a "FRAUD" ...really? I dont think he was a fraud...I think he was trying to do something positive, and shit, maybe he missed a few. I can understand that, esp with all the numbers and the high volume that you need to keep up with. Especially if only 1 guy is doing it.
Instead of calling him a fraud...i think it might've been better to just correct his mistakes. He seems like the kind of guy that would appreciate people dbl checking his figures.
My point being, i dont think he was a "FRAUD"...and i dont think he was "pulling numbers out of his ass" (if anything, he was mixing things up). He was just an avg guy like the most of us, trying to help everyone out. I think a spirit of cooperation (and helping him) is better than saying he's a joke. I dont think he ever claimed to be a professional at any point.
why would you report him to wilheim and want him "banned" instead of letting him know where he messed up?
my 2 cents.
I'm a bit curious on this one as well. It's not like unknown touters were coming up on top. I'd be weary if Sleazy NewTout had the best record, but in reality it was showing guys most of us "respect" (use that word loosely) and follow as decent touts - ie Stan Sharp, Ben Burns, Indian Cowboy, etc.
I can understand the need for 'getting it right' if you're going to do it at all, but the guy was doing a free service for everyone here. If you don't like it, don't follow it. He could always add a disclaimer at the top allowing for human error.
To be honest, unless you had a website where you could add and track the plays by tout each day, as opposed to manual effort to scan through a threaded list each day of 15+ pages... you're going to mess up somewhere.
I did let him know - and he denied it and was unable to provide plays. those posts have been removed, but he denied it.
Its a great idea - and I agree with Chase - I wish we all could track every tout out there every night.
BUt at the same time, if you arent gonna do the job right - and make blatant mistakes - that also is not fair to the touts, most of whom you are getting free picks from.
Thats was my only point. And I guess some agree, and some dont. Not a surprise there.
Cheers and good luck
Its a great idea - and I agree with Chase - I wish we all could track every tout out there every night.
BUt at the same time, if you arent gonna do the job right - and make blatant mistakes - that also is not fair to the touts, most of whom you are getting free picks from.
Thats was my only point. And I guess some agree, and some dont. Not a surprise there.
Cheers and good luck
Well I am back in business boys and girls. I have removed the source of the problem from the list and will not post their records anymore. The problem with the poster is they believe I was using the individuals record from yesterday when they had a winning day and not the actual record that I was using from last Saturday when they had a horrible day.
Like I said in the beginning in no way is the list perfect. Except for the covers guys and I know there records are 100% legit because I have been tracking them for sometime.
I want to thank everyone for their pm's and the job is to beat the bookie, not each other. As I stated early on, I use this to see who is legit or not and I still cap my own games so I am not going to fight over one tout or the other. Rememebr also, No matter if a tout gives a winning game or a losing game, they still got paid.
Alatex- 2-5-1
Alex Smart- 15-14
Andre Gomes- 2-3
Andrew Powers- 7-8
Anton Wins- 1-1
Archway- 5-2
Arthur Ralph sports- 2-1
ASA- 7-5
ATS Financial- 6-11
ATS Lock Club- 8-20
ATS Sports Club- 18-21-4
Beat the Bookie- 9-6
Ben Burns- 17-15-1
Betting Kings.com- 2-3-1
Big Al- 20-18-1 YTD
Billy Coleman- 4-16
Blue Wizard- 4-0
Bob Balfe- 6-6-1
Bobby Clarke Sports- 6-6-1
Brad Diamond- 1-1
Brandon Lang- 10-8-1 YTD
Brandon Lovell- 2-0
Brassball Picks- 1-0
Bryan Leonard- 11-6
Brent Crow- 1-0
Budin- 0-1
C Stars- 9-8
Cajun Sports Exec- 23-25-1 YTD
California Sports- 5-3
Cappers Access- 6-5
Carlo Campanella- 0-1
Charlie- 18-19
Chicago Sports Conn- 6-5-1
Cogyle- 3-4
