i like that Ariz st is coming off a road win at stanford, and their defense is pretty good, and Cal does not have many wins, but at home they have scored well so +4 it is, its about the only way to play it, line did drop just a half pt so its not like the world is on them, if it drops more i will worry i want to win every play...not very good shooting in the 1st 8 mins of the Denver game 41% and 35% they need to pick it up damnit