<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by docdekay:
Dante
The actual amount won is overrated when it comes to being kicked out. If you're constantly beating a shop to a number, even if you're in the red, you'll be kicked out.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
thanks Doc for that info...good post
Dante
The actual amount won is overrated when it comes to being kicked out. If you're constantly beating a shop to a number, even if you're in the red, you'll be kicked out.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
thanks Doc for that info...good post
I was betting on the horses at a certain book last year. After I was up about $11,000 all of a sudden a get this message when I log on that my limit has been cut to $100 per bet (up to that point I was betting $200). Well, then I promptly go on a losing streak elsewhere. The book could have recouped some of their losses if they had allowed me to bet my normal amount. I guess it is sort of like a stock market investor selling his stock in a panic at the lows, only to see the stock turn around and climb higher the next week.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Luca Brasi:
My lawyer used to tell me, when he would decline certain cases, "A lawyer is not a bus. I don't have to stop and pick you up."
Always thought that cut to the heart of the matter......<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
LMAO
That reminds me of Dicky's mom. She comes storming over at 3 AM and flips out because I was with Dicky's wife ...
all I could say was, "Take a number, bitch."
My lawyer used to tell me, when he would decline certain cases, "A lawyer is not a bus. I don't have to stop and pick you up."
Always thought that cut to the heart of the matter......<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
LMAO
That reminds me of Dicky's mom. She comes storming over at 3 AM and flips out because I was with Dicky's wife ...
all I could say was, "Take a number, bitch."
Comparison to a book continuing to feast off of losers but booting winners would be me playing poker with one of you fellas, winning $25,000 off of you within a 2 hour span, and then say "Well, Ive gotta get going guys, I have a few things to do......see ya"........cowardly
books that do that are chickenshit!
books that boot winners should then also boot out people who lose. if you lose, say, 10 bets in a row, they should then boot you out so you don't lose any more money to them.
think they would ever do that? me, neither. books that boot people for winning are losers!
books that boot winners should then also boot out people who lose. if you lose, say, 10 bets in a row, they should then boot you out so you don't lose any more money to them.
think they would ever do that? me, neither. books that boot people for winning are losers!
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JimFiestSux:
RSS,
How much did you win?? Was it the first few bets you made there?? What shop booted you??<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Was not quite the first bets I made there.... The amount I won was not super big either. It's just that I beat them to the number a lot(almost every day when I bet under in the Jazz in first half and over in second half this past season and steam action would move the lines a lot in my favor). I also did win a decent % in college basketball(added games).
RSS,
How much did you win?? Was it the first few bets you made there?? What shop booted you??<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Was not quite the first bets I made there.... The amount I won was not super big either. It's just that I beat them to the number a lot(almost every day when I bet under in the Jazz in first half and over in second half this past season and steam action would move the lines a lot in my favor). I also did win a decent % in college basketball(added games).
It is no different than casino's refusing service on card counters or bonus machine players. But in all fairness if you saw a show on tv some card counters lost back some winnings. Just think about this sportsbooks such as CRIS, Pinnacle and Grande have a bunch of wiseguys playing into them if sharp money always won they would be bankrupt.
I have a big problem with some of the books who have limited me online. Let's start with the most extreme case which is William Hills.
1. Probably the highest market cap & turnover of any bookmaker in the world, certainly in the UK.
2. A profitable internet wing.
3. Regularly publicise big bets they have taken, such as £100,000 on England to win the 2002 soccer World Cup.
I have requested that they increase my limit such that my maximum win is £200 - which is just under $400. Answer no, in fact if they let me have £50 that is a reuslt on most sports.
So I increasingly use Betfair since I can pretty well always get a decent bet down.
WHAT REALLY PISSES ME OFF is that Hills and the other UK books are doing their best to get the activities of Betfair & other exchanges reduced.