Computer Sports- 0-1
Craig Davis- 3-5-1
Dave Cokin- 18-16 YTD
David Chan- 13-13
Dean- 7-0
Dennis Hill- 0-1
Destroy the Books- 29-20-2
DJD Of My Dollar 8-3
Doc- 1-2
Doc’s sports- 11-13-1
Donnie Black- 0-1
Dr Bob- 9-13
Dr Guru- 3-2
Dr. Canada- 10-15
East Coast Sports Con.-
Easy Baseball betting- 2-2
Ed Cash- 0-1
Eddie Mush- 11-17
Elite Sports Circle- 2-0
Elite Sports Picks- 0-2
Erin Rynning- 9-3
Ethan Law- 2-5-1
Executive- 3-8-1
Fast Break- 3-2
Fat Harry-5-2
Ferrell- 5-3
Ferringo- 33-40
Frank Patron- 1-0
Gameday- 1-5
Gametime sports- 2-1
Gina- 2-1
GMC- 5-4
Grant Scott- 1-4
Great Lake sports- 3-4
Halfbets.com- 3-1
Helmut- 0-0-1
High Stake Sydicate- 0-1
Hot Picks online- 1-2
Iceman- 1-0
IGZ Sports- 8-14
Indian Cowboy- 11-4-1
Insiders Sports Report- 3-6
JB Sports- 3-5-1
Jeff Benton- 0-2
Jefferson- 16-12-1
Jenkins- 0-1
Jim Feist- 3-5
Jim Hurley- 7-6
Jim Kruger- 1-1
Jimmy Boyd- 1-0
John Fina- 7-3
John Ryan- 1-1
Johnny Guild- 5-5
KB Hoops- 15-9
Keith Martin- 0-2
Killer move- 14-16
Kindergarden Capper- 10-6
Kirkwins- 17-19
Lances Lock- 2-2
Larry Ness- 20-29-2 YTD
Las Vegas Sports Picks- 17-16-1
Lee Kostroski-12-14-1
Lee Sterling- 0-1
Lenny Del Genio- 5-3
Lenny Stevens-5-5
Lockoftheday.com- 1-3
M&M Sports- 6-3
Maddux- 12-8
Malinsky- 11-17
Marc Lawrence- 10-16 YTD
Marty Otto- 0-1
Matt Fargo- 15-7
Matt Rivers- 2-2
Mike Handelek- 3-2
Mike Lineback- 1-1
Mike Neri- 1-1-1
Millionaire Club- 1-2
Money Maker of My Dollar- 6-3
Mr. A’s- 6-7
Must Win Sports- 0-1
Nationwide- 8-5-2
Nick Parsons- 3-1
Nostradamus- 4-2
NSA- 23-23-1
NY Sports Exchange- 5-0
Opposite Action Play- 1-2
Over the spread.com- 5-2-1
Paul Leiner 5-3
Pete Ezra- 5-3
Philly Conn.- 0-1
Playbook Newsletter- 0-1
Point Wise- 0-2
Power Play wins- 0-1
PPP- 36-32-3 YTD
Primetime sports advisors- 4-2
Profit on Sports- 1-2
Pro Sports Plays- 4-1
Pure Lock- 0-1
Rainman- 1-0
RAS- 15-16-1
Rob Veno- 1-0
Rocketman- 5-4
Ron Raymond- 9-12-1
Roundball- 1-6
Savannah Sports 2-2
Score- 0-2-2
Scott Rickenbach- 14-14
Scott Spreitzer- 12-7-2
Seabass- 38-40 YTD
Smart Money bets- 4-5
Smooth 44-, 13-12
Special K- 6-6
Sports Advisors- 4-7
Sports Analyst- 5-1
Sports Bank- 2-2
Sports Firm- 1-3
Sports investors net- 0-1
Sports reporter- 0-4
Sports Unlimited- 6-3
Stadium Club- 9-7
Stan Sharp- 6-1
Steam online- 1-0
Stephen Nover- 13-16
Steve Merrill- 16-9-1
Strike Sports- 7-3
Sunday Selections- 0-2
Syndicate Betting Systems- 16-17-1
System Sport GTD- 1-0
Teddy Sevransky-Covers- 15-10
Teddy June- 5-4-1
Tim Trushel- 1-1
The Animal- 1-4
The Consensus Group- 4-8
The Miller Group- 18-10
The Prez-21-16-1
Tom Stryker- 1-2
Tony Bruno wins- 0-1
Tony George- 0-2
Trace Adams- 2-1
Triple Crown- 0-1
Vegas Sports Experts- 6-11
Vegas Line- 4-4-1
Vegas Runner- 18-14
Vernon Croy- 1-1
Victorious Play- 3-0
Vic Monte- 0-1
Wayne Root- 37-24-1 YTD
West Coast Sports- 2-2
Winning Angle- 8-3
Wunderdog- 6-3
Yankee Capper- 1-2
Young guns- 1-2
Youngstown Conn.- 3-4
Like I said in the beginning in no way is the list perfect. Except for the covers guys and I know there records are 100% legit because I have been tracking them for sometime.
I want to thank everyone for their pm's and the job is to beat the bookie, not each other. As I stated early on, I use this to see who is legit or not and I still cap my own games so I am not going to fight over one tout or the other. Rememebr also, No matter if a tout gives a winning game or a losing game, they still got paid.
Alatex- 2-5-1
Alex Smart- 15-14
Andre Gomes- 2-3
Andrew Powers- 7-8
Anton Wins- 1-1
Archway- 5-2
Arthur Ralph sports- 2-1
ASA- 7-5
ATS Financial- 6-11
ATS Lock Club- 8-20
ATS Sports Club- 18-21-4
Beat the Bookie- 9-6
Ben Burns- 17-15-1
Betting Kings.com- 2-3-1
Big Al- 20-18-1 YTD
Billy Coleman- 4-16
Blue Wizard- 4-0
Bob Balfe- 6-6-1
Bobby Clarke Sports- 6-6-1
Brad Diamond- 1-1
Brandon Lang- 10-8-1 YTD
Brandon Lovell- 2-0
Brassball Picks- 1-0
Bryan Leonard- 11-6
Brent Crow- 1-0
Budin- 0-1
C Stars- 9-8
Cajun Sports Exec- 23-25-1 YTD
California Sports- 5-3
Cappers Access- 6-5
Carlo Campanella- 0-1
Charlie- 18-19
Chicago Sports Conn- 6-5-1
Cogyle- 3-4
Computer Sports- 0-1
Craig Davis- 3-5-1
