Willie I teach political science. Your math and science is way off on this believe me. No hostility here. I don't want to keep arguing about the same thing and continue to write paragraphs explaining things. I suppose it doesn't matter because life goes on. Whoever is in power. Life simply goes on and for me personally life is great. Whoever is in power, it doesn't affect me much.
Wish you all the best.
Wish you all the best.
Were Ted Williams and Barry Sanders the reasons their teams always lost? When Obama is in the game (on the ballot) his team wins. When he is on the sidelines (not on the ballot) his team gets crushed. He's the only reason the Democratic party has had any relevance over the past 15 years. If not for him the Democrats would have lost everything this entire century. Instead they were able to luck into one final run. He's the only reason that party is still alive
You guys need to learn to respect your country. Calling the President and his wife gorilla face or shit stain and so on. You guys are the shit stains. You are no better than the trashy extreme democrats that are protesting against Trump who won fair and square. You are idiots.
We'll make America again. The extremist right wing and lefty fanatics will fade into nothing.
We'll make America again. The extremist right wing and lefty fanatics will fade into nothing.
arty:
specifically, what democratic losses that I have cited didn't happen?
Senate? House? Governors? State Legislators?
I have said nearly 1,000 democrats have lost their seats at the federal and state levels since he came into office, you have said my math is wrong.
Being a political science teacher, what numbers are wrong? What have I said that's inaccurate? Not using spin, just math
TIA
Willie99, you seem to be somewhat intelligent compared to most of these jokers on this site that are trolling me and trying to paint me a ghost. Which I don't know why it is a big feat int heir lives that they think if they accomplish it, will give them some satisfaction. lol. Whatever rocks you vote I guess.
Willie99, you've made some very factual and very good points. If I were to explain in detail why the Republican party is in danger despite the win it would take me pages and pages.
I will try to summarize and avoid all the nitty gritty. Before I do, remember I am a Republican. I want the Rightys to consider these facts and stop boasting and acting like we won the war. FAR FROM IT! We beat a lame duck, doomed from the start Hilary. It was a battle won but a small one. We have to work very hard in the future because the Dems still have the upperhand and this is why:
The main reason is DEMOGRAPHICS. What we hear is that there is a clamp on immigration. However, statistics show that America is getting less and less white ever year. Not only is immigration steady but whites are having less and less kids or none at all while minorities have many more. There will always be immigration because unlike what the average racist thinks, it's needed! It's economics 101 but the average joe doesn't comprehend that simple fact. There was also a study done about how many LEGAL latinos are turning 18 coming up in the next election. The numbers would surprise you. DEMOGRAPHICS,minorities tend to vote Democrat and then you add in the white liberals,gays,lesbians,blacks,and the list goes on. It's only going to get tougher and tougher. Trump winning the election against a doomed from the start Hilary won't change demographics. Anybody who believes otherwise is delusional.
Next you brought up seats. Willie99, Republicans will lose ground there. There is a good chance. This election has nowhere near the high stakes that the next 2 do. 2020 is PIVOTAL! Are you going to argue that the Dems won't regroup and put forth a much more decent candidate and win the election and balance the house? This election is less significant than the next one. If we can win that that's when we should really be celebrating. Not now. Hilary was done from the start. I know many many Dems that couldn't bring themselves to vote for her. They will undeniably vote Democrat next time I assure you as well thousands more that are horrified by Trump winning.
What the extreme left likes to do is scare the undecided voter into thinking all rightys are racist rednecks that want American white, straight and cater to the rich and elite. That's just the average person's perception. Do you know how many clueless voters get swayed into voting one way by the left? They are seething right now. They are yelling at the top of their lungs about America is doomed, Trump is racist and so on. We saw a backlash this election but next election will be a backlash from the other side and it will be enormous believe me. We have our work cut out for us.
The numbers you provide are fine. But those numbers can and will be balanced out. The 2020 election is crucial.
