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Big difference between innocent and not guilty.
 
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Oh, and by the way idiot, he's not innocent by law.

The civil law found him liable for the deaths and
a judgement of $33.5 million was awarded against him.

Doesn't sound innocent "under the law" to me. hmmm?

Criminal law is very clear... It has absolutely nothing to do with civil judgements.

You will lose hands down challenging me on anything regarding law because i have infinitely more experience than you do as is shown in this pathetic argument.

Even in the civil suit, he was not found guilty of any murder!!! There is no civil court that can ever find any person guilty of murder because there are no murder trials in civil court and there will never be a day where we have a murder trial in a civil court. If that simple concept sank in your feeble mind you would know this.

Son do yourself a favor and read up something, anything about civil law and criminal law before you come on here embarrassing yourself talking about shit you dont know.
 
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Big difference between innocent and not guilty.


sorry, thats a personal opinion. And the law does not deal in that.

NOt guilty is one 110% innocent in any court.

Learn to separate your personal opinion from actual law.

(I could care less about this topic, its tired and its old. What amuses me is the number of mental midgets who know nothing about law that choose to speak up about issues that get them so emotional so that every one and any one who states simple factual truths becomes hated and riled by those who believe we should all join their mob mentality, ignore law and go down to the Las vegas jail house they are holding OJ in and hang him on a street light)
 

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Not really. And trust me, I know the law, been involved with it for over 15 years.

Juries never find defendants innocent. They cannot do so because they can only find them not guilty.

A verdict of not guilty can mean a verdict of not proven. Even if you personally believe the defendant is guilty, but the state does not prove it beyond a reasonable doubt, then it is required of you to find the defendant not guilty.
 
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Criminal law is very clear... It has absolutely nothing to do with civil judgements.

You will lose hands down challenging me on anything regarding law because i have infinitely more experience than you do as is shown in this pathetic argument.

Even in the civil suit, he was not found guilty of any murder!!! There is no civil court that can ever find any person guilty of murder because there are no murder trials in civil court and there will never be a day where we have a murder trial in a civil court. If that simple concept sank in your feeble mind you would know this.

Son do yourself a favor and read up something, anything about civil law and criminal law before you come on here embarrassing yourself talking about shit you dont know.

hey asshole. I know exactly what I'm talking about, and everything I
said was true. Notice I didn't say guilty, I said liable.

You said he was "innocent by law." I challenged that, and I am right.
He was found innocent under a circus criminal trial. But he
was definitely found liable under the civil code.

Also I challenged you on your fking bullshit mock trial lie, and
of course you can't back it up because it's total bullshit.

Balls in your court bitch.
 

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He can't back it up. There is a difference between not guilty and innoncent and plenty of documentation to back it up. Let's see if he can actually admit that he is wrong.
 

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oh crap had to edit because the issue of the gun holder has already been addressed.

On that note, i am a strong supporter of our criminal code. It dictates that OJ is not guilty of any murder. He was tried in a criminal court and has since then been tried in multiple mock trials in some of our most accredited law schools in the country. None of which has ever come back with a guilty verdict using the very same evidence used in the real trial.


People are welcome to speculate about this crime, but i choose to follow the law. The man is innocent by law and thats all i have to say about that.:drink:

You got to be kidding me? Oj is so guilty is it not even funny. The blood evidence is so overwhelming it is laughable. You get zero credibility with this.
 

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This was obviously a set up... come on, they just so happened to have a recorder to record everything going on?
They could of had camera's, table dancer's and whatever else in the room. The fact of the matter is that he still supposedly commited a crime. He is all done. Say bye bye to the murder guy.
 
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Not really. And trust me, I know the law, been involved with it for over 15 years.

Juries never find defendants innocent. They cannot do so because they can only find them not guilty.

A verdict of not guilty can mean a verdict of not proven. Even if you personally believe the defendant is guilty, but the state does not prove it beyond a reasonable doubt, then it is required of you to find the defendant not guilty.


Fine with me...change it to "not guilty".... (thats until your run into the general idea respected by every single court in the country that every single suspect in any crime is innocent until proven guilty by law.)

By default if you are not found guilty the oustanding presumption of innocence stands. (very simple law my 15 year long student of the law.)
 

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Mark Furman was bought off by OJ and his boy's to help fuk the whole thing up in OJ's favor. Just look at all the stupid and obvious mistakes he made.Hmmmmmm makes you wonder. You did a good job Marky boy.
 

