If you were comparing apples to apples, in other words, adjusting the Pac-10's OOC record and adding back 5 losses that it automatically gets over everyone else because of the extra conference game it plays, you'd have to add at LEAST 20 wins every year to the Pac-10's record and subtract 20 losses.
They could have scheduled cupcakes instead of top ranked OOC opponents and done better than an even split at the very least. Multiply that by 10 teams and 20 is not an unreasonable number (considering the 5 extra conference schedule losses.) Someone should tell the BCS computers about this discrepancy and poll voters should also get a clue. This kind of breakdown tells a very interesting story. Let every one of them read it and try to explain it to each other.
I mean, really, how many people here think the Big-10 deserved all those "double BCS" invites with the strength it has had compared to the kind of eligible 2nd teams that have emerged most every year in the Pac-10, especially this decade?
Tom Hanson could have sued the BCS on behalf of the schools that were done out of all that revenue because of its lack of minimal OOC standards for contenders (or lack of compensation for same) and a Pac-10 conference schedule that directly accounted for additional losses, lack of poll recognition and respect.
Most recently, ASU doing the Holiday Bowl in '07 instead of the Fiesta Bowl or maybe Sugar Bowl. Arguably they were not the best "2nd best" team to represent the conference this decade, but a 3-loss Illinois team got into the Rose Bowl vs USC which made for a hell of a game. It also cost 10 schools a lot of money (again and again.)
Now they are stuck for cash -- idiots.
They could have scheduled cupcakes instead of top ranked OOC opponents and done better than an even split at the very least. Multiply that by 10 teams and 20 is not an unreasonable number (considering the 5 extra conference schedule losses.) Someone should tell the BCS computers about this discrepancy and poll voters should also get a clue. This kind of breakdown tells a very interesting story. Let every one of them read it and try to explain it to each other.
I mean, really, how many people here think the Big-10 deserved all those "double BCS" invites with the strength it has had compared to the kind of eligible 2nd teams that have emerged most every year in the Pac-10, especially this decade?
Tom Hanson could have sued the BCS on behalf of the schools that were done out of all that revenue because of its lack of minimal OOC standards for contenders (or lack of compensation for same) and a Pac-10 conference schedule that directly accounted for additional losses, lack of poll recognition and respect.
Most recently, ASU doing the Holiday Bowl in '07 instead of the Fiesta Bowl or maybe Sugar Bowl. Arguably they were not the best "2nd best" team to represent the conference this decade, but a 3-loss Illinois team got into the Rose Bowl vs USC which made for a hell of a game. It also cost 10 schools a lot of money (again and again.)
Now they are stuck for cash -- idiots.
Don't you just love the garbage those losers from Tennessee love to spew? I guess Tennessee really stinks, because they played UCLA last year and lost. Losing team breeds losing fans, and Tennessee has been a losing team for quite a while now. Some of their recent losses include UCLA, Cal, and Wyoming. They also had a narrow win against Northern Illinois. They have not won the SEC Championship in this century. Their bowl record since 1999 is 3-5. Yes, Tennessee fans have a lot to be proud of, if you like being a middle-of-the-roader in the SEC and 1-2 against the Pac 10 in the past 3 years. Next thing they will be telling us is how Lane Kiffin is the next coming of Phillip Fulmer, and how Tennessee will win the SEC this year.
You can clearly see that CP doesn't get it. I am 100% sure that he had his ready reference page handy when he made that list of schools. He doesn't know squat about shit, not even the teams that make up the Pac-10. I'm sure he even had to double check how "Orgeron" (check that...) "Oregon" is spelled too. They got some pretty dumb ones in "Old Hickoryville."
Notice in their desperation how they hire coaches from the West Coast when they want to win their own conference? Urban Meyer, now Kiffy. Who's next?
boo Conan , i didnt insult your duck butty - you usually dont get angry till you have to defend his honor
btw- i know your a fan of both the oak ridge national lab and lane kiffin , did you see the article where he spoke to them this week ? he took a subtle jab at meyer.
i bet ducks can mail you the article - he spends more time readign about the Vols than anyone i know
btw- i know your a fan of both the oak ridge national lab and lane kiffin , did you see the article where he spoke to them this week ? he took a subtle jab at meyer.
i bet ducks can mail you the article - he spends more time readign about the Vols than anyone i know
I love your fetish with Texas. Those are a bunch of could-be's, but they are indeed could-be's. I personally think OU will lose 4 games with the rebuilding they'll be going through on the O-line, and that's not just because I'm a Longhorn. OU could also pull a Texas a la last year and find itself on the verge of a MNC. We shall see. August 1st can't get here soon enough.
I think Texas wins it all this year if Brown can stop his whining long enough to get his team ready for the two games against the Oklahoma schools. I also think that anyone who thinks that OU can lose 4 games is a HUGE Texas homer. People, when you make statements like that, back them up. Which 4 games will OU be in danger of losing?
BYU
@ Miami
Texas
@ Nebraska
@ Texas Tech
Oklahoma State
That doesn't include @ Kansas. There's AT LEAST 4 losses above. Anyone that thinks a brand new O-line will gel quickly has not watched enough football.....at any level. It's as simple as that. Call me a homer, or call me an ex football player and coach that's watched and been in football for 36 years. All the statements that have been made in this forum in the offseason by the OU backers is a lot of hope. Just wait until Bradford hast to actually escape from the pocket with those cement shoes he wears. It's going to be a long season for OU. And those don't come around too often in Norman I'll be the 1st to admit. It's shaping up to look A LOT like 2005.
Funny thing about FIU being on Rutgers' schedule is this season they are probably as strong a team as half the Big East teams.
Nutt has a real shot with Ole Miss going 12-0 this year with their schedule. Hat tip for padding the schedule & record while rebuilding the Rebels' program.
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No, I don't think Tech will be as good as they were in 2008, but considering the embarassing ass-whipping that OU gave them last year on national TV, I think, will come into play. This game is towards the back end of the schedule, so Tech will have more time to gel with Potts, but that also helps OU gel with the O-line. Same with OSU. You don't think they're talking about that ass-whipping that OU gave OSU last year in every single off-season weight lifting and 7 on 7 session? Those things come into play in college...bigtime.
Look, I'll be the 1st to admit that if somehow the O-line for OU comes together quickly, they'll be lethal. It's just that the O-line is one group that MUST have game repetition and certain circumstances, game induced, before they can gel and become one. We shall see. As seen from TEXAS this last season, the most dangerous team is the team that goes under the radar. If I were an OU backer I'd be upset that OU is supposed to win 10 games still. If this is the truth, I would bet my mortgage on that under. I don't know who would take the over on that # considering the uncertainty of such a team. Again, August 1st can't get here soon enough.
BTW, it's god darned hotter than a firecracker down here in Austin. 105 degrees today, and that's been the norm the last 14 days. Get those boys in shape for Louisiana Monroe (eyes rolling)!!!!!
I am not high on Oklahoma this year either. I am of the belief that the O-Line is the most important part of your team. An inexperienced line will not lead to a national title. How vital can even missing one of your key O-linemen be? Look at the Sugar Bowl & watch how missing their anchor led to Alabama being beat by a vastly inferior team.
The best Oklahoma could hope for is the quality of these guys behind their departing guys be good & that they gel quickly.
The best Oklahoma could hope for is the quality of these guys behind their departing guys be good & that they gel quickly.
I wouldn't doubt Mike Leach's ability to find a QB.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/11070145
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/11070145