People here will say I'm a lunatic when I saw the far right extremists do the Republicans a disservice and hurt our chances,almost as if they are lefties out there pretending to be far right, behaving like clueless uneducated racist rednecks to make the rightys looks bad. That's probably not the case though. It's just your average ueducated, born in the 50's white male thinking he knows what's best for America.
My break is over. It's very difficult to type from my phone and type coherently. I should be much more concise but I tend to post on this site on the go. We'll continue this later. I have some facts and figures for you.
All I say to the far right extremist weirdos is stop taking votes away from the Republicans! The media and youtube and hollywood and so on loves to crucify the republicans for the leftys and their agenda. You goofs give them ammunition. Any murder takes place. Many rights will comment about the tragic loss of life. Leftys will make it about the righty gun love affair causing violence. Blacks, Muslims, latinos they are all apart of America as much as you whether you accept it or not. Why alienate them and their votes by being hateful, low brow, and ignorant? Do you not understand today's demographics? Do you not see the future demographics? Are you in denial?
You want no refugees from Syria? FINE! I agree as do many of my friends that also vote Republican. You don't want blacks in the ghetto to continue getting hand outs and want them to work? FINE! I agree with all that. I want tougher on crime laws I want terrorism squashed out. But towel head this towel head that, Fucks Muslims, won't make them go away or accomplish anything but give the left ammo to use and paint all republicans as ignorant and racist as you are.
I've served! I've seen that Muslims are killed more than any other race by these terrorists. I don't care for you idiots complaining about Muslims. Tough cookies. I've done volunteer work in the projects! It's not as easy as, make them go to work! A social change is needed and they need help to do it. There are many challenges there and changes needed in the projects that you don't understand. I'm not happy with it because I'm old school. You go to school you go to work and if life is tough you don't resort to drugs you work harder. But we need to help them. They are weak. And we as America are only as strong as our weakest link.
I love this country and I want a safer, more prosperous country, a clean pollution free country. I also want this country less divided by race.
For the racists talkin about gorilla this shitstain that, well listen shitstain! Go to the projects and say those words instead of online your keyboard warriors lol. I guarantee you that you won't. Forget the projects, go up to any average black male and say that and see if you ever say it again. For the camel jockey and muslim haters, go serve overseas and fight the extremists instead of hating on hard working successful well mannered muslims here. (cue the posts with news clipping about a violent muslim and a comment about here's your average well mannered muslim lol, so predictable. How about posting 1000 times more posts about the hard working muslims that have built a small empire working their asses off in America? The doctors the engineers and so on. Nope. You won't do it.)
My coffee break is over. It's very difficult to type from my phone and type coherently. I should be much more concise but I tend to post on this site on the go. We'll continue this later. I have some facts and figures for you.
I wasted 6 minutes of my time typing this out. What a waste of my time. It will far on deaf ears.
As far as I'm concerned, the extreme righties work alongside the lefties. Thanks a lot. Losers.
Good day now. Let's not take all of this too seriously. Politics is politics and we don't need to get too worked up. lol. It's good to vent and get it out but let's not take anything to heart or get too hostile. No point raising your blood pressure over it. The key is to build your own little empire and be healthy and wealthy. The game of politics has been going on and will go on long after we pass. Enjoy life.
Willie99, you've made some very factual and very good points. If I were to explain in detail why the Republican party is in danger despite the win it would take me pages and pages.
