This is just confusing either way... Was very close to posting up them but this in uncertainty Doesn't help... Even if nothing at all is wrong with 1vice this puts a question in my mind. Offshore is fraught with risk and we are just looking for a safe outlet. When posters like Nes and boat and others say the book is strong I would tend to trust this. But the vague and unspecific posts from mods throws doubt on the situation.
Plus this censorship issue is really starting to become a little smothering. I really try and be objective and never trash RX because it really is a great site. But come on now. Moving a discussion about a book that includes some very knowledgable people is going way to far IMO.
We are all big boys. Stop closing the door like our parents and try and prevent us from hearing bad things.
Plus this censorship issue is really starting to become a little smothering. I really try and be objective and never trash RX because it really is a great site. But come on now. Moving a discussion about a book that includes some very knowledgable people is going way to far IMO.
We are all big boys. Stop closing the door like our parents and try and prevent us from hearing bad things.
for those wondering why it was moved to the RR is ,and I am assuming here, because the outright personal attack/ name calling. Hache could have deleted it, instead moved it here.....
I actually removed it because even here I think it's unfair to speak to anyone like that, even more so in this case....
As far as 1vice is concerned, I play there and there's no worries about my money at all. They have legitimate backers... As far as my knowledge, and I think Hache said the same, it has nothing to do with the financial well being of 1vice.
I actually removed it because even here I think it's unfair to speak to anyone like that, even more so in this case....
As far as 1vice is concerned, I play there and there's no worries about my money at all. They have legitimate backers... As far as my knowledge, and I think Hache said the same, it has nothing to do with the financial well being of 1vice.
Defying what was the personal attack that was so vicious that it warranted deletion and or moving??? NES saying that HACHE was a POS?? Yes agree that is not called for...But dude this is a sports gambling forum filled with risk takers drven by testosterone...I just dont understand why the second debates get a little heated we have to scrub it all nice and clean again...
Men argue and curse at each other. This is life. If you guys ran a sports bar or a casino like this it would be empty. I am sure Hache can handle NES comments and he can always choose to ignore if he doesnt like it....
Are we supposed to act like a PG-13 group at all times? You guys are being way too sensitive. Heated debates are the best debates.
Men argue and curse at each other. This is life. If you guys ran a sports bar or a casino like this it would be empty. I am sure Hache can handle NES comments and he can always choose to ignore if he doesnt like it....
Are we supposed to act like a PG-13 group at all times? You guys are being way too sensitive. Heated debates are the best debates.
If someone called you a POS, you would not think a thing of it??
If it was ANYONE I would of deleted it. RX has taken a position of allowing more to be said... But I am not going to let anyone call anyone a POS. If I was at a bar, and I was the bartender (which I have been) and I heard one customer call another a POS, I would do something about it.
There is one thing to have a disagreement, its entirely different to be disrespectful. That's how things get out of hand.
of course I would react and defend myself if someone said that to me...they have, and I have before on this site..I defintely would not need or want you to do that for me....But I guess this is subjective bc what you think is over the top I may not...Let me just say this to you Defying. You are a good dude but you are too heavy handed with your power here...
your stifling good expression and conversation.. NES, boat, Try, these guys know WAY more than me or you about this industry and I for one want to hear what they have to say without edits or deletions....
And here is another reason you dont move this conversation...Take Steak Tartar...he DEFINITELY knows way more than anyone on this topic but who knows if he spends time looking in the RR....If he has something to add I would love to hear it...
your stifling good expression and conversation.. NES, boat, Try, these guys know WAY more than me or you about this industry and I for one want to hear what they have to say without edits or deletions....
And here is another reason you dont move this conversation...Take Steak Tartar...he DEFINITELY knows way more than anyone on this topic but who knows if he spends time looking in the RR....If he has something to add I would love to hear it...
I didn't edit anything besides that comment and hache response.. NOTHING of substance was took out...
I like NES from what I know, but NOTHING can get accomplished by calling someone a name like that.. It's disrespectful. It's not like I am editting or covering up information...