Dave Cokin- 18-16 YTD
David Chan- 13-13
Dean- 7-0
Dennis Hill- 0-1
Destroy the Books- 29-20-2
DJD Of My Dollar 8-3
Doc- 1-2
Doc’s sports- 11-13-1
Donnie Black- 0-1
Dr Bob- 9-13
Dr Guru- 3-2
Dr. Canada- 10-15
East Coast Sports Con.-
Easy Baseball betting- 2-2
Ed Cash- 0-1
Eddie Mush- 11-17
Elite Sports Circle- 2-0
Elite Sports Picks- 0-2
Erin Rynning- 9-3
Ethan Law- 2-5-1
Executive- 3-8-1
Fast Break- 3-2
Fat Harry-5-2
Ferrell- 5-3
Ferringo- 33-40
Frank Patron- 1-0
Gameday- 1-5
Gametime sports- 2-1
Gina- 2-1
GMC- 5-4
Grant Scott- 1-4
Great Lake sports- 3-4
Halfbets.com- 3-1
Helmut- 0-0-1
High Stake Sydicate- 0-1
Hot Picks online- 1-2
Iceman- 1-0
IGZ Sports- 8-14
Indian Cowboy- 11-4-1
Insiders Sports Report- 3-6
JB Sports- 3-5-1
Jeff Benton- 0-2
Jefferson- 16-12-1
Jenkins- 0-1
Jim Feist- 3-5
Jim Hurley- 7-6
Jim Kruger- 1-1
Jimmy Boyd- 1-0
John Fina- 7-3
John Ryan- 1-1
Johnny Guild- 5-5
KB Hoops- 15-9
Keith Martin- 0-2
Killer move- 14-16
Kindergarden Capper- 10-6
Kirkwins- 17-19
Lances Lock- 2-2
Larry Ness- 20-29-2 YTD
Las Vegas Sports Picks- 17-16-1
Lee Kostroski-12-14-1
Lee Sterling- 0-1
Lenny Del Genio- 5-3
Lenny Stevens-5-5
Lockoftheday.com- 1-3
M&M Sports- 6-3
Maddux- 12-8
Malinsky- 11-17
Marc Lawrence- 10-16 YTD
Marty Otto- 0-1
Matt Fargo- 15-7
Matt Rivers- 2-2
Mike Handelek- 3-2
Mike Lineback- 1-1
Mike Neri- 1-1-1
Millionaire Club- 1-2
Money Maker of My Dollar- 6-3
Mr. A’s- 6-7
Must Win Sports- 0-1
Nationwide- 8-5-2
Nick Parsons- 3-1
Nostradamus- 4-2
NSA- 23-23-1
NY Sports Exchange- 5-0
Opposite Action Play- 1-2
Over the spread.com- 5-2-1
Paul Leiner 5-3
Pete Ezra- 5-3
Philly Conn.- 0-1
Playbook Newsletter- 0-1
Point Wise- 0-2
Power Play wins- 0-1
PPP- 36-32-3 YTD
Primetime sports advisors- 4-2
Profit on Sports- 1-2
Pro Sports Plays- 4-1
Pure Lock- 0-1
Rainman- 1-0
RAS- 15-16-1
Rob Veno- 1-0
Rocketman- 5-4
Ron Raymond- 9-12-1
Roundball- 1-6
Savannah Sports 2-2
Score- 0-2-2
Scott Rickenbach- 14-14
Scott Spreitzer- 12-7-2
Seabass- 38-40 YTD
Smart Money bets- 4-5
Smooth 44-, 13-12
Special K- 6-6
Sports Advisors- 4-7
Sports Analyst- 5-1
Sports Bank- 2-2
Sports Firm- 1-3
Sports investors net- 0-1
Sports reporter- 0-4
Sports Unlimited- 6-3
Stadium Club- 9-7
Stan Sharp- 6-1
Steam online- 1-0
Stephen Nover- 13-16
Steve Merrill- 16-9-1
Strike Sports- 7-3
Sunday Selections- 0-2
Syndicate Betting Systems- 16-17-1
System Sport GTD- 1-0
Teddy Sevransky-Covers- 15-10
Teddy June- 5-4-1
Tim Trushel- 1-1
The Animal- 1-4
The Consensus Group- 4-8
The Miller Group- 18-10
The Prez-21-16-1
Tom Stryker- 1-2
Tony Bruno wins- 0-1
Tony George- 0-2
Trace Adams- 2-1
Triple Crown- 0-1
Vegas Sports Experts- 6-11
Vegas Line- 4-4-1
Vegas Runner- 18-14
Vernon Croy- 1-1
Victorious Play- 3-0
Vic Monte- 0-1
Wayne Root- 37-24-1 YTD
West Coast Sports- 2-2
Winning Angle- 8-3
Wunderdog- 6-3
Yankee Capper- 1-2
Young guns- 1-2
Youngstown Conn.- 3-4
GMR, big props for putting in the work to track all these services. I've often found that there are so many services, it's hard to know who is actually doing well. This goes a long way to helping people figure that out.
Thought I'd contribute a bit as well, I threw your numbers in a spreadsheet to calculate winning percentage for the services you listed. Keep up the good work.
WIN% Service
100.00% Brassball Picks- 1-0
100.00% Steam online- 1-0
100.00% Elite Sports Circle- 2-0
100.00% Dean- 7-0
100.00% System Sport GTD- 1-0
100.00% Frank Patron- 1-0
100.00% Victorious Play- 3-0
100.00% NY Sports Exchange- 5-0
100.00% Jimmy Boyd- 1-0
100.00% Blue Wizard- 4-0
100.00% Rainman- 1-0
100.00% Brent Crow- 1-0
100.00% Rob Veno- 1-0
100.00% Iceman- 1-0
100.00% Brandon Lovell- 2-0
85.71% Stan Sharp- 6-1
83.33% Sports Analyst- 5-1
80.00% Pro Sports Plays- 4-1
75.00% Halfbets.com- 3-1
75.00% Erin Rynning- 9-3
75.00% Nick Parsons- 3-1
73.33% Indian Cowboy- 11-4-1
72.73% DJD Of My Dollar 8-3
72.73% Winning Angle- 8-3
71.43% Archway- 5-2
71.43% Fat Harry- 5-2
71.43% Over the spread.com- 5-2-1
70.00% John Fina- 7-3
70.00% Strike Sports- 7-3
68.18% Matt Fargo- 15-7
66.67% Primetime sports advisors- 4-2
66.67% Gametime sports- 2-1
