Brooks was overrated eh,lol?
Wil- I was comparing Bowa to Jeter since they are the shortstops in this comparison...ARod/Schmidt probably a tossup...But Jeter has to get the edge over Bowa...Jeter is underrated as a hitter, what is Jeter lifetime .315 maybe? Off the top of my head I doubt Bowa was .275...
Wil- I was comparing Bowa to Jeter since they are the shortstops in this comparison...ARod/Schmidt probably a tossup...But Jeter has to get the edge over Bowa...Jeter is underrated as a hitter, what is Jeter lifetime .315 maybe? Off the top of my head I doubt Bowa was .275...
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kodiak7:
Brooks Robinson and Ozzie Smith the FINEST DEFENSIVE SS/3B ever...
The GREATEST Complete 3B and SS ever though are A-ROD and GEORGE BRETT...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
In my 43 year old life, I would agree with this.
Ever, I couldnt say for sure.
Brooks Robinson and Ozzie Smith the FINEST DEFENSIVE SS/3B ever...
The GREATEST Complete 3B and SS ever though are A-ROD and GEORGE BRETT...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
In my 43 year old life, I would agree with this.
Ever, I couldnt say for sure.
There goes Kodiak again jacking up the Michigan teams/players....He adds about 25% to his home town teams...The only bigger 'homer' may be Journeyman talking about his Baltimore teams lol...
What next Fish will come in saying Jerry Remy was top 5 at 2nd base lol?
Trammell/Whitaker were great though, but not best ever
What next Fish will come in saying Jerry Remy was top 5 at 2nd base lol?
Trammell/Whitaker were great though, but not best ever
For Fishhead - A letter from a young Dwight Evans fan.
I was 7 or 8 years old and I was at Fenway with a friend. I was close enough to the Pesky Pole to spit on it. It wasn't my first game at Fenway but it's the game I like to remember the way you'd remember your first. It was special.
I saw the game, I don't remember who was playing and I don't even remember who won. What I remember is Dwight Evans.
There was a man on second and I'm pretty sure there was an out or two. The game was definitely close. I didn't really see the swing being as short as I was back then but I remember seeing a wormburner of a hit. It touched ground for the first time as it passed the first baseman and rolled right past Dewey into the corner. Unfortunately he had been cheating a bit toward left so he didn't exactly get to the ball in record time. It felt like it was sitting in that corner only feet away for hours. Either that runner on second was the slowest runner in history or time stopped just for the Red Sox because when Evans picked up that ball he still had a chance.
I could hear him grunt when he threw it. It was the sound of a cannon being fired.
The runner never had a chance. The catcher had the ball while the runner was still a step and a half away. I don't think that toss had any arc on it whatsoever. It was the greatest throw I've ever seen in my life.
I'm sure I'll never see another like it again.
I was 7 or 8 years old and I was at Fenway with a friend. I was close enough to the Pesky Pole to spit on it. It wasn't my first game at Fenway but it's the game I like to remember the way you'd remember your first. It was special.
I saw the game, I don't remember who was playing and I don't even remember who won. What I remember is Dwight Evans.
There was a man on second and I'm pretty sure there was an out or two. The game was definitely close. I didn't really see the swing being as short as I was back then but I remember seeing a wormburner of a hit. It touched ground for the first time as it passed the first baseman and rolled right past Dewey into the corner. Unfortunately he had been cheating a bit toward left so he didn't exactly get to the ball in record time. It felt like it was sitting in that corner only feet away for hours. Either that runner on second was the slowest runner in history or time stopped just for the Red Sox because when Evans picked up that ball he still had a chance.
I could hear him grunt when he threw it. It was the sound of a cannon being fired.
The runner never had a chance. The catcher had the ball while the runner was still a step and a half away. I don't think that toss had any arc on it whatsoever. It was the greatest throw I've ever seen in my life.
I'm sure I'll never see another like it again.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by wilheim:
I swear I will come through this computer screen and strangle anyone who says Lou Whitaker was better than Joe Morgan.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
wil, if i say sandberg was just as good as morgan, will you come over for a beer during march madness?
I swear I will come through this computer screen and strangle anyone who says Lou Whitaker was better than Joe Morgan.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
wil, if i say sandberg was just as good as morgan, will you come over for a beer during march madness?
Thanks Wil
On a personal note, I tried to mold myself after Dwight as a rightfielder.
I studied his every move in RF and eventually became a pretty solid defensive RF myself with a pretty decent arm if I do say so myself.
Not to boost, but just to give you an idea of the impact he had on my life, I played baseball in Jr college and less than 30 days after the season completed I went for a tryout with the White Sox at one of those local mini-camps.
The only reason I went was I always had heard that the coaches looked for players with speed and a good arm.
Well, I actually had a VERY GOOD arm and a tad above average speed. There were over 300 people that day that tried out and out of all those only this guy that hit the ball 600 feet and I were actually offerred free agent contracts to sign with the team and join the A league in Sarasota.
I knew I had ZERO chance of making it to the bigs and about a .001% chance of making it to AAA, so with the meager salary they were offering at the time, I declined.
As we discussing earlier in this thread about greatness and how you cannot compare greatness................well NOBODY ever had a BETTER all-around throwing arm than DEWEY when you factored in EVERYTHING about what constitutes a great throwing arm.
EVERY COACH SHOULD RUN FILM OF HIM TO THEIR PLAYERS.
On a personal note, I tried to mold myself after Dwight as a rightfielder.
I studied his every move in RF and eventually became a pretty solid defensive RF myself with a pretty decent arm if I do say so myself.
Not to boost, but just to give you an idea of the impact he had on my life, I played baseball in Jr college and less than 30 days after the season completed I went for a tryout with the White Sox at one of those local mini-camps.
The only reason I went was I always had heard that the coaches looked for players with speed and a good arm.
Well, I actually had a VERY GOOD arm and a tad above average speed. There were over 300 people that day that tried out and out of all those only this guy that hit the ball 600 feet and I were actually offerred free agent contracts to sign with the team and join the A league in Sarasota.
I knew I had ZERO chance of making it to the bigs and about a .001% chance of making it to AAA, so with the meager salary they were offering at the time, I declined.
As we discussing earlier in this thread about greatness and how you cannot compare greatness................well NOBODY ever had a BETTER all-around throwing arm than DEWEY when you factored in EVERYTHING about what constitutes a great throwing arm.
EVERY COACH SHOULD RUN FILM OF HIM TO THEIR PLAYERS.
