Soccer Ticket - Need Help

[sportsadvisory]

regulation time in soccer = 90 min + 'referee stoppage time' (usually 2-4 min) also called 'injury time'. the 'referee stoppage time' is a part of regulation time and a goal scored in that period, lets say in 93rd minute is officially scored in 90th minute. unfortunatelly your wager is a loser.

overtime in soccer = 2 x 15 min + penalty shots if teams are stil tied.

referee stopage time has nothing to do with overtime.

First off thanks for your help, seriously, but the wager was not specified as "regulation" but rather "90 minutes".

Do you see what I mean?

If they meant "regulation", why did they specify "90 minute"?

If you'll look at their lines they have up for tomorrow, none have the "90 minute" specification.

 

[GreenDoberman]

sorry that is considered a 90th minute goal. You should have known the soccer rules. I take it that you are a newbie at soccer and would have realized added time is considered part of regulation. If you notice once the clock hits 90 it stops, and there is either no clock or a different clock.

Look at it this way, the extra time is taking the place of injuries, substitutions, etc. where in any other sport the clock would stop. In soccer it doesn't, they just add it on at the end at the referee's discretion. So really it was the 90th minute that the goal was scored in.
Sorry, but you have no case, other soccer punters will tell you the same.

Mods please change the thread title, 5dimes in NO WAY stiffed the bettor on this wager.

 

[winbig]

in the rules i see this:

full time = 90 minutes + referee stoppage time.

the goal was scored in the referee stoppage time.

i'm not taking their side. i wager on soccer, i watch soccer, and this rule is clear to me. i think they graded your bet correctly. sorry buddy.

 

[stomie]

These guys can help

 

[sportsadvisory]

<HR style="COLOR: #fdde82" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->in the rules i see this:


full time = 90 minutes + referee stoppage time.

Again, all bets are considered full time UNLESS specified.

So why did they specify this 90 minutes?

You just showed their rule for full time which is not what this wager was about.

 

[stomie]

I posted this question @ sportsadvisory.com and I haven't gotten a response yet

 

[Glaken]

Bet365

Unless stated all markets are settled on the result at the end of normal time (90 minutes unless stated) excluding any extra time. Click on an 'i box' icon to see specific info on a betting market. Members click here to change your default odds format and time zone.

According to this Book your bet should be graded a winner.....unless the extra time is the result of a tie....good job SportsAdvisory, I was gona get some sleep tonight; Now I have to know the deal on the Official Ref Time.

 

[stomie]

Some of the pictures @ sportsadvisory.com got my girlfriend so aroused, please come see her

 

[BaseballGuy]

Actually.. If a goal is scored in overage time it will show scored in the 90th min not the 93rd min.

I think 5dimes screwed up again.

This is twice now in less than 2 months.

 

[Glaken]

I have to say the end result is that your wager is a loser....The injury time, sub time, yellow-red card time, all is on the pocket watch of the Ref...terrible system for a sport that has been around for 800 years and American football lets the viewer know the real time left.

 

[sportsadvisory]

I have to say the end result is that your wager is a loser....The injury time, sub time, yellow-red card time, all is on the pocket watch of the Ref...terrible system for a sport that has been around for 800 years and American football lets the viewer know the real time left.

Yeah, I agree but even the tv announcer proclaimed at the 90 minute mark "of the tv clock" that the game was now official.

I appreciate your help btw.

 

[Glaken]

Stomie = sportsadvisory.com....I think we got it now...Just Kidding, But can you actually believe that they can't keep the time straight at a Soccer game...on the other hand they have fences around the field and riots. Can you imagine going to a Colts game with a fence around the field?...Oh I forgot thats hockey.

 

[sportsadvisory]

Stomie = sportsadvisory.com....I think we got it now...Just Kidding,

Stomie = troll and is in no way connected with my site.

I guess with the recent server change, dot com was added back to my name.

This sort of thing excites dicks like stomie.

 

[Glaken]

Sportsadvisory...no problem...thats what this forumn is about...I learned a thing or two that I didn't know before your thread. Good Luck Tomorrow

You might want to ask the GURU in the Other Sports room about grading Soccer wagers...he knows a bunch, I could still take him 6-0,6-0 and 21-zip at ping pong.

 

[Glaken]

E-mail General at TheGeneral@RX.com and he can fix your user name (.com) issue

 

[Glaken]

OK I finally got an answer from William Hill.....this is the end of the story; sorry.

All odds are subject to fluctuation and amendment and are based on the result at full-time. The terms 'Full-Time', '90 minutes play' and 'normal time' are all used to denote the period of play which includes time added by match officials for stoppages, but not scheduled extra time, penalty shoot-outs etc. Settlement will be at the price prevailing at the time the bet was placed and confirmed.

http://www.willhill.com/iibs/EN/allsportsandcoupons.asp?sport=FB Hit the How do I use this page button and type in soccer rules in the search window.

 

[sportsadvisory]

Thanks for your dilligent research.

I'm still not happy though and I hope 5Dimes (which I still consider my favorite book) considers never stipulating 90 minutes again when we are already told that every match is graded at the "full time" mark unless otherwise stipulated.. There was just no need to add the "90 minute" stipulation which at the very least encourages confusion.

Thanks again mate.

 

[Glaken]

It was my pleasure as I learned something, too...I expect 5 Dimwits will update and edit their Soccer rules page. BTW don't worry about the SA.com site; I checked it out - low band width and hasn't been updated in 9 days. Might want to change your user name, though. Later

 

[Halifax]

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[GreenDoberman]

Still wondering why the thread title has not been changed. If this was an advertised book, it certainly would be. The book was right, I feel bad for SA if he was confused as to the wording. And wherever it said 92nd minute goal was scored, that is simply an error according to proper soccer/football scoring. A goal scored in the 92nd minute would have to occur in a game that went to overtime.
Those who don't bet soccer regularly may be confused with the terms overtime, extra time, added time, and injury time. My suggestion would be do a little research so you understand the meaning of them. Sometimes they mean different than they would in American sports.
Once again sorry you lost your bet, but you did so legitimately within the results of the game, not due to some book's underhandedness.:EEK: