I dont usually post in this Forum as politics is a load of bollocks but anyone who thinks The Jews are prone to conspiracies must be a Nazi :missingte Ask David Irvine if they are capable of corruption and twisting the Facts, a walk through Golders Green in London would enlighten most. :drink:
Roscoe, in response to your rhetoric I posted this:
Originally Posted by Scott L
Roscoe, no there ain't. Most Israelis want to run up their credit card and their waistlines, just like Americans. Less than 10% of Israelis are Orthodox and about 1/2 of those are zealots, while most are not very religious.
Many believe if they give the Arabs everything they want ["Peace at any Price"] they will stop being attacked. Others believe they need to take a tougher stance with their neighbors, but even the majority of these people don't want to fight and merely want their Arab neighbors to accept that Israel exists and isn't going anywhere.
Now on the other side I can't tell you what the people want. But I can tell you what they're fed....HATE propaganda 24/7. It really doesn't matter if Ahmed the dressmaker in Gaza wants peace with Israel, he has no voice. The Palestinians are controlled by a radical ideology cut from the same cloth that flew planes into buildings in Wash & NYC. And in that territory, it's only the rulers voices that count. They are sworn to Israel's destruction. Just as bad they see any and all concessions by Israel as weakness and actually escalate attacks forthwith.
Roscoe, you may think I'm the radical on this issue, but my opinion is you are. You have stated a wish for Israel to be blown up, something horrifying to me. But I don't wish to see either a big pile of dead Arabs or Jews. I want peace. But unlike you I live in reality.
By the way I already know how you'll respond to this post......
And just as I thought you returned with lighter fluid and match in hand, addressing nothing I said, and AGAIN smeared me and the entire Jewish population. Read my post again. Then read yours which posted words from my keyboard that I would never type:
""you live in reality" so what you wanna do?...let me guess....you want to kill them before they kill you right?..talk about propaganda!...lol...and from the slice of society thats jewish in this forum i can gather that almost all of ya'll feel that way...the "we got to kill them before they kill us" battlecry....so YES there are plenty of jews who want to kill muslims...your first sentence is trumped!"
Now Roscoe, how can you possibly wonder why you are constantly fighting with people in here? Now we can continue this discussion or not. But first a simple YES or NO question: Can you be reasoned with?
Originally Posted by Scott L
Roscoe, no there ain't. Most Israelis want to run up their credit card and their waistlines, just like Americans. Less than 10% of Israelis are Orthodox and about 1/2 of those are zealots, while most are not very religious.
Many believe if they give the Arabs everything they want ["Peace at any Price"] they will stop being attacked. Others believe they need to take a tougher stance with their neighbors, but even the majority of these people don't want to fight and merely want their Arab neighbors to accept that Israel exists and isn't going anywhere.
Now on the other side I can't tell you what the people want. But I can tell you what they're fed....HATE propaganda 24/7. It really doesn't matter if Ahmed the dressmaker in Gaza wants peace with Israel, he has no voice. The Palestinians are controlled by a radical ideology cut from the same cloth that flew planes into buildings in Wash & NYC. And in that territory, it's only the rulers voices that count. They are sworn to Israel's destruction. Just as bad they see any and all concessions by Israel as weakness and actually escalate attacks forthwith.
Roscoe, you may think I'm the radical on this issue, but my opinion is you are. You have stated a wish for Israel to be blown up, something horrifying to me. But I don't wish to see either a big pile of dead Arabs or Jews. I want peace. But unlike you I live in reality.
By the way I already know how you'll respond to this post......
And just as I thought you returned with lighter fluid and match in hand, addressing nothing I said, and AGAIN smeared me and the entire Jewish population. Read my post again. Then read yours which posted words from my keyboard that I would never type:
""you live in reality" so what you wanna do?...let me guess....you want to kill them before they kill you right?..talk about propaganda!...lol...and from the slice of society thats jewish in this forum i can gather that almost all of ya'll feel that way...the "we got to kill them before they kill us" battlecry....so YES there are plenty of jews who want to kill muslims...your first sentence is trumped!"