And I cannot do anything but smile at being called heavy handed... maybe as a bartender, but not as a mod. I edit or delete less than 1 post a week. Ill always edit something racist.... or blatant disrespect.. if that makes me heavy handed, then fine but I would disagree
I like NES from what I know, but NOTHING can get accomplished by calling someone a name like that.. It's disrespectful. It's not like I am editting or covering up information...
And I cannot do anything but smile at being called heavy handed... maybe as a bartender, but not as a mod. I edit or delete less than 1 post a week. Ill always edit something racist.... or blatant disrespect.. if that makes me heavy handed, then fine but I would disagree
ahh, All the Action happens when I'm off :grandmais
As you can see I made the text above in Bold.
In Most cases you Really Can't take 100% what NES says ... But over the Years he has Grown Up. ( I even told him so, not too long ago )
Anyway, the Reason I made those words in Bold is because NES knows the Owner of the Parent Group of 1Vice.
Plus he spends More time at Places that they Own .....
So I would say he is a Little bias on This Subject. ( Don't think he would deny this )
But by All means I am Not saying that NES is lying when he says 1Vice is Fine.
It's just that he is Bias.
Ok, Now that we Got that out of the Way.......
The Problem that some of you guys have.... You Just LOVE the Forum Drama !
and as Most know, the RX has Never been big on "Forum Drama"
ohhh, BAS Deleted the Thread...... or threw it in the Back room, etc.
Here is the Thread , and it has NOT been Edited, Deleted or even Moved
http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=898800
And the Above thread had NOTHING to do with 1Vice coming down as a Sponsor
* Just More "Forum Drama"
As you can see in the above Thread. All I said was I AM THE WRONG PERSON TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
PLUS, WRONG WAY TO TALK ABOUT IT.
and that HE ( Griffin ) KNOWS WHAT and WHO to Talk to.
It really wasn't hard to understand. Did I Give Detail's on an Open Forum ?? NO
that was why I posted WRONG WAY to bring this up.
And Griffin Was Contacted by RX management BEFORE they were taken Down.
He was Told what he needed to do, but he Chose to Play Dumb on the Forum and Use YOU the Posters as ammunition against the RX.
He asked in the Above Thread for an HONEST Answer. and that Everyone deserves one.
I Don't think he would Like the RX Management to Post, Out in the Open Forum
what the Problem is.
I Know I wouldn't.......and True or Not.... I would be doing whatever I have to, to Prove that it is Not True.
I said My 2 cents (<)<
From what I know about Griffin he seems like a good guy. I'd bet that if Griff did mess up it wasn't intentional. He's human and human's have been known to make mistakes.
I'm also guessing that the management/owner of the RX is over reacting to something Griffin did. I'd bet that it was something small.
I'm sure the truth will eventually come out. It wouldn't surprise me if it's something petty.
Forum Drama??? Wanting to know the details about a former sponsor who came and went in lightning fast time and why a mod moves posts from them is loving drama??? Please think about what you are saying here for a minute. Have I EVER been the type to get on here and talk bad about industry people to get drama going???
All I want to know is what is a safe book and what isnt. You guys have ALL the information and it's like pulling teeth to get you to release it to the herd...
Never can be right in a conversation with a mod because you have the info and if you choose to say you are done talking about a subject I guess thats the end of it.
So if you are not a high level offshore guy, a 20 year industry vet, or a moderator with inside info just sit back and know your role...Got it
All I want to know is what is a safe book and what isnt. You guys have ALL the information and it's like pulling teeth to get you to release it to the herd...
Never can be right in a conversation with a mod because you have the info and if you choose to say you are done talking about a subject I guess thats the end of it.
So if you are not a high level offshore guy, a 20 year industry vet, or a moderator with inside info just sit back and know your role...Got it
It has to be something petty that Griffin did. The RX has over reacted and any drama in this thread has been caused by the RX's failure to disclose what was so terrible about Griffin's actions.
Gmenknicks, you are right. They were a sponsor and suddenly threads and banner's are removed. You deserve an explanation of what happened.
Any drama is due to the RX mods skirting the issue of what happened.
Gmenknicks, you are right. They were a sponsor and suddenly threads and banner's are removed. You deserve an explanation of what happened.
Any drama is due to the RX mods skirting the issue of what happened.