66.67% Money Maker of My Dollar- 6-3
66.67% Gina- 2-1
66.67% Sports Unlimited- 6-3
66.67% Arthur Ralph sports- 2-1
66.67% Trace Adams- 2-1
66.67% Wunderdog- 6-3
66.67% M&M Sports- 6-3
66.67% Nostradamus- 4-2
64.71% Bryan Leonard- 11-6
64.29% The Miller Group- 18-10
64.00% Steve Merrill- 16-9-1
63.16% Scott Spreitzer- 12-7-2
62.50% California Sports- 5-3
62.50% Pete Ezra- 5-3
62.50% KB Hoops- 15-9
62.50% Kindergarden Capper- 10-6
62.50% Ferrell- 5-3
62.50% Lenny Del Genio- 5-3
62.50% Paul Leiner- 5-3
61.54% Nationwide- 8-5-2
60.66% Wayne Root- 37-24-1 YTD
60.00% Fast Break- 3-2
60.00% Teddy Sevransky-Covers- 15-10
60.00% Mike Handelek- 3-2
60.00% Maddux- 12-8
60.00% Dr Guru- 3-2
60.00% Beat the Bookie- 9-6
59.18% Destroy the Books- 29-20-2
58.33% ASA- 7-5
57.14% Jefferson- 16-12-1
56.76% The Prez- 21-16-1
56.25% Stadium Club- 9-7
56.25% Vegas Runner- 18-14
55.56% Teddy June- 5-4-1
55.56% Rocketman- 5-4
55.56% GMC- 5-4
55.56% Brandon Lang- 10-8-1 YTD
54.55% Cappers Access- 6-5
54.55% Chicago Sports Conn- 6-5-1
53.85% Jim Hurley- 7-6
53.13% Ben Burns- 17-15-1
52.94% PPP- 36-32-3 YTD
52.94% C Stars- 9-8
52.94% Dave Cokin- 18-16
52.63% Big Al- 20-18-1 YTD
52.00% Smooth 44- 13-12
51.72% Alex Smart- 15-14
51.52% Las Vegas Sports Picks- 17-16-1
50.00% Lances Lock- 2-2
50.00% NSA- 23-23-1
50.00% West Coast Sports- 2-2
50.00% Bobby Clarke Sports- 6-6-1
50.00% Jim Kruger- 1-1
50.00% Savannah Sports- 2-2
50.00% Anton Wins- 1-1
50.00% John Ryan- 1-1
50.00% Johnny Guild- 5-5
50.00% Vernon Croy- 1-1
50.00% Vegas Line- 4-4-1
50.00% Mike Lineback- 1-1
50.00% Scott Rickenbach- 14-14
50.00% Sports Bank- 2-2
50.00% Mike Neri- 1-1-1
50.00% Special K- 6-6
50.00% Easy Baseball betting- 2-2
50.00% Tim Trushel- 1-1
50.00% Bob Balfe- 6-6-1
50.00% Lenny Stevens- 5-5
50.00% Brad Diamond- 1-1
50.00% David Chan- 13-13
50.00% Matt Rivers- 2-2
48.72% Seabass- 38-40
48.65% Charlie- 18-19
48.48% Syndicate Betting Systems- 16-17-1
48.39% RAS- 15-16-1
47.92% Cajun Sports Exec- 23-25-1 YTD
47.22% Kirkwins- 17-19
46.67% Killer move- 14-16
46.67% Andrew Powers- 7-8
46.15% ATS Sports Club- 18-21-4
46.15% Mr. A’s- 6-7
46.15% Lee Kostroski- 12-14-1
45.83% Doc’s sports- 11-13-1
45.21% Ferringo- 33-40
44.83% Stephen Nover- 13-16
44.44% Smart Money bets- 4-5
42.86% Cogyle- 3-4
42.86% Ron Raymond- 9-12-1
42.86% Youngstown Conn.- 3-4
42.86% Great Lake sports- 3-4
40.91% Dr Bob- 9-13
40.82% Larry Ness- 20-29-2 YTD
40.00% Andre Gomes- 2-3
40.00% Dr. Canada- 10-15
40.00% Betting Kings.com- 2-3-1
39.29% Eddie Mush- 11-17
39.29% Malinsky- 11-17
38.46% Marc Lawrence- 10-16
37.50% JB Sports- 3-5-1
37.50% Jim Feist- 3-5
37.50% Craig Davis- 3-5-1
36.36% Sports Advisors- 4-7
36.36% IGZ Sports- 8-14
35.29% Vegas Sports Experts- 6-11
35.29% ATS Financial- 6-11
33.33% Insiders Sports Report- 3-6
33.33% Opposite Action Play- 1-2
33.33% Young guns- 1-2
33.33% Yankee Capper- 1-2
33.33% The Consensus Group- 4-8
33.33% Tom Stryker- 1-2
33.33% Profit on Sports- 1-2
33.33% Hot Picks online- 1-2
33.33% Doc- 1-2
33.33% Millionaire Club- 1-2
28.57% ATS Lock Club- 8-20
28.57% Alatex- 2-5-1
28.57% Ethan Law- 2-5-1
27.27% Executive- 3-8-1
25.00% Sports Firm- 1-3
25.00% Lockoftheday.com- 1-3
20.00% Billy Coleman- 4-16
20.00% Grant Scott- 1-4
20.00% The Animal- 1-4
16.67% Gameday- 1-5
14.29% Roundball- 1-6
0.00% Power Play wins- 0-1
0.00% Dennis Hill- 0-1
0.00% High Stake Sydicate- 0-1
0.00% Jeff Benton- 0-2
0.00% Vic Monte- 0-1
0.00% Carlo Campanella- 0-1
0.00% Triple Crown- 0-1
0.00% Tony George- 0-2
0.00% Jenkins- 0-1
0.00% Must Win Sports- 0-1
0.00% Tony Bruno wins- 0-1
0.00% Keith Martin- 0-2
0.00% Sunday Selections- 0-2
0.00% Sports investors net- 0-1
0.00% Elite Sports Picks- 0-2
0.00% Point Wise- 0-2
0.00% Lee Sterling- 0-1
0.00% Sports reporter- 0-4
0.00% Philly Conn.- 0-1
0.00% Marty Otto- 0-1
0.00% Computer Sports- 0-1
0.00% Ed Cash- 0-1
0.00% Score- 0-2-2
0.00% Budin- 0-1
0.00% Playbook Newsletter- 0-1
0.00% Pure Lock- 0-1
0.00% Donnie Black- 0-1
Thought I'd contribute a bit as well, I threw your numbers in a spreadsheet to calculate winning percentage for the services you listed. Keep up the good work.
