The Big-10 is single-handedly ruining college football for everyone.

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Id love to know why the same couldn't be said for the pathetic-10. How is it any different??? USC plays high school teams all yr and even if they did have a Pac-10 championship game it would be against a garbage team. Texas has had to go thru hell and inevitably lost as will Alabama at some point


At least USC is a formidable opponent to the Big 12/SEC. The Big 10 has proven they don't have anyone that can compete in a national title game.
 

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At least USC is a formidable opponent to the Big 12/SEC. The Big 10 has proven they don't have anyone that can compete in a national title game.

Again, the last 2 years do not represent the future, nor do they erase the past. It's all cyclical. Some years, conferences are up. Other eyars they are doiwn.
 

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hippie - you have it backwards. the other bcs conferences added a conference championship game solely for money. they are the greedy ones who allow their teams to play themselves out of the national title games.
 

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At least USC is a formidable opponent to the Big 12/SEC. The Big 10 has proven they don't have anyone that can compete in a national title game.

remind me how usc did against oregon state. the same team that penn state demolished. sure the big 10's top half is weak this yr. but no worse than the PAC 10. washington, washinton state, and arizona state?
 

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hippie - you have it backwards. the other bcs conferences added a conference championship game solely for money. they are the greedy ones who allow their teams to play themselves out of the national title games.

The spin from all the Big-10 homers here is unreal but this takes the cake. Yours is the conference who REFUSES to do ANY of the 5 following things:

1. Add a 12th team.
2. Drop one to make an even 10.
3. Play a CCG.
4. Make a revolving 9 game conference schedule so you only play 3 OOC games.
5. Vote for a playoff or +1 system.

Instead, you INSIST on having 4 OOC games, 3 of which you DEMAND must take place at home, all the while hiding behind the excuse of currently having an odd number of teams within your own conference which makes playing more conference games "impossible". Bull shit.

Your conference is a total fraud and has been the biggest beneficiary from the current BCS arrangement. It's no wonder why your greedy commissioners continue to do nothing about improving the college game for the rest of us.
 

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remind me how usc did against oregon state. the same team that penn state demolished. sure the big 10's top half is weak this yr. but no worse than the PAC 10. washington, washinton state, and arizona state?

That's a sorry excuse for what you KNOW USC would do to any B-10 team, probably the rest of them too. Some cycles take forever to come back around -- so let the B-10 prove itself... and the BCS shouldn't be so generous with them until they do.
 

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remind me how usc did against oregon state. the same team that penn state demolished. sure the big 10's top half is weak this yr. but no worse than the PAC 10. washington, washinton state, and arizona state?


Oregon State was overwhelmed going into Happy Valley. Do you really believe the results would be the same if they played again?


OSU played a great game that night against USC. I don't know if you've seen Jacquizz Rodgers, but the kid can flat out play. I don't know why everyone is acting like Oregon State is Stanford of last year or something.
 

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No matter what the only viable answer is a playoff, not only will it determine the best team on the field but if their was a playoff system teams wouldn't be as scared to lose a game and therefore we should get some better non-confrence games. I love the way hoops has the ACC Big 10 challenge, I wish football would do something similar. IMHO the NCAA should have some control of the schedules. Penn St. vs Coastal Carolina is insane if you ask me.
 

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Looks like hippie is just going to gloss over some of the better points raised here, and instead just spout his rhetoric. Good luck!
 

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The spin from all the Big-10 homers here is unreal but this takes the cake. Yours is the conference who REFUSES to do ANY of the 5 following things:

1. Add a 12th team.
2. Drop one to make an even 10.
3. Play a CCG.
4. Make a revolving 9 game conference schedule so you only play 3 OOC games.
5. Vote for a playoff or +1 system.

Instead, you INSIST on having 4 OOC games, 3 of which you DEMAND must take place at home, all the while hiding behind the excuse of currently having an odd number of teams within your own conference which makes playing more conference games "impossible". Bull shit.

Your conference is a total fraud and has been the biggest beneficiary from the current BCS arrangement. It's no wonder why your greedy commissioners continue to do nothing about improving the college game for the rest of us.

Are you really this retarted? Anyone who passed 11th grade math can tell you 11 CANNOT play 9 other of those entities without having at least one repeat game. IT CANNOT HAPPEN MATHEMATICALLY, try to produce a schedule showing how it can...I'll save you your time...IT CANNOT HAPPEN
 

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Wow, the backlash here is unbelievable. Has everyone suddenly forgot the annual disaster of a NC game that we have to sit through?

What's the common element in play here? I'll give you a hint... it begins with Big and it ends in 10.

Their conference structure is an absolute joke where every single teams feasts on 4 pathetic OOC opponents, 3 of which are at home. They then have an arbitrary conference schedule where traditonal top programs like OSU, UM, and PSU somehow avoid playing the others.

And what gives us the biggest clue that this conference knows exactly what it's doing? Well, it's own commissioners annually vote against any kind of BCS playoff or +1 system, totally ignoring the pleads of all fans. You'd have to be a simpleton to not understand why the Big-10 wouldn't want any part of such system. It's called ca$h and the Big-10 wants all of it.

I guess we'll just have to sit through another undeserving, overrated Big-10 team in the NC game and another in the Rose Bowl who will both get their lunch handed to them. Oh well, just another year of college football down the toilet where the top deserving teams never face off.

The Big Ten participated in the BCS title games after the '98, '99, '01 and '04 seasons right? I'm pretty sure those were all REALLY close title games if I remember correctly, please let me know if I'm wrong.
 

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Wow, the backlash here is unbelievable. Has everyone suddenly forgot the annual disaster of a NC game that we have to sit through?

What's the common element in play here? I'll give you a hint... it begins with Big and it ends in 10.

