take over for a while. I doubt if he will actually answer any question you pose.
I presented many facts that he just over looked. Just keeps spouting the main stream bull over and over.


I'll be watching this with some popcorn-eatinggif


It isn't hard. This is really simple. Here is the primary question I've asked on here before, and no dimocrap can answer them:

- How long has the earth been here? 5 billion years, give or take?

- How long have humans inhabited the planet? The poster formerly known as Guesser once said 200,000 years...which I think is probably too optimistic, but let's give him the benefit of the doubt.

- How long have we kept accurate temperature records... maybe 100 years? You're telling me we can draw some kind of conclusions of 100 years worth of data out of 5 billion? Really? That's like suggesting one pitch can offer you some insight on the entire history of MLB as a sport.

We haven't been around long enough to know what constitutes "normal" weather and what doesn't. You also have to be one of the biggest morons ever born to believe some government agency will have the ability to change climate to their desired outcome.

In a couple decades, global warming will be laughed at as some giant thinly veiled scam in an attempt to grab money + power. I've already started my own laughing at the lions who believe in this bullshit.
 

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It isn't hard. This is really simple. Here is the primary question I've asked on here before, and no dimocrap can answer them:

- How long has the earth been here? 5 billion years, give or take?

- How long have humans inhabited the planet? The poster formerly known as Guesser once said 200,000 years...which I think is probably too optimistic, but let's give him the benefit of the doubt.

- How long have we kept accurate temperature records... maybe 100 years? You're telling me we can draw some kind of conclusions of 100 years worth of data out of 5 billion? Really? That's like suggesting one pitch can offer you some insight on the entire history of MLB as a sport.

We haven't been around long enough to know what constitutes "normal" weather and what doesn't. You also have to be one of the biggest morons ever born to believe some government agency will have the ability to change climate to their desired outcome.

In a couple decades, global warming will be laughed at as some giant thinly veiled scam in an attempt to grab money + power. I've already started my own laughing at the lions who believe in this bullshit.

Dont forget the Global Cooling... then Global Warming... and now Climate Change lol.

They have yet to prove any of those
 

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Dont forget the Global Cooling... then Global Warming... and now Climate Change lol.

They have yet to prove any of those


Yep.

First, everyone was supposed to worry about the big freeze in the 70s. Then we had to prepare for global warming. Al Gore predicted the entire population of the earth would have evaporated several times by now, or some such shit. If only he had left the rest of us alone...

Now, it's called climate change...as in any variation in temperature should be cause for major concern. Again, much like the appropriate CO2 levels...dimocraps will never tell you what that optimal earth temperature should be.

There already a term normal people use to describe "climate change"...it's called weather. And to think some fucking bureaucrats in Washington DC or Brussels or Paris can sit in an office and press e buttons to ensure the earth is 75 and sunny every day of the year is beyond laughable.

Not it to mention, the biggest coincidence of them all...the proposed solutions to climate change by dimocraps are strangely the same dumb ass social justice talking points they've babbled for decades. Hmmm...
 

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To me this subject is ridiculous.

Aside from cow farts and belching, 7 billion people on this earth exhale several pounds of C02 each day.
If the name of the game is to cut down on greenhouse gasses, maybe we should all just stop breathing.
 

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