I will try to summarize and avoid all the nitty gritty. Before I do, remember I am a Republican. I want the Rightys to consider these facts and stop boasting and acting like we won the war. FAR FROM IT! We beat a lame duck, doomed from the start Hilary. It was a battle won but a small one. We have to work very hard in the future because the Dems still have the upperhand and this is why:
The main reason is DEMOGRAPHICS. What we hear is that there is a clamp on immigration. However, statistics show that America is getting less and less white ever year. Not only is immigration steady but whites are having less and less kids or none at all while minorities have many more. There will always be immigration because unlike what the average racist thinks, it's needed! It's economics 101 but the average joe doesn't comprehend that simple fact. There was also a study done about how many LEGAL latinos are turning 18 coming up in the next election. The numbers would surprise you. DEMOGRAPHICS,minorities tend to vote Democrat and then you add in the white liberals,gays,lesbians,blacks,and the list goes on. It's only going to get tougher and tougher. Trump winning the election against a doomed from the start Hilary won't change demographics. Anybody who believes otherwise is delusional.
Next you brought up seats. Willie99, Republicans will lose ground there. There is a good chance. This election has nowhere near the high stakes that the next 2 do. 2020 is PIVOTAL! Are you going to argue that the Dems won't regroup and put forth a much more decent candidate and win the election and balance the house? This election is less significant than the next one. If we can win that that's when we should really be celebrating. Not now. Hilary was done from the start. I know many many Dems that couldn't bring themselves to vote for her. They will undeniably vote Democrat next time I assure you as well thousands more that are horrified by Trump winning.
What the extreme left likes to do is scare the undecided voter into thinking all rightys are racist rednecks that want American white, straight and cater to the rich and elite. That's just the average person's perception. Do you know how many clueless voters get swayed into voting one way by the left? They are seething right now. They are yelling at the top of their lungs about America is doomed, Trump is racist and so on. We saw a backlash this election but next election will be a backlash from the other side and it will be enormous believe me. We have our work cut out for us.
The numbers you provide are fine. But those numbers can and will be balanced out. The 2020 election is crucial.
People here will say I'm a lunatic when I saw the far right extremists do the Republicans a disservice and hurt our chances,almost as if they are lefties out there pretending to be far right, behaving like clueless uneducated racist rednecks to make the rightys looks bad. That's probably not the case though. It's just your average ueducated, born in the 50's white male thinking he knows what's best for America.
My break is over. It's very difficult to type from my phone and type coherently. I should be much more concise but I tend to post on this site on the go. We'll continue this later. I have some facts and figures for you.
All I say to the far right extremist weirdos is stop taking votes away from the Republicans! The media and youtube and hollywood and so on loves to crucify the republicans for the leftys and their agenda. You goofs give them ammunition. Any murder takes place. Many rights will comment about the tragic loss of life. Leftys will make it about the righty gun love affair causing violence. Blacks, Muslims, latinos they are all apart of America as much as you whether you accept it or not. Why alienate them and their votes by being hateful, low brow, and ignorant? Do you not understand today's demographics? Do you not see the future demographics? Are you in denial?
You want no refugees from Syria? FINE! I agree as do many of my friends that also vote Republican. You don't want blacks in the ghetto to continue getting hand outs and want them to work? FINE! I agree with all that. I want tougher on crime laws I want terrorism squashed out. But towel head this towel head that, Fucks Muslims, won't make them go away or accomplish anything but give the left ammo to use and paint all republicans as ignorant and racist as you are.
I've served! I've seen that Muslims are killed more than any other race by these terrorists. I don't care for you idiots complaining about Muslims. Tough cookies. I've done volunteer work in the projects! It's not as easy as, make them go to work! A social change is needed and they need help to do it. There are many challenges there and changes needed in the projects that you don't understand. I'm not happy with it because I'm old school. You go to school you go to work and if life is tough you don't resort to drugs you work harder. But we need to help them. They are weak. And we as America are only as strong as our weakest link.
I love this country and I want a safer, more prosperous country, a clean pollution free country. I also want this country less divided by race.