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Again, I knew you couldn't admit you were wrong. Oh well, some people don't have the balls to admit it.

I won't even waste my time with pasting any articles proving your wrong because it would be a waste of time.
 
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You got to be kidding me? Oj is so guilty is it not even funny. The blood evidence is so overwhelming it is laughable. You get zero credibility with this.

Little man, do yourself a favor and skip this thread. Go to the rubber room and find something more on your level.

NO one is here to try OJ for murder...

I have simply stated the facts as they are..

OJ IS NOT GUILTY BY LAW

ITs a very simple concept that i know you simply cant comprehend because you are an emotional mental midget that doesnt even understand the laws of the very constitution that protects him.
 

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Little man, do yourself a favor and skip this thread. Go to the rubber room and find something more on your level.

NO one is here to try OJ for murder...

I have simply stated the facts as they are..

OJ IS NOT GUILTY BY LAW

ITs a very simple concept that i know you simply cant comprehend because you are an emotional mental midget that doesnt even understand the laws of the very constitution that protects him.


It is obvious you do not understand the facts you genius you:

He butchered two people and should hang!

Chump!
 
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No you little bitch ass. stop lying like the little cock sucker you are.
this is your exact post...

Oh, and by the way idiot, he's not innocent by law.

The civil law found him liable for the deaths and
a judgement of $33.5 million was awarded against him.

Doesn't sound innocent "under the law" to me. hmmm?

These are the words that came out of your cock smoker and you little dick monkey, i dont see any of the shit you claim you said.

I dont see the word liable or shit like that...

But being the dumbass you are, i didnt expect anything less. You probably figured i would be too stupid to copy and repaste your own words to prove what an idiot you are.
 
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It is obvious you do not understand the facts you genius you:

He butchered two people and should hang!

Chump!


good you have shown us with this very strong argument..

Off to the rubber room to find nakkid pictures of women...go on little boy,
let the grown ups talk.hola hola hola
 

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Here you go commie, I think maybe you do need help after all.

A legal analogy: Guilty or not guilty?

The statistical concept of 'significant' vs. 'not significant' can be understood by comparing to the legal concept of 'guilty' vs. 'not guilty'.

In the American legal system (and much of the world) a criminal defendant is presumed innocent until proven guilty. If the evidence proves the defendant guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, the verdict is 'guilty'. Otherwise the verdict is 'not guilty'. In some countries, this verdict is 'not proven', which is a better description. A 'not guilty' verdict does not mean the judge or jury concluded that the defendant is innocent -- it just means that the evidence was not strong enough to persuade the judge or jury that the defendant was guilty.

In statistical hypothesis testing, you start with the null hypothesis (usually that there is no difference between groups). If the evidence produces a small enough P value, you reject that null hypothesis, and conclude that the difference is real. If the P value is higher than your threshold (usually 0.05), you don't reject the null hypothesis. This doesn't mean the evidence convinced you that the treatment had no effect, only that the evidence was not persuasive enough to convince you that there is an effect.
 
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Here you go commie, I think maybe you do need help after all.

A legal analogy: Guilty or not guilty?

The statistical concept of 'significant' vs. 'not significant' can be understood by comparing to the legal concept of 'guilty' vs. 'not guilty'.

In the American legal system (and much of the world) a criminal defendant is presumed innocent until proven guilty. If the evidence proves the defendant guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, the verdict is 'guilty'. Otherwise the verdict is 'not guilty'. In some countries, this verdict is 'not proven', which is a better description. A 'not guilty' verdict does not mean the judge or jury concluded that the defendant is innocent -- it just means that the evidence was not strong enough to persuade the judge or jury that the defendant was guilty.

In statistical hypothesis testing, you start with the null hypothesis (usually that there is no difference between groups). If the evidence produces a small enough P value, you reject that null hypothesis, and conclude that the difference is real. If the P value is higher than your threshold (usually 0.05), you don't reject the null hypothesis. This doesn't mean the evidence convinced you that the treatment had no effect, only that the evidence was not persuasive enough to convince you that there is an effect.


thats why its referred to as a "presumption"...


But lets not get caught up in a meaningless war of words..(or may be meaningful to you but not to me because i really dont give a rats ass about OJ...

Lets simply agree that he is "NOT GUILTY BY LAW" since thats what the jurors actually declared.

There you are, you are right i am wrong. Oj is not innocent but he is also NOt guilty by law.

thanks
 

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Cool. I wasn't trying to get into a pissing match with you. I was just standing by my earlier assertion about the difference between the 2.
 

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