WIN% Service
100.00% Brassball Picks- 1-0
100.00% Steam online- 1-0
100.00% Elite Sports Circle- 2-0
100.00% Dean- 7-0
100.00% System Sport GTD- 1-0
100.00% Frank Patron- 1-0
100.00% Victorious Play- 3-0
100.00% NY Sports Exchange- 5-0
100.00% Jimmy Boyd- 1-0
100.00% Blue Wizard- 4-0
100.00% Rainman- 1-0
100.00% Brent Crow- 1-0
100.00% Rob Veno- 1-0
100.00% Iceman- 1-0
100.00% Brandon Lovell- 2-0
85.71% Stan Sharp- 6-1
83.33% Sports Analyst- 5-1
80.00% Pro Sports Plays- 4-1
75.00% Halfbets.com- 3-1
75.00% Erin Rynning- 9-3
75.00% Nick Parsons- 3-1
73.33% Indian Cowboy- 11-4-1
72.73% DJD Of My Dollar 8-3
72.73% Winning Angle- 8-3
71.43% Archway- 5-2
71.43% Fat Harry- 5-2
71.43% Over the spread.com- 5-2-1
70.00% John Fina- 7-3
70.00% Strike Sports- 7-3
68.18% Matt Fargo- 15-7
66.67% Primetime sports advisors- 4-2
66.67% Gametime sports- 2-1
66.67% Money Maker of My Dollar- 6-3
66.67% Gina- 2-1
66.67% Sports Unlimited- 6-3
66.67% Arthur Ralph sports- 2-1
66.67% Trace Adams- 2-1
66.67% Wunderdog- 6-3
66.67% M&M Sports- 6-3
66.67% Nostradamus- 4-2
64.71% Bryan Leonard- 11-6
64.29% The Miller Group- 18-10
64.00% Steve Merrill- 16-9-1
63.16% Scott Spreitzer- 12-7-2
62.50% California Sports- 5-3
62.50% Pete Ezra- 5-3
62.50% KB Hoops- 15-9
62.50% Kindergarden Capper- 10-6
62.50% Ferrell- 5-3
62.50% Lenny Del Genio- 5-3
62.50% Paul Leiner- 5-3
61.54% Nationwide- 8-5-2
60.66% Wayne Root- 37-24-1 YTD
60.00% Fast Break- 3-2
60.00% Teddy Sevransky-Covers- 15-10
60.00% Mike Handelek- 3-2
60.00% Maddux- 12-8
60.00% Dr Guru- 3-2
60.00% Beat the Bookie- 9-6
59.18% Destroy the Books- 29-20-2
58.33% ASA- 7-5
57.14% Jefferson- 16-12-1
56.76% The Prez- 21-16-1
56.25% Stadium Club- 9-7
56.25% Vegas Runner- 18-14
55.56% Teddy June- 5-4-1
55.56% Rocketman- 5-4
55.56% GMC- 5-4
55.56% Brandon Lang- 10-8-1 YTD
54.55% Cappers Access- 6-5
54.55% Chicago Sports Conn- 6-5-1
53.85% Jim Hurley- 7-6
53.13% Ben Burns- 17-15-1
52.94% PPP- 36-32-3 YTD
52.94% C Stars- 9-8
52.94% Dave Cokin- 18-16
52.63% Big Al- 20-18-1 YTD
52.00% Smooth 44- 13-12
51.72% Alex Smart- 15-14
51.52% Las Vegas Sports Picks- 17-16-1
50.00% Lances Lock- 2-2
50.00% NSA- 23-23-1
50.00% West Coast Sports- 2-2
50.00% Bobby Clarke Sports- 6-6-1
50.00% Jim Kruger- 1-1
50.00% Savannah Sports- 2-2
50.00% Anton Wins- 1-1
50.00% John Ryan- 1-1
50.00% Johnny Guild- 5-5
50.00% Vernon Croy- 1-1
50.00% Vegas Line- 4-4-1
50.00% Mike Lineback- 1-1
50.00% Scott Rickenbach- 14-14
50.00% Sports Bank- 2-2
50.00% Mike Neri- 1-1-1
50.00% Special K- 6-6
50.00% Easy Baseball betting- 2-2
50.00% Tim Trushel- 1-1
50.00% Bob Balfe- 6-6-1
50.00% Lenny Stevens- 5-5
50.00% Brad Diamond- 1-1
50.00% David Chan- 13-13
50.00% Matt Rivers- 2-2
48.72% Seabass- 38-40
48.65% Charlie- 18-19
48.48% Syndicate Betting Systems- 16-17-1
48.39% RAS- 15-16-1
47.92% Cajun Sports Exec- 23-25-1 YTD
47.22% Kirkwins- 17-19
46.67% Killer move- 14-16
46.67% Andrew Powers- 7-8
46.15% ATS Sports Club- 18-21-4
46.15% Mr. A’s- 6-7
46.15% Lee Kostroski- 12-14-1
45.83% Doc’s sports- 11-13-1
45.21% Ferringo- 33-40
44.83% Stephen Nover- 13-16
44.44% Smart Money bets- 4-5
42.86% Cogyle- 3-4
42.86% Ron Raymond- 9-12-1
42.86% Youngstown Conn.- 3-4
42.86% Great Lake sports- 3-4
40.91% Dr Bob- 9-13
40.82% Larry Ness- 20-29-2 YTD
40.00% Andre Gomes- 2-3
40.00% Dr. Canada- 10-15
40.00% Betting Kings.com- 2-3-1
39.29% Eddie Mush- 11-17
39.29% Malinsky- 11-17
38.46% Marc Lawrence- 10-16
37.50% JB Sports- 3-5-1
37.50% Jim Feist- 3-5
37.50% Craig Davis- 3-5-1
36.36% Sports Advisors- 4-7
36.36% IGZ Sports- 8-14
35.29% Vegas Sports Experts- 6-11
35.29% ATS Financial- 6-11
33.33% Insiders Sports Report- 3-6
33.33% Opposite Action Play- 1-2
33.33% Young guns- 1-2
33.33% Yankee Capper- 1-2
33.33% The Consensus Group- 4-8
33.33% Tom Stryker- 1-2
33.33% Profit on Sports- 1-2
33.33% Hot Picks online- 1-2
33.33% Doc- 1-2
33.33% Millionaire Club- 1-2
28.57% ATS Lock Club- 8-20
28.57% Alatex- 2-5-1
28.57% Ethan Law- 2-5-1
27.27% Executive- 3-8-1
25.00% Sports Firm- 1-3
25.00% Lockoftheday.com- 1-3
20.00% Billy Coleman- 4-16
20.00% Grant Scott- 1-4
20.00% The Animal- 1-4
16.67% Gameday- 1-5
14.29% Roundball- 1-6
0.00% Power Play wins- 0-1
0.00% Dennis Hill- 0-1
0.00% High Stake Sydicate- 0-1
0.00% Jeff Benton- 0-2
0.00% Vic Monte- 0-1
0.00% Carlo Campanella- 0-1
0.00% Triple Crown- 0-1
0.00% Tony George- 0-2
0.00% Jenkins- 0-1
0.00% Must Win Sports- 0-1
0.00% Tony Bruno wins- 0-1
0.00% Keith Martin- 0-2
0.00% Sunday Selections- 0-2
0.00% Sports investors net- 0-1
0.00% Elite Sports Picks- 0-2
0.00% Point Wise- 0-2
0.00% Lee Sterling- 0-1
0.00% Sports reporter- 0-4
0.00% Philly Conn.- 0-1
0.00% Marty Otto- 0-1
0.00% Computer Sports- 0-1
0.00% Ed Cash- 0-1
0.00% Score- 0-2-2
0.00% Budin- 0-1
0.00% Playbook Newsletter- 0-1
0.00% Pure Lock- 0-1
0.00% Donnie Black- 0-1
arty:my friend i have been ranting about fadeing ats lock and financial for weeks now,personaly been taken to the poor house many years ago by them .Been fadeing them for 3 solid tears doing just fine but i think they won that goy in irvine,i bet the same 100.00 against on every game nomatter the unit bs they put on it ...just a point for info
im sorry you did have the lsu lozer,you missed the arkansas lozer in financial another perfect 0-3 day god i love ats,thak you so much for the gents that post their plays,their goy are great ill give that,but the rest on a good week about 40% that means we win 60% $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
ATS Fade Club
Exactly -- they'll finally have one winning day (you would think eventually) and they will email and send their mailings pumping themselves up about how they are killing the books and will win 200+ units by the end of the month. As if they can just sweep 175 units of losses earlier this month right under the rug.
Going into yesterday:
ATS Financial- 6-11
ATS Lock Club- 8-20
Yesterday:
20 Cal Irvine GOY + 9.5 - Lost
7 Wyoming - 7 - Won *
7 Iowa State + 7.5 - Lost
6 Buffalo + 9 - Won
5 LSU - 2.5 - Lost
4 Nebraska -3 - Lost
4 Wisconsin Mil + 13.5 - Lost
4 Arkansas - 4.5 - Lost
* - the only reason they won the Wyoming game was some idiot fouled the guy on the in bounds pass with less than three seconds left, down by 7. As if you can score 7+ points in less than three seconds without the ball. Joke.
Record for the day : 2-6, down 31 units.
Eventually they'll have a winning day and they'll bug me again about how great they are but it's certainly been a long time since they had even one good day, nevermind a good week.
Exactly -- they'll finally have one winning day (you would think eventually) and they will email and send their mailings pumping themselves up about how they are killing the books and will win 200+ units by the end of the month. As if they can just sweep 175 units of losses earlier this month right under the rug.
Going into yesterday:
ATS Financial- 6-11
ATS Lock Club- 8-20
Yesterday:
20 Cal Irvine GOY + 9.5 - Lost
7 Wyoming - 7 - Won *
7 Iowa State + 7.5 - Lost
6 Buffalo + 9 - Won
5 LSU - 2.5 - Lost
4 Nebraska -3 - Lost
4 Wisconsin Mil + 13.5 - Lost
4 Arkansas - 4.5 - Lost
* - the only reason they won the Wyoming game was some idiot fouled the guy on the in bounds pass with less than three seconds left, down by 7. As if you can score 7+ points in less than three seconds without the ball. Joke.
Record for the day : 2-6, down 31 units.
Eventually they'll have a winning day and they'll bug me again about how great they are but it's certainly been a long time since they had even one good day, nevermind a good week.
