JP, you hit it on the head. Until it is proven that there is a problem there can be no solution. I agree some things could be done better or cleaner ...or whatever. The Earth is a living planet and has gone through much worse in it's 4-5 billion years. How messed up was it in the ice age and the various blackout periods. It always repairs itself. The ozone repairs itself also.
I must digress.
The half mile canyons I walk and climb in In Scotland were gouged out by 1 mile deep ice glaciers 10,000 years ago, just like the upper areas of N.America.
Temperature changes have removed them, we hardly see any decent snow now.
Additional temperature changes will change other things, with or without our interference.
The half mile canyons I walk and climb in In Scotland were gouged out by 1 mile deep ice glaciers 10,000 years ago, just like the upper areas of N.America.
Temperature changes have removed them, we hardly see any decent snow now.
Additional temperature changes will change other things, with or without our interference.
Who is to say we are not entering a 'ice age'? Sometimes I listen to coast to coast which is very out there and they had a guy on there who proposes that very thing. www.iceagenow.com is this guys site and just starting to read it. Some snow in Ventura would be nice, it hasn't since 1949.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> The United States east of the Rocky Mountains will see extreme cold in the next two to three weeks with at least one forecaster calling it the coldest in 25 years, meteorologists said on Tuesday. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Global warming is causing this extreme cold and all these blizzards we've been getting the last 10 years or so. I know it sounds ass-backwards, but you have to be educated somewhat in meteorology in order to understand why.
Global warming is causing this extreme cold and all these blizzards we've been getting the last 10 years or so. I know it sounds ass-backwards, but you have to be educated somewhat in meteorology in order to understand why.
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Parts of Europe and North America could get drastically colder if warming Atlantic Ocean currents are halted by a surprise side effect of global warming, scientists said Wednesday.
The possible shutdown of the Gulf Stream is one of several catastrophic changes -- ranging from collapses of fish stocks to more frequent forest fires -- that could be triggered by human activities, they said in a book launched in Sweden.
Climate models indicated a surge of fresh water into the North Atlantic from a melting of northern glaciers caused by global warming could stop the current that sweeps warm waters from the Gulf of Mexico toward Europe.
Parts of Europe and North America could get drastically colder if warming Atlantic Ocean currents are halted by a surprise side effect of global warming, scientists said Wednesday.
The possible shutdown of the Gulf Stream is one of several catastrophic changes -- ranging from collapses of fish stocks to more frequent forest fires -- that could be triggered by human activities, they said in a book launched in Sweden.
Climate models indicated a surge of fresh water into the North Atlantic from a melting of northern glaciers caused by global warming could stop the current that sweeps warm waters from the Gulf of Mexico toward Europe.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Banned4Life:
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,61998,00.html?tw=wn_techhead_17
Parts of Europe and North America could get drastically colder if warming Atlantic Ocean currents are halted by a surprise side effect of global warming, scientists said Wednesday.
The possible shutdown of the Gulf Stream is one of several catastrophic changes -- ranging from collapses of fish stocks to more frequent forest fires -- that could be triggered by human activities, they said in a book launched in Sweden.
Climate models indicated a surge of fresh water into the North Atlantic from a melting of northern glaciers caused by global warming could stop the current that sweeps warm waters from the Gulf of Mexico toward Europe.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Lots of 'could's' in that statement. Climate models are a joke.
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,61998,00.html?tw=wn_techhead_17
Parts of Europe and North America could get drastically colder if warming Atlantic Ocean currents are halted by a surprise side effect of global warming, scientists said Wednesday.
The possible shutdown of the Gulf Stream is one of several catastrophic changes -- ranging from collapses of fish stocks to more frequent forest fires -- that could be triggered by human activities, they said in a book launched in Sweden.
Climate models indicated a surge of fresh water into the North Atlantic from a melting of northern glaciers caused by global warming could stop the current that sweeps warm waters from the Gulf of Mexico toward Europe.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Lots of 'could's' in that statement. Climate models are a joke.
'Climate models are a joke.'
Amen to that. Any ststistician worth his calculator would tell you that the amount of reliable weather data we have (100 years or so) is statistically insignificant in measuring temperature trends given the hundred centuries that have passed since the last major ice age.
Amen to that. Any ststistician worth his calculator would tell you that the amount of reliable weather data we have (100 years or so) is statistically insignificant in measuring temperature trends given the hundred centuries that have passed since the last major ice age.
