books deal a -110 to us. Casinos have a house edge in every game that you could play. Books and Casinos give back to us in the form of bonus's hoping we are degenerates and will squander the dep+bonus. If you are not a degenerate, you now have the edge back and then some... that books freely gave to you. End Of Story. Now that you got an edge, you play with that edge until you can't anymore. Blah. Free money. Not stealing. I do this with me and a couple buddies.
WVU - tell the truth, when you are at the supermarket and the blue haired wrinkly hag is handing out sausage samples, do you go up multiple times until you are full ? Possibly in a clever disguise or two if necessary ?
No need to spend $6 at subway, when you can fill a 30c roll with free sausage.
No need to spend $6 at subway, when you can fill a 30c roll with free sausage.
What WVU did was something that he's comfortable with. I don't think I would be comfortable with it, but I've whored every available casino that I knew of, and made some pretty good jack doing it. I did everything by the rules. I didn't do the mulitple accounts thing, but I did do it for several friends, but let them keep all of the profits. I guess he basically did the same thing, but did it on a large scale and was a businessman about it. It's a grey area....I wouldn't call him a thief, but I wouldn't exactly call it completely legitimate either. I've gone back and forth about it. I certainly understand the people calling him a thief. And I also understand him being able to rationalize everything that he did.
The problem I have with it is the ethics of it. I don't personally feel it is proper to take a bonus without intent of hopefully liking the service and having that book become an out for me. Since I don't play table games since they are negative expecation I would never bonus whore an online casino as I wouldn't plan on playing there afterwords. I see the bonus as what is intended to be for, to gain clients if the service is good. Now I understand that I am one of the more ethical people around and don't hold others to the standards that I have for myself, but multiple account whoring is definately over the line in my estimation.
I don't think it's unethical to use something outside the intent of the person/entity offering it. A person is not obligated to the intent. Case law will support people profiting from such situations.
I saw a show on one of those Discovery/History/Travel channels. It was about a group of guys in the 70's who used remote devices to count cards in Black Jack in Vegas. Back then it wasn't illegal. Was it the casinos intent to play BJ without help of an electronic device? Yes. Was it cheating to use an electronic device? Not back then.