Heres the update through Saturday
Alatex- 4-10-1
Al Demarco- 1-0
Alex Smart- 17-19
Andre Gomes- 2-5
Andrew Powers- 9-9
Anton Wins- 2-2
Archway- 5-2
Arthur Ralph sports- 2-1
ASA- 8-5
ATS Financial- 6-14
ATS Lock Club- 10-23
ATS Sports Club- 22-27-4
Beat the Bookie- 10-8
Ben Burns- 20-19-2
Betting Kings.com- 2-3-1
Big Al- 23-26-1 YTD
Billy Coleman- 6-18
Blue Wizard- 5-2
Bob Balfe- 7-8-1
Bobby Clarke Sports- 10-12-1
Bobby Marshall- 0-1
Brad Diamond- 1-2
Brandon Lang- 10-9-1 YTD
Brandon Lovell- 4-0
Brassball Picks- 1-0
Bryan Leonard- 13-7
Brent Crow- 1-1
Budin- 1-1
C Stars- 10-12
Cajun Sports Exec- 24-27-1 YTD
California Sports- 12-5
Cappers Access- 7-7
Carlo Campanella- 0-1
Charlie- 25-22
Chicago Sports Conn- 7-6-1
Cogyle- 3-4
Computer Sports- 0-1
Craig Davis-4-7-1
Dave Cokin- 19-18 YTD
David Chan- 19-17
Deano- 9-1
Dennis Hill- 0-1
Destroy the Books- 29-20-2
DJD Of My Dollar 10-7
Doc- 1-2
Doc’s sports- 15-14-1
Donnie Black- 0-2
Dr Bob- 12-15
Dr Guru- 4-2
Dr. Canada- 10-15
East Coast Sports Con.-
Easy Baseball betting- 2-2
Ed Cash- 1-1
Eddie Mush- 17-21
Elite Sports Circle- 2-0
Elite Sports Picks- 0-2
Erin Rynning- 10-4
Ethan Law- 7-7-2
Executive- 4-12-1
Fairway Jay- 1-0
Fast Break- 3-6
Fat Harry-5-4
Ferrell- 5-3
Ferringo- 34-41
Frank Patron- 1-0
Gameday- 3-9
Gametime sports- 2-1
Gina- 2-3
Glen Mcgrew- 1-0
GMC- 5-6
Grant Scott- 2-4
Great Lake sports- 3-4
Halfbets.com- 9-4
Helmut- 0-0-1
High Stake Sydicate- 0-1
Hot Picks online- 1-2
Iceman- 1-0
IGZ Sports- 11-16
Indian Cowboy- 13-6-1
Insiders Sports Report- 4-8
JB Sports- 6-6-1
Jeff Benton- 0-2
Jefferson- 19-14-1
Jenkins- 0-1
Jim Feist- 5-6
Jim Hurley- 7-6
Jim Kruger- 1-1
Jimmy Boyd- 1-0
John Fina- 9-4
John Ryan- 1-1
Johnny Guild- 7-8
KB Hoops- 20-15-1
Keith Martin- 0-2
Killer move- 18-20
Kindergarden Capper- 13-7
Kirkwins- 27-25-1
Lances Lock- 3-3
Larry Ness- 22-32-2 YTD
Las Vegas Sports Picks- 22-22-1
Lee Kostroski-16-15-1
Lee Sterling- 0-1
Lenny Del Genio- 9-6
Lenny Stevens-7-6
Lockoftheday.com- 1-3
M&M Sports- 12-10
Maddux- 17-11
Malinsky- 14-23
Marc Lawrence- 10-20 YTD
Marty Otto- 0-2
Matt Fargo- 18-11
Matt Rivers- 2-2
Mike Handelek- 3-2
Mike Lineback- 1-3
Mike Neri- 2-3-1
Millionaire Club- 1-3
Money Maker of My Dollar- 9-6
Mr. A’s- 9-9
Must Win Sports- 0-1
Nationwide- 13-6-2
Nick Parsons- 4-1
Nostradamus- 4-2
NSA- 30-29-1
NY Sports Exchange- 5-0
Opposite Action Play- 1-3
Over the spread.com- 5-2-1
Paul Leiner 8-5
Pete Ezra- 6-8
Philly Conn.- 0-1
Playbook Newsletter- 0-1
Point Wise- 0-2
Power Play wins- 0-2
PPP- 40-36-3 YTD
Primetime sports advisors- 6-4
Profit on Sports- 1-5
Pro Sports Plays- 7-1
Pure Lock- 0-1
Rainman- 1-0
RAS- 20-21-1
Rob Veno- 1-0
Rocketman- 6-6
Ron Raymond- 11-14-1
Roundball- 5-8
Savannah Sports 2-2
Score- 0-2-2
Scott Rickenbach- 19-15
Seabass- 46-46 YTD
Smart Money bets- 5-5
Smooth 44-, 15-15-1
Special K- 7-7
Sports Advisors- 5-8
Sports Analyst- 5-1
Sports Bank- 3-3
Sports Firm- 1-3
Sports investors net- 0-1
Sports reporter- 3-4
Sports Unlimited- 9-4
Stadium Club- 9-7
Stan Sharp- 6-3
Steam online- 1-0
Stephen Nover- 20-18-1
Steve Merrill- 21-13-1
Strike Sports- 7-3
Sunday Selections- 0-2
Syndicate Betting Systems- 18-18-1
System Sport GTD- 1-0
Teddy Sevransky-Covers- 19-11
Teddy June- 7-7-1
Tim Trushel- 2-2
The Animal- 1-4
The Consensus Group- 9-9
The Miller Group- 21-13
The Prez-26-20-2
Tom Stryker- 4-3
Tony Bruno wins- 1-1
Tony George- 0-2
Trace Adams- 2-1
Triple Crown- 0-1
Vegas Sports Experts- 9-15
Vegas Line- 4-7-1
Vegas Runner- 24-16-1
Vernon Croy- 1-1
Victorious Play- 3-0
Vic Monte- 0-1
Wayne Root- 38-28-1 YTD
West Coast Sports- 2-2
Winning Angle- 13-5
Wunderdog- 8-3
Yankee Capper- 9-12
Young guns- 1-4
Youngstown Conn.- 4-4
I am not sure if I am updating Saturdays anymore. Just to many College games to keep track of.
