St. Louis Police: Black Teen Shot In Altercation With Officers

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MSNBC said he was known as a gentle giant - looks like a straight up ghetto thug that steals in open sight under the threat of extreme violence - his ghetto thug friend with the tatted neck has the credibility of OJ - the one girl does seem credible though - so obviously the gentle giant did something to the cop - I would imagine he struck the officer and did try to get his gun - I'm not sure that justifies him tracking him down and shooting him several times though

It's simple - for black people and all people - why go around looking for trouble? some day ur gonna find it - I don't look for trouble - my black friends don't look for trouble - hence, we don't find any trouble

"Don't start none, there won't be none." My buddy tells that to his wife.
 

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Sigh. love racially heated conversations here.

No reason to call people racist / molestors ect..

Stay on subject, dont make things personal.

I'm just as guilty as anybody in this thread for doing that Defying. I apologize to you for that (not Shub, but you I apologize to).

I just hope that you read this thread and realize why I said what I said. I was accused of something and the accuser could not provide one stitch of proof to label me in a negative light. Once everybody realized that this person was full of shit, I should have just let it go.
 

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Is that " The gentle giant" that NBCNews is talking about?

If he was murdered in cold blood, then I hope that there is justice, but I hope that even the simple people can understand that this person is not any type of "hero" or "role model" that people should be rallying around.
 

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What was the issue in the store, who was he pushing? Didn't look like an employee

Read Busters post on the previous page.

I just saw the screencaps earlier today
 

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avg cigar supposed to take like 40 mins off your life

took about 40 years off this dudes....
 

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What was the issue in the store, who was he pushing? Didn't look like an employee

The Gentle Giant and his credible friend asked for $48.99 worth of cigars from behind the counter. After the guy put them on the counter, the two picked the boxes up and just started to walk out of the store without paying. The guy confronted them and Brown grabbed him.

The guy is either the owner or a worker.
 

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yeah I just read 1 AP article really quick cause this stuff doesn't really do it for me but sounds like the dude deserved to die

you can't be trying to wrestle with cops, wtf he thinking
 

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yeah I just read 1 AP article really quick cause this stuff doesn't really do it for me but sounds like the dude deserved to die

you can't be trying to wrestle with cops, wtf he thinking

At this point Pats, I don't agree with you or disagree with you but will wait for the evidence to come out.

There are two parts to this thing. Part 1 took place in the cop car. If there was a struggle and the cop's gun was grabbed for, he deserves to be shot. Part 2 is what took place outside the car. If the kid was shot in the back or with his hands up in obvious surrender mode, the cop is done. I mean shot in the back at a distance as well. He could've been shot in the back at close range and could be justified in that instance.

We'll just wait and see I guess.
 

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I'm wondering what this "Gentle Giant" would have done once he committed the Felony of stealing the Police Officers firearm.

I am going to go out on a limb and say that he may have committed another Felony.



Let's see,.......how could all of this been avoided?......Wow, I wonder.....Could it be the store owner just giving the "Gentle Giant" the merchandise that he was trying to steal?

Could it have been avoided if the Uniformed Police Officer gave up his service weapon and took his chances that this person wouldn't immediately kill him?
 

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I'm just as guilty as anybody in this thread for doing that Defying. I apologize to you for that (not Shub, but you I apologize to).

I just hope that you read this thread and realize why I said what I said. I was accused of something and the accuser could not provide one stitch of proof to label me in a negative light. Once everybody realized that this person was full of shit, I should have just let it go.

you mean your racially charged sarcasm?
 

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you mean your sarcasm?

Is that what makes you say that I applauded an 18 year old child being shot and killed?

BTW, I still haven't seen your proof of me applauding this situation. I guess I'll just keep waiting.....
 

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I'm wondering what this "Gentle Giant" would have done once he committed the Felony of stealing the Police Officers firearm.

I am going to go out on a limb and say that he may have committed another Felony.

Let's see,.......how could all of this been avoided?......Wow, I wonder.....Could it be the store owner just giving the "Gentle Giant" the merchandise that he was trying to steal?

Could it have been avoided if the Uniformed Police Officer gave up his service weapon and took his chances that this person wouldn't immediately kill him?

And all of what you say is valid but even if all true, if the cop shot the kid while he was giving up and his hands were up, none of that previous stuff means anything really.
 

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And all of what you say is valid but even if all true, if the cop shot the kid while he was giving up and his hands were up, none of that previous stuff means anything really.

I couldn't agree more. I've said in previous posts that there should be justice if that's the case.

But let me ask you, how could this situation be avoided? Do you think that maybe this Gentle Giant perhaps set this whole series of events in motion?
 

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yeah this seems pretty cut and dry. Unless the evidence is overwhelming he popped him in the back from distance then the cop probably was just doing his job and dealing with someone clearly of dubious character.

This isn't like the Trayvon thing where regardless of where you stood on the issue, you could atleast acknowledge George Zimmerman was an idiot completely overstepping his boundaries.
 

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I couldn't agree more. I've said in previous posts that there should be justice if that's the case.

But let me ask you, how could this situation be avoided? Do you think that maybe this Gentle Giant perhaps set this whole series of events in motion?

Doesn't really matter though. If all Big Mike did was boost some cigars then that isn't reason enough to be pumped full of lead and have to die.

If he stepped up to the cop and all that jostling for gun stuff happened then he did.
 

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I couldn't agree more. I've said in previous posts that there should be justice if that's the case.

But let me ask you, how could this situation be avoided? Do you think that maybe this Gentle Giant perhaps set this whole series of events in motion?

The situation could've been avoided by two idiots walking on the sidewalk in the first place or complying with what the cop tells you to do.
 

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yeah this seems pretty cut and dry. Unless the evidence is overwhelming he popped him in the back from distance then the cop probably was just doing his job and dealing with someone clearly of dubious character.

This isn't like the Trayvon thing where regardless of where you stood on the issue, you could atleast acknowledge George Zimmerman was an idiot completely overstepping his boundaries.

I think this situation will be resolved by ballistics evidence. It's not like the Martin case at all.
 

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If you are gonna just boost some cigars and casually walkout, you need the owners to fear for their lives and let you do it. Like in the Wire when Marlo took the lollipop and the security guard tried to confront him but knew he couldn't do shit. You need that mafia don respect if your gonna act like that, otherwise people just gonna call the cops....
 

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I said this over at peeps.Most likely scenario in my mind is there was struggle in car for gun and guy was shot and the guy that says he saw him raising his hands was his partner in crime.I think he raised his hands after he was already shot once.That would be a logical thing to do.That is if the guy is telling the truth about him even raising his hands.He evidently is not telling the truth right now because he mentioned nothing about robbing and assaulting a hard working business owner and thought they could take whatever they wanted from him.If the guy did not fall immediately cops keep firing.
 

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