Their conference structure is an absolute joke where every single teams feasts on 4 pathetic OOC opponents, 3 of which are at home. They then have an arbitrary conference schedule where traditonal top programs like OSU, UM, and PSU somehow avoid playing the others.

And what gives us the biggest clue that this conference knows exactly what it's doing? Well, it's own commissioners annually vote against any kind of BCS playoff or +1 system, totally ignoring the pleads of all fans. You'd have to be a simpleton to not understand why the Big-10 wouldn't want any part of such system. It's called ca$h and the Big-10 wants all of it.

I guess we'll just have to sit through another undeserving, overrated Big-10 team in the NC game and another in the Rose Bowl who will both get their lunch handed to them. Oh well, just another year of college football down the toilet where the top deserving teams never face off.
yea i know we suck this year but michigan usaually hammers those sec teams like last year they had a bad year for mich and they still beat a always over rated florida teams bullets fly both ways the teams in the big ten are not no more over rated then any other teams on any given year. i can name 10 teams that meet your overated criteria this year. the big ten is a money conference .
 

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The Big 10 shouldn't have to change anything. It's the NCAA that needs to get a playoff, and the blood is on their hands.

I like the playoff idea myself.
The million dollar question is, what would the playoff format be?
If you make it the top 8 teams, the obvious format would be seed the top eight teams 1-8.
Three weeks would be needed to execute an eight team playoff.

Third week in December:
#1 seed plays #8 seed
#2 seed plays #7 seed
#3 seed plays #6 seed
#4 seed plays #5 seed

Fourth week in December:
#1 #8 game winner v. #4 #5 game winner
#2 #7 game winner v. #3 #6 game winner

First week in January
NCS game pitting the last two teams standing.

This works for me, but what needs to be determined is who or what determines the top eight teams that participate in said playoffs.

This is still not a perfect idea, because I'm going to have to listen to the ninth ranked team bitch for a month or two on how they got screwed...........
 

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WHILE THE POINT YOU MAKE HAS VALIDITY.ALMOST ANY BIG TEN TEAM THAT GOES UNDEFEATED HAS A GREAT CHANCE TO BE IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME .

BUT YOUR LACK OF OBJECTIVITY AND UNINTELLIGENT COMMENTS

Their conference structure is an absolute joke where every single teams feasts on 4 pathetic OOC opponents, 3 of which are at home. They then have an arbitrary conference schedule where traditonal top programs like OSU, UM, and PSU somehow avoid playing the others

MAKE PEOPLE LIKE ME TUNE YOU OUT..

PENN ST HAS PLAYED BOTH THOSE TEAMS AND ALSO PLAYED ILL, WISC(2 OTHER TEAMS THAT WERE RATED HIGH IN THE PRESEASON)I BELIEVE THEY PLAY MICH AND OSU EVERY YR..I KNOW OSU PLAYS MICH EVERY YR IN THE LAST GAME OF THE SEASON..

PERHAPS IF YOU STOP TALKING BLINDLY AND TOSSING OUT A BUNCH OF SHIT LIKE THE ABOVE...PEOPLE WILL TAKE YOUR VALID POINTS SERIOUSLY
 

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remember when big 10's Penn State dumped on the Pac 10's Oregon State??... yet u sit there and cry about how they play weak non conference schedules....im almost positive the 80% of the first three weeks of the season is blow outs by teams in BCS conferences over crap teams... then Oregon State beats USC like 2 weeks later... there is nothing you can do to change it.... Penn State is ranked where they should be and why are you so anti big ten??...by the way i think penn state would beat Bama anyway
 

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The spin from all the Big-10 homers here is unreal but this takes the cake. Yours is the conference who REFUSES to do ANY of the 5 following things:

1. Add a 12th team.
2. Drop one to make an even 10.
3. Play a CCG.
4. Make a revolving 9 game conference schedule so you only play 3 OOC games.
5. Vote for a playoff or +1 system.

Lets strighten a couple of the halth truths here. Do 5 minutes of research and you'll see that the big 10 tried to add Notre Dame as its 12th team in 1999. While Notre Dame faculty senate voted yes, the Notre Dame board of trusties decided against joining the big 10. And Big 10 bylaws state that any expansion has to be with a school in big 10 country. So they can't just go out and add any school. It would have to be schools like ND, Rutgers, Syracuse, Iowa State, W. Vir, or Pitt. And lets be honest, if any of those schools besides Notre Dame where to join than you would just say they added another easy win to the schedule.

As far as your idea that the big 10 is what stands in the way of a 4 team playoff, I got news for you. earlier this year when the conference commisoners met the only ones that supported the idea of the +1 were the SEC and the ACC commish. The other 4, (Pac 10, Big 10, Big East, and Big 12) did not. So don't say its the big 10's fault. In fact you were outvoted 4-2.

And by the way I'm still waiting for an answer to the question I've previously posted two times now.
 

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The conference that does it right is the Pac-10. no playoff, full round-robin schedule. Just because the SEC, ACC, and Big 12 expand their conference, why should any of the others? Those conferences went for the money, and should take the risk of making the title game.
 

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Is this guy still bawling around?!? LOL.. Pathetic.
 

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*bump*

Thank God the pathetic Big-10 conference isn't going to ruin yet another National Championship game this year.

The Big-10 is consistenly the 2nd worst BCS conference year after year after year.

They wouldn' even have a BCS team if it weren't for their fraudulent scheduling with 4 OOC games (3 of which are at home) and 8 arbitrary conference games where the top teams usually avoid one another.

Big-10 = biggest fraud of a BCS conference and they should be kicked-out of the BCS entirely.

Pathetic.
 

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it is a true travesty that they're represented in two bcs bowl games. doesnt matter who they send to the games, inevitable loss
 

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