Just a couple of things.
I am surprised the school actually initiated the investigation knowing what the consequences could be. Then again, I guess they might have learned a little about how Penn State handled the Sandusky deal.
This was not a "drug ring". Most of the ones arrested were not connected and I believe only 3 out of the 17 arrested were selling anything besides pot. I would imagine that since the dealing of pot was on such a low level that most of them don't even go to jail. They are gone from the school and the team so I don't know what much more Gary Patterson can do.
The whole "82 failed a drug test" is laughable. What is even more laughable is that major news sources were reporting it as fact. It came from talks with Tanner Brock the day of the surprise drug test when he sold to an undercover. Him and one of the other players made statements along the lines of "I bet only 20 people or so would pass the drug test." Apparently, 5 did fail it with 6 others falling within the margin of error. Not to try and deflect anything from TCU but honestly this goes on at EVERY school. I hate that it was my school that got busted, but it is what it is.
I don't think this will hurt us in the long run since the administration and GP acted in the best way possible. As soon as GP got wind of the supposed drug test he popped the whole team with a surprise drug test. The administration didn't sit back on their heels when people came complaining about the drug use, they initiated the investigation.
Of course media outlets are going for the "shock" value because that brings in viewers/readers. It does suck that 4 of the kids were football players but you have to remember that kids are kids and they are going to get into trouble. This looks bad right now, but it will pass.
I am surprised the school actually initiated the investigation knowing what the consequences could be. Then again, I guess they might have learned a little about how Penn State handled the Sandusky deal.
This was not a "drug ring". Most of the ones arrested were not connected and I believe only 3 out of the 17 arrested were selling anything besides pot. I would imagine that since the dealing of pot was on such a low level that most of them don't even go to jail. They are gone from the school and the team so I don't know what much more Gary Patterson can do.
The whole "82 failed a drug test" is laughable. What is even more laughable is that major news sources were reporting it as fact. It came from talks with Tanner Brock the day of the surprise drug test when he sold to an undercover. Him and one of the other players made statements along the lines of "I bet only 20 people or so would pass the drug test." Apparently, 5 did fail it with 6 others falling within the margin of error. Not to try and deflect anything from TCU but honestly this goes on at EVERY school. I hate that it was my school that got busted, but it is what it is.
I don't think this will hurt us in the long run since the administration and GP acted in the best way possible. As soon as GP got wind of the supposed drug test he popped the whole team with a surprise drug test. The administration didn't sit back on their heels when people came complaining about the drug use, they initiated the investigation.
Of course media outlets are going for the "shock" value because that brings in viewers/readers. It does suck that 4 of the kids were football players but you have to remember that kids are kids and they are going to get into trouble. This looks bad right now, but it will pass.
Anyways, just a little insight on TCU. I see the term "christian" being thrown around. TCU is a HUGE party school. The only really thing about TCU that has to do with Christianity is the name. We are loosely associated with the Disciple of Christ but are not governed by them. The board must be made up of at least 1/4th from the DOC but no more than 1/3rd. You are not not forced to go to church or anything of that nature. The only thing that you have to do is you have to take at least 1 religion course but it doesn't have to be Christianity. In fact, I took a world religion class that I was taught about everything from Buddhism to Islam.
I only knew one kid that even went to church and that was because we was in school to become a minister. Fact is that TCU is a huge party school. Over 60% of the student population are in greek organizations and being that it is an expensive, private school most kids are wealthy. This gives most of them access to more money and therefore there is a lot of partying. Just thought I would share a little information about the school for anyone interested. Any other questions ask away...
I only knew one kid that even went to church and that was because we was in school to become a minister. Fact is that TCU is a huge party school. Over 60% of the student population are in greek organizations and being that it is an expensive, private school most kids are wealthy. This gives most of them access to more money and therefore there is a lot of partying. Just thought I would share a little information about the school for anyone interested. Any other questions ask away...
Wow.
Random drug test the brothas down in Miami or FSU right now and try and come away with only 5!
I still like TCU's chances to be super competitive in the B12 this year.
I can only imagine the memo that Patterson is firing out to his players that starts by "go ahead and get your running shoes on." No BS from him this year.
TCU is nothing more than a party school. It is a weak/easy education, but you get a name like TCU behind it; whereas down the road, SMU costs just as much, but you actually have to work for your degree.
I have several friends that went there, and none of them were not greek.
Smoking hot ladies and super douch guys run rampant.
Random drug test the brothas down in Miami or FSU right now and try and come away with only 5!
I still like TCU's chances to be super competitive in the B12 this year.
I can only imagine the memo that Patterson is firing out to his players that starts by "go ahead and get your running shoes on." No BS from him this year.
TCU is nothing more than a party school. It is a weak/easy education, but you get a name like TCU behind it; whereas down the road, SMU costs just as much, but you actually have to work for your degree.
I have several friends that went there, and none of them were not greek.
Smoking hot ladies and super douch guys run rampant.
I don't know where you are getting your info about the education at TCU being weak/easy. You might want to check into that a bit more. TCU is a very expensive private school and you are paying for a great education. Smaller classes help, as opposed to having 100 people in every class like at other universities. Might want to check some rankings before you talk about something you don't know. You got most of the rest of it spot on though. A bunch of hot girls and a bunch of douchebags.
That is first hand from all of my friends who took summer classes at a state school from my hometown-Midwestern State. They all complained about the difficulty. We are talking basics here-so I can't imagine that the core classes get exponentially tougher.
I work with a TCU MBA who jokes about the ease, though he got his undergrad from UT.
Rankings shmankings. A horned frog degree only holds any water because of the name.
Nevertheless, 99% of the TCU grads I know have had no problem getting a job since college (2002).
Anyone who actually believes only 5 tested positive must be smoking the same fire that started this mess.
This SB Nation article claims the drug test turned up just 5 users, not the 82 which was previously claimed. The article does have a feel of a coverup to me though. They said there was 11 players who had "trace elements of marijuana in their system." Which is a little like a girl saying she's half pregnant. You probably wouldn't be able to get hired for a job off of those test results. So it's basically 16 players who were involved. I hate seeing something like this happen to TCU with their team getting ready to join the Big 12. I would have liked to have seen the Frogs at full strenth coming in, and with none of these types of distractions.
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2012/2/16/2802708/tcu-drug-test-players-failed-82
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2012/2/16/2802708/tcu-drug-test-players-failed-82
The thing about these kinds of tests is we don't know exactly what kind of cut-off limit was used. Plus I don't know if it's true or not, but I read one time that for any of these players who are in football shape, the only kind of drug that is tested and detectable by urine testing outside of 2 or 3 days is marijuana. I wish they would take marijuana testing out of the equation. Further investigation showed that sex and alcohol consumption (not necessarily in that order) also took place on campus. You can pretty much lump together these 3 student activities..