The worst thing is that the UK Gvt. are partly buying this drivel. So sharp guys end up with the big books giving us joke sized bets, plus trying to close down the only folk that don't give us this miserable treatment.
One major exception is Ladbrokes. My max. bet is around £225 on most sports. I notice that they quite often move their lines just after I bet on them.
That is what I would do if I was a book. Flag the accounts of sharps, and if a bunch of them bet the same line within say 10 minutes, I know to move the line. If I am really smart, let's make it a BIG move to get unbalanced action on the other side of the line, which the book is now confident has a decent chance of losing.
1. Probably the highest market cap & turnover of any bookmaker in the world, certainly in the UK.
2. A profitable internet wing.
3. Regularly publicise big bets they have taken, such as £100,000 on England to win the 2002 soccer World Cup.
I have requested that they increase my limit such that my maximum win is £200 - which is just under $400. Answer no, in fact if they let me have £50 that is a reuslt on most sports.
So I increasingly use Betfair since I can pretty well always get a decent bet down.
WHAT REALLY PISSES ME OFF is that Hills and the other UK books are doing their best to get the activities of Betfair & other exchanges reduced.
The worst thing is that the UK Gvt. are partly buying this drivel. So sharp guys end up with the big books giving us joke sized bets, plus trying to close down the only folk that don't give us this miserable treatment.
One major exception is Ladbrokes. My max. bet is around £225 on most sports. I notice that they quite often move their lines just after I bet on them.
That is what I would do if I was a book. Flag the accounts of sharps, and if a bunch of them bet the same line within say 10 minutes, I know to move the line. If I am really smart, let's make it a BIG move to get unbalanced action on the other side of the line, which the book is now confident has a decent chance of losing.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I think it's foolish to boot winners and it's no wonder that the elite books don't do that.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Indeed I am waiting for the first client to be booted from BetFair.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>If you know for sure that a certain customer is operating at a positive EV, just follow his plays for higher amounts elsewhere.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Books that have the honour of dealing with guys that have some 10% return on investment, will do this, but these days many books are not dealing with winners thanks to their handicapping, but thanks to arbitrage.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Very simple. Or if he's picking off your soft lines, get your act together and stop hanging so many soft lines.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Obviously you are right, but lines can sometimes move very fast and often a book can then be the next one in queue to get his line taken by some scalper, middler, etc.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>One major exception is Ladbrokes. My max. bet is around £225 on most sports. I notice that they quite often move their lines just after I bet on them.
That is what I would do if I was a book. Flag the accounts of sharps, and if a bunch of them bet the same line within say 10 minutes, I know to move the line. If I am really smart, let's make it a BIG move to get unbalanced action on the other side of the line, which the book is now confident has a decent chance of losing.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
peskypup,
Can we make a deal that you will put the money on the other side of what I would like to bet on? Ladbrokes on their Asian handicaps does sometimes take huge bets.
Indeed I am waiting for the first client to be booted from BetFair.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>If you know for sure that a certain customer is operating at a positive EV, just follow his plays for higher amounts elsewhere.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Books that have the honour of dealing with guys that have some 10% return on investment, will do this, but these days many books are not dealing with winners thanks to their handicapping, but thanks to arbitrage.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Very simple. Or if he's picking off your soft lines, get your act together and stop hanging so many soft lines.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Obviously you are right, but lines can sometimes move very fast and often a book can then be the next one in queue to get his line taken by some scalper, middler, etc.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>One major exception is Ladbrokes. My max. bet is around £225 on most sports. I notice that they quite often move their lines just after I bet on them.
That is what I would do if I was a book. Flag the accounts of sharps, and if a bunch of them bet the same line within say 10 minutes, I know to move the line. If I am really smart, let's make it a BIG move to get unbalanced action on the other side of the line, which the book is now confident has a decent chance of losing.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
peskypup,
Can we make a deal that you will put the money on the other side of what I would like to bet on? Ladbrokes on their Asian handicaps does sometimes take huge bets.