Alatex- 4-10-1
Al Demarco- 1-0
Alex Smart- 17-19
Andre Gomes- 2-5
Andrew Powers- 9-9
Anton Wins- 2-2
Archway- 5-2
Arthur Ralph sports- 2-1
ASA- 8-5
ATS Financial- 6-14
ATS Lock Club- 10-23
ATS Sports Club- 22-27-4
Beat the Bookie- 10-8
Ben Burns- 20-19-2
Betting Kings.com- 2-3-1
Big Al- 23-26-1 YTD
Billy Coleman- 6-18
Blue Wizard- 5-2
Bob Balfe- 7-8-1
Bobby Clarke Sports- 10-12-1
Bobby Marshall- 0-1
Brad Diamond- 1-2
Brandon Lang- 10-9-1 YTD
Brandon Lovell- 4-0
Brassball Picks- 1-0
Bryan Leonard- 13-7
Brent Crow- 1-1
Budin- 1-1
C Stars- 10-12
Cajun Sports Exec- 24-27-1 YTD
California Sports- 12-5
Cappers Access- 7-7
Carlo Campanella- 0-1
Charlie- 25-22
Chicago Sports Conn- 7-6-1
Cogyle- 3-4
Computer Sports- 0-1
Craig Davis-4-7-1
Dave Cokin- 19-18 YTD
David Chan- 19-17
Deano- 9-1
Dennis Hill- 0-1
Destroy the Books- 29-20-2
DJD Of My Dollar 10-7
Doc- 1-2
Doc’s sports- 15-14-1
Donnie Black- 0-2
Dr Bob- 12-15
Dr Guru- 4-2
Dr. Canada- 10-15
East Coast Sports Con.-
Easy Baseball betting- 2-2
Ed Cash- 1-1
Eddie Mush- 17-21
Elite Sports Circle- 2-0
Elite Sports Picks- 0-2
Erin Rynning- 10-4
Ethan Law- 7-7-2
Executive- 4-12-1
Fairway Jay- 1-0
Fast Break- 3-6
Fat Harry-5-4
Ferrell- 5-3
Ferringo- 34-41
Frank Patron- 1-0
Gameday- 3-9
Gametime sports- 2-1
Gina- 2-3
Glen Mcgrew- 1-0
GMC- 5-6
Grant Scott- 2-4
Great Lake sports- 3-4
Halfbets.com- 9-4
Helmut- 0-0-1
High Stake Sydicate- 0-1
Hot Picks online- 1-2
Iceman- 1-0
IGZ Sports- 11-16
Indian Cowboy- 13-6-1
Insiders Sports Report- 4-8
JB Sports- 6-6-1
Jeff Benton- 0-2
Jefferson- 19-14-1
Jenkins- 0-1
Jim Feist- 5-6
Jim Hurley- 7-6
Jim Kruger- 1-1
Jimmy Boyd- 1-0
John Fina- 9-4
John Ryan- 1-1
Johnny Guild- 7-8
KB Hoops- 20-15-1
Keith Martin- 0-2
Killer move- 18-20
Kindergarden Capper- 13-7
Kirkwins- 27-25-1
Lances Lock- 3-3
Larry Ness- 22-32-2 YTD
Las Vegas Sports Picks- 22-22-1
Lee Kostroski-16-15-1
Lee Sterling- 0-1
Lenny Del Genio- 9-6
Lenny Stevens-7-6
Lockoftheday.com- 1-3
M&M Sports- 12-10
Maddux- 17-11
Malinsky- 14-23
Marc Lawrence- 10-20 YTD
Marty Otto- 0-2
Matt Fargo- 18-11
Matt Rivers- 2-2
Mike Handelek- 3-2
Mike Lineback- 1-3
Mike Neri- 2-3-1
Millionaire Club- 1-3
Money Maker of My Dollar- 9-6
Mr. A’s- 9-9
Must Win Sports- 0-1
Nationwide- 13-6-2
Nick Parsons- 4-1
Nostradamus- 4-2
NSA- 30-29-1
NY Sports Exchange- 5-0
Opposite Action Play- 1-3
Over the spread.com- 5-2-1
Paul Leiner 8-5
Pete Ezra- 6-8
Philly Conn.- 0-1
Playbook Newsletter- 0-1
Point Wise- 0-2
Power Play wins- 0-2
PPP- 40-36-3 YTD
Primetime sports advisors- 6-4
Profit on Sports- 1-5
Pro Sports Plays- 7-1
Pure Lock- 0-1
Rainman- 1-0
RAS- 20-21-1
Rob Veno- 1-0
Rocketman- 6-6
Ron Raymond- 11-14-1
Roundball- 5-8
Savannah Sports 2-2
Score- 0-2-2
Scott Rickenbach- 19-15
Seabass- 46-46 YTD
Smart Money bets- 5-5
Smooth 44-, 15-15-1
Special K- 7-7
Sports Advisors- 5-8
Sports Analyst- 5-1
Sports Bank- 3-3
Sports Firm- 1-3
Sports investors net- 0-1
Sports reporter- 3-4
Sports Unlimited- 9-4
Stadium Club- 9-7
Stan Sharp- 6-3
Steam online- 1-0
Stephen Nover- 20-18-1
Steve Merrill- 21-13-1
Strike Sports- 7-3
Sunday Selections- 0-2
Syndicate Betting Systems- 18-18-1
System Sport GTD- 1-0
Teddy Sevransky-Covers- 19-11
Teddy June- 7-7-1
Tim Trushel- 2-2
The Animal- 1-4
The Consensus Group- 9-9
The Miller Group- 21-13
The Prez-26-20-2
Tom Stryker- 4-3
Tony Bruno wins- 1-1
Tony George- 0-2
Trace Adams- 2-1
Triple Crown- 0-1
Vegas Sports Experts- 9-15
Vegas Line- 4-7-1
Vegas Runner- 24-16-1
Vernon Croy- 1-1
Victorious Play- 3-0
Vic Monte- 0-1
Wayne Root- 38-28-1 YTD
West Coast Sports- 2-2
Winning Angle- 13-5
Wunderdog- 8-3
Yankee Capper- 9-12
Young guns- 1-4
Youngstown Conn.- 4-4
I am not sure if I am updating Saturdays anymore. Just to many College games to keep track of.