For the racists talkin about gorilla this shitstain that, well listen shitstain! Go to the projects and say those words instead of online your keyboard warriors lol. I guarantee you that you won't. Forget the projects, go up to any average black male and say that and see if you ever say it again. For the camel jockey and muslim haters, go serve overseas and fight the extremists instead of hating on hard working successful well mannered muslims here. (cue the posts with news clipping about a violent muslim and a comment about here's your average well mannered muslim lol, so predictable. How about posting 1000 times more posts about the hard working muslims that have built a small empire working their asses off in America? The doctors the engineers and so on. Nope. You won't do it.)
My coffee break is over. It's very difficult to type from my phone and type coherently. I should be much more concise but I tend to post on this site on the go. We'll continue this later. I have some facts and figures for you.
I wasted 6 minutes of my time typing this out. What a waste of my time. It will far on deaf ears.
As far as I'm concerned, the extreme righties work alongside the lefties. Thanks a lot. Losers.
Good day now. Let's not take all of this too seriously. Politics is politics and we don't need to get too worked up. lol. It's good to vent and get it out but let's not take anything to heart or get too hostile. No point raising your blood pressure over it. The key is to build your own little empire and be healthy and wealthy. The game of politics has been going on and will go on long after we pass. Enjoy life.
I never argued the democratic party was dead, I don't think that stuff. Although liberals around here have often times naively said the Republican Party is dead.
What I said that Obama's eight years have gutted the democratic party, they've suffered major losses.
And while demographics are changing, the Republicans consistently win off year elections and have controlled the house 20 out of 24 years. As long as they hold one chamber, they'll have a voice.
They also control a vast majority of states now, more than they ever have, despite those changing demographics.
I'll also suggest that as long as those democratic demographics remain geographically concentrated, their vote won't help spread influence. It will only help to make democratic safe seats safer.
Finally, if Trump succeeds in improving educational opportunities and reduces crime in urban areas, if he actually improves their lives, he can make a significant dent in the Democrat's must have vote.
time changes everything, and everything will continue to evolve
What I said that Obama's eight years have gutted the democratic party, they've suffered major losses.
And while demographics are changing, the Republicans consistently win off year elections and have controlled the house 20 out of 24 years. As long as they hold one chamber, they'll have a voice.
They also control a vast majority of states now, more than they ever have, despite those changing demographics.
I'll also suggest that as long as those democratic demographics remain geographically concentrated, their vote won't help spread influence. It will only help to make democratic safe seats safer.
Finally, if Trump succeeds in improving educational opportunities and reduces crime in urban areas, if he actually improves their lives, he can make a significant dent in the Democrat's must have vote.
time changes everything, and everything will continue to evolve
as for name calling, c'mon man
what about;
"basket of deplorables"?
"racists"
"angry white men"
"KKK"
"stupid"
"homophobic"
"domestic terrorists"
"a bigger threat to America than Muslim extremists"
"arsonists"
"saboteurs"
"greedy white men"
"sexist"
they have even more issues, and are far more short sighted
what about;
"basket of deplorables"?
"racists"
"angry white men"
"KKK"
"stupid"
"homophobic"
"domestic terrorists"
"a bigger threat to America than Muslim extremists"
"arsonists"
"saboteurs"
"greedy white men"
"sexist"
they have even more issues, and are far more short sighted
That's a big IF. That's why I said 2020 is pivotal. Also that what Trump does during his time is very important.
I'll concede that you never said the Democratic Party is dead. I put words in your mouth and made assumptions based on what I've seen here. I'll admit I was wrong there. I can't argue any of your points.
I'll say this though, South Carolina, Florida, Arizona, Texas and maybe a couple other States that are Conservative States have many Democrats moving to these States even though they are red states. So the demographics are changing more than you know. The red states are getting more and more Democrats coming in each year. It's a fact.
It's funny though, Willie, I've discussed this with my students. I ask you, why are these Dems moving their beloved blue states for the red states? Is it the nicer, warmer weather? Perhaps. Or maybe it's because the blue states are more prosperous, more jobs, taxes and such all very well might be a factor. So these people vote Dem but move to red states lol. Oh the irony.
