Ted Cruz fires back at Mitt Romney: You got 'clobbered' by Obama for a reason

[SheriffJoe]

Abortion

No solid trend one way or the other over the long term, though Gallup has the 'choicers' up 50-44. Not a deal breaker, especially when you factor in other issues and the fact presidents have very little sway or influence over abortion policies.

Moving on...

gay marriage

As Ace pointed out, gay marriage was outlawed in MANY blue states before the courts took matters into their own hands and started overturning the will of the people.

Again, nothing 'radical' or 'fringe' about candidates who support real marriage.

healthcare (not Obamacare).

You'll need to be specific.

Do they fit that category? Yes.

So then you don't want change and are satisfied with the status-quo?

 

[MantisToboggan]

No solid trend one way or the other over the long term, though Gallup has the 'choicers' up 50-44. Not a deal breaker, especially when you factor in other issues and the fact presidents have very little sway or influence over abortion policies.

Moving on...



As Ace pointed out, gay marriage was outlawed in MANY blue states before the courts took matters into their own hands and started overturning the will of the people.

Again, nothing 'radical' or 'fringe' about candidates who support real marriage.



You'll need to be specific.



So then you don't want change and are satisfied with the status-quo?

Never said that. I don't want the kind of change many of the far right candidates would bring about.

 

[SheriffJoe]

Never said that. I don't want the kind of change many of the far right candidates would bring about.

Do you want limited government? Do you think the current government is too big?

 

[MantisToboggan]

Do you want limited government? Do you think the current government is too big?

To a degree. Not as a limited as you do. I think it's too wasteful, more than too big. But yes, it's bigger than I would like.

 

[SheriffJoe]

To a degree. Not as a limited as you do. I think it's too wasteful, more than too big. But yes, it's bigger than I would like.

Why is it okay for the left to keep expanding government when they hold power, but when the right wins everyone expects us to sit on our hands and babysit the left's previous pet institutions and programs untouched, until the next round of leftist expansion when the cycle repeats itself (the last 50 years of politics in a nutshell)?

That isn't okay with me - and millions of other conservatives and libertarians. Why is that okay with you? The GOP names you listed (Romney, Dubya, Jeb, Kasich, Rubio etc.) are called "caretaker presidents" - at best, nothing changes; at worst, government expands even further, ie., Dubya and No Child Left Behind. *barf*

Any candidate who thinks the government is too big - more specifically, any candidate the gaystream media believes WILL act on those convictions - is considered 'fringe' and 'extreme'...in other words, a real threat.

If Ted Cruz gains momentum, he WILL be attacked ruthlessly because, unlike the names you listed, Cruz IS a threat to the establishment and Ruling Class power structure. You know it, I know it, even Vtard knows it. What a shock, something we all agree on.

A conservative's perceived electability has nothing to do with irrelevant "social issues." A social libertarian with a Big Government wrecking ball would get the same treatment.

That is how the game is played. The establishment will tell you the candidates they perceive to be the greatest threats - the ones they KNOW will follow through, and not just pay lip sevice to "small government" on the campaign trail.

Ted Cruz is brilliant, probably the most intelligent candidate we have seen in some time. We'll see if he figures this out.

 

[BleedingPurple]

It's not crap. You don't follow primaries or remember Herman Cain being dragged to the podium to defend/explain away a number of unnamed/unverified mistresses. That's politics, bud...not for the naive or faint of heart.

Answer this: if Sarah Palin accurately represented every issue you believe in, would you vote for her?

Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan were virtual ideological twins. One got clobbered, the other won record landslide elections. One connected with the American people, the other had the personality of a turnip.

So, to your point about 'electability' ...since the television age, it has very little to do where the candidates stand "on the issues." After all, Mitt Romney won the primary even though nobody could keep track of his positions from one day to the next. I'm sorry Mantis, but I find the criteria by which politicians are elected (especially after "Kenyan-born" Obama in 2008) very unsettling.

Reagan had great timing as well.

 

[Dave007inVegas]

Reagan had great timing as well.

What Reagan had was a set. That’s something only Trump and Cruz are showing so far.

If they continue to rise you’ll see all the rest suddenly buy a set of Teflon balls and start waving them around.

 

[PatsFan1283]

Entitlement reform is clearly an issue they lose big on. Much bigger than it seems too because most people are in favor of "entitlement reform", once that begins to get spelled out a little more clearly that it really means medicare and SS then it becomes 3rd rail.

People might not admit it but they value security and stability more than economic freedom in many cases. And since a lot of these people vote in primaries, it is a no go for a true Goldwater type of fiscal libertarian.

 

[BleedingPurple]

What Reagan had was a set. That’s something only Trump and Cruz are showing so far.

If they continue to rise you’ll see all the rest suddenly buy a set of Teflon balls and start waving them around.

trump may stand a chance, Cruz does not

 

[Dave007inVegas]

trump may stand a chance, Cruz does not

Cruz is the same as Trump only he does it more diplomatically.

I think they will avoid each other in the debates and try to split the herd so to speak.

Of the 17 candidates 12 will be gone in the next 6 months.

I don’t think Cruz will be one of them.

 

[SheriffJoe]

Cruz is the same as Trump only he does it more diplomatically.

I think they will avoid each other in the debates and try to split the herd so to speak.

Of the 17 candidates 12 will be gone in the next 6 months.

I don’t think Cruz will be one of them.

I think you're right.

I also think Trump may have peaked too early. If Trump drops out or fizzles Cruz will fill the void. At least that is how he's positioning himself.

The debates will be fun. Hopefully all the candidates spend more time attacking the Kenyan and Hillary than they do one another.

 

[SheriffJoe]

Entitlement reform is clearly an issue they lose big on. Much bigger than it seems too because most people are in favor of "entitlement reform", once that begins to get spelled out a little more clearly that it really means medicare and SS then it becomes 3rd rail.

People might not admit it but they value security and stability more than economic freedom in many cases. And since a lot of these people vote in primaries, it is a no go for a true Goldwater type of fiscal libertarian.

It doesn't have to be 3rd rail. Pay everyone what the government owes them (every last dollar paid into an involuntary system) and shut the door. Or just grandfather them out.

Problem solved. The Entitlement Era is over.