I can go into further detail but my point is it will continue to evolve in very interesting ways. What's important is that we acknowledge and address these issues.
I never go off on my friends or relatives during social gatherings about them being Democrats. Maybe some friendly ribbing and debates but never the hostility I've seen here between liberals and conservatives. I'd say I have more problems with far right crazy fanatics than democrats. It's ok I figure, these far right racist fanatics are insignificant and won't determine the future of this country. Intelligent minds will. We have to play the game and see the big picture. Part of which we've discussed here. A minute part of it but still important points.
The crazy right wing racist ignorant fanatics are more of a threat to this country than the Dems. They help the liberals paint us all as uneducated, hill billy racist, ignorant idiots. So if you vote right that's what you are. We conservatives don't have time to protest and brainwash people into believing all this. We are busy working and investing and raising kids and building our own little empires. Some small legacy to leave behind to say, yes we worked for this, we built this.
I don't agree with liberals on many points. I do however treat them and any president that is elected with respect whenI speak about them. I'm a patriot. I'll even go as far as to say I'm a nationalist. However I'm also human. We need to behave as men with dignity not as animals. So when people refer to a lady, the first lady or any lady as a gorilla face or refer to people as shitstain or camel jockeys or anything. It shows their bad upbringing, their ignorance but most of all their fear.
Don't anybody ever talk to me about being naive or clueless, ill informed. I've served my time fighting for this country. I work hard teaching bright young minds and I raised a good family that earned the right to hold their noses high pointing upwards. Trolls wants to act like they have all the answer based on idiotic logic, acting like 2 bit Sherlock Holmes wannabes. Go right ahead lol. Sure, I'll play your game. I'm a 12 year old sitting in mommy's basement with no job trolling away. Feel better? Does it make you feel better to believe that? It doesn't bother me. I know what I've accomplished. What does a few ignorant people's opinions on a forum matter to me especially when they don't know who I am? I can't be hurt. Oh sure I said I was offended by a few poster's words especially buster but then I sat back and thought, it's just his bad upbringing. It reflects on his mother and father. No harm done to me.
Alright folks. A few more shots of this fine Scotch and I'm about ready to call it a night.
Willie99 it'll be interesting to revisit this in a year or so when we see what Trump's done. Maybe I'm just a perpetual optimist but I'm envisioning good things. None of it matters if the country remains divided though.
I'll concede that you never said the Democratic Party is dead. I put words in your mouth and made assumptions based on what I've seen here. I'll admit I was wrong there. I can't argue any of your points.
I'll say this though, South Carolina, Florida, Arizona, Texas and maybe a couple other States that are Conservative States have many Democrats moving to these States even though they are red states. So the demographics are changing more than you know. The red states are getting more and more Democrats coming in each year. It's a fact.
It's funny though, Willie, I've discussed this with my students. I ask you, why are these Dems moving their beloved blue states for the red states? Is it the nicer, warmer weather? Perhaps. Or maybe it's because the blue states are more prosperous, more jobs, taxes and such all very well might be a factor. So these people vote Dem but move to red states lol. Oh the irony.
I can go into further detail but my point is it will continue to evolve in very interesting ways. What's important is that we acknowledge and address these issues.
I never go off on my friends or relatives during social gatherings about them being Democrats. Maybe some friendly ribbing and debates but never the hostility I've seen here between liberals and conservatives. I'd say I have more problems with far right crazy fanatics than democrats. It's ok I figure, these far right racist fanatics are insignificant and won't determine the future of this country. Intelligent minds will. We have to play the game and see the big picture. Part of which we've discussed here. A minute part of it but still important points.
The crazy right wing racist ignorant fanatics are more of a threat to this country than the Dems. They help the liberals paint us all as uneducated, hill billy racist, ignorant idiots. So if you vote right that's what you are. We conservatives don't have time to protest and brainwash people into believing all this. We are busy working and investing and raising kids and building our own little empires. Some small legacy to leave behind to say, yes we worked for this, we built this.
I don't agree with liberals on many points. I do however treat them and any president that is elected with respect whenI speak about them. I'm a patriot. I'll even go as far as to say I'm a nationalist. However I'm also human. We need to behave as men with dignity not as animals. So when people refer to a lady, the first lady or any lady as a gorilla face or refer to people as shitstain or camel jockeys or anything. It shows their bad upbringing, their ignorance but most of all their fear.
Don't anybody ever talk to me about being naive or clueless, ill informed. I've served my time fighting for this country. I work hard teaching bright young minds and I raised a good family that earned the right to hold their noses high pointing upwards. Trolls wants to act like they have all the answer based on idiotic logic, acting like 2 bit Sherlock Holmes wannabes. Go right ahead lol. Sure, I'll play your game. I'm a 12 year old sitting in mommy's basement with no job trolling away. Feel better? Does it make you feel better to believe that? It doesn't bother me. I know what I've accomplished. What does a few ignorant people's opinions on a forum matter to me especially when they don't know who I am? I can't be hurt. Oh sure I said I was offended by a few poster's words especially buster but then I sat back and thought, it's just his bad upbringing. It reflects on his mother and father. No harm done to me.
Alright folks. A few more shots of this fine Scotch and I'm about ready to call it a night.
Willie99 it'll be interesting to revisit this in a year or so when we see what Trump's done. Maybe I'm just a perpetual optimist but I'm envisioning good things. None of it matters if the country remains divided though.
As for the name calling, I was just giving them a taste of their own medicine, For God's sakes this goof buster called me daughter a whore. You NEVER call a lady a whore, you never attack a man's daughter so I told him his mother was a terrible parent, his father too. I also lashed out at other posters. they brought me down to their level. It won't happen again. At least I'll try not to.
I forgot that nobody actually knows my daughter or me or can hurt us in any way shape or form and it just reflects on their upbringing and their mother and father so the heck with it. All in good fun. Come on buster, get it all out. I won't even bother reading your posts anymore. You don't even provoke me cause you can't evoke emotion out of me. You became like an ant after you exposed yourself as a little, cowardly man.
If somebody calls you names it's a knee jerk reaction to give it right back. I got a little defensive with all the accusations. Some posters even digging up so called evidence with the most idiotic logic. I'm not a ghost but if their so called evidence points to it and they feel better about their lives after a 2 bit sherlock holmes wannabe investigation than whatever rocks your boat I guess.
I forgot that nobody actually knows my daughter or me or can hurt us in any way shape or form and it just reflects on their upbringing and their mother and father so the heck with it. All in good fun. Come on buster, get it all out. I won't even bother reading your posts anymore. You don't even provoke me cause you can't evoke emotion out of me. You became like an ant after you exposed yourself as a little, cowardly man.
If somebody calls you names it's a knee jerk reaction to give it right back. I got a little defensive with all the accusations. Some posters even digging up so called evidence with the most idiotic logic. I'm not a ghost but if their so called evidence points to it and they feel better about their lives after a 2 bit sherlock holmes wannabe investigation than whatever rocks your boat I guess.
I never accused you of saying any of those things, I'm just pointing out that while people on the left tend to say the right has problems because of their positions about minorities or immigrants or refugees, the left has those same issues with the demographics they attack.
RWB, enjoyed interacting with you in this thread. A refreshing change of pace
It's funny though, Willie, I've discussed this with my students. I ask you, why are these Dems leaving their beloved blue states for the red states? Is it the nicer, warmer weather? Perhaps. Or maybe it's because the red states are more prosperous, more jobs, taxes and such all very well might be a factor. So these people vote Dem but move to red states lol. Oh the irony.
I made some errors there. I was rushing. I'm sure everybody knew what I meant though.
I made some errors there. I was rushing. I'm sure everybody knew what I meant though.