Now Roscoe, how can you possibly wonder why you are constantly fighting with people in here? Now we can continue this discussion or not. But first a simple YES or NO question: Can you be reasoned with?
I just played Illinois OVER 117 and UCLA OVER 126.5. I will not hold any extra on the first as I don't care for it at all. I'm just expecting it to close around 120 and I'll even out later. Now the second play I expect to end up around 130, and I will keep extra on the OVER in this one, as Pac 10 Tourney now on an 18-6 OVER run since last year.......Up all night working.
Mich/Wisky will close higher than 117. This one not a PLAY, just for middle speculators. Caught a nice one with FLA/BAMA 150 down to 147 earlier.
BW's crew hits UNDERS in the SEC Tourney every year. And gets crushed!
Through Thursday's games based on closing lines SEC Conf Tourney now 106-60 OVER last 15+ years.
And it gets even better later in the Tourney [fingers crossed]. Quarterfinal and Semifinal SEC games are 20-4 OVER the last 4 years.
Note: If you're going to play those wait until they drop. As I said, so-called "Sharps" are playing UNDERS in SEC 10-15 minutes to post. Don't get caught with a bad number!
BW's crew hits UNDERS in the SEC Tourney every year. And gets crushed!
Through Thursday's games based on closing lines SEC Conf Tourney now 106-60 OVER last 15+ years.
And it gets even better later in the Tourney [fingers crossed]. Quarterfinal and Semifinal SEC games are 20-4 OVER the last 4 years.
Note: If you're going to play those wait until they drop. As I said, so-called "Sharps" are playing UNDERS in SEC 10-15 minutes to post. Don't get caught with a bad number!
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Now Scotty, tell the truth. Its not just Gold. It can also be also Silver, can it not? As in Silver---Stein and his merry band of elite conspirators, how convienient for you to omit that- Larry sure loves money, wouldnt ya say? On insurance policies!!! :lol:
As they proceed to take over the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now Scotty, tell the truth. Its not just Gold. It can also be also Silver, can it not? As in Silver---Stein and his merry band of elite conspirators, how convienient for you to omit that- Larry sure loves money, wouldnt ya say? On insurance policies!!! :lol:
As they proceed to take over the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I want peace. But unlike you I live in reality"...scott L
from those words of YOURS I concluded that yea, you might want peace BUT because the muslims have this plot to take over the world than that forces your hand a bit...so you want to get them before they get you.
if thats not what you meant by those 2 sentences then what did you mean by "I want peace. But unlike you I live in reality."?
from those words of YOURS I concluded that yea, you might want peace BUT because the muslims have this plot to take over the world than that forces your hand a bit...so you want to get them before they get you.
if thats not what you meant by those 2 sentences then what did you mean by "I want peace. But unlike you I live in reality."?
I'll take that as a "NO" Roscoe. We're done talking.
Muddy,
The purpose of the thread was to point out how stupid their conspiracy crap is. But I wouldn't expect YOU to understand.Too many idiots in this room.....ONWARD!
New purpose: WIN
Go OVER in MOH/KENT at 117.5. Total should close in the 121 area.
Muddy,
The purpose of the thread was to point out how stupid their conspiracy crap is. But I wouldn't expect YOU to understand.Too many idiots in this room.....ONWARD!
New purpose: WIN
Go OVER in MOH/KENT at 117.5. Total should close in the 121 area.
ope:An illiterate calling me ignorant? Funny! Ignore me. Miss the 3 point moves I'm giving out in here. Not like you have 2 nickels to rub together anyway.
"Mich/Wisky will close higher than 117."
UNDER 121 available on post. Buying back all of it.
Playing UNDER 157 game 525-526 now. You'll be able to go OVER 154 later.
"Mich/Wisky will close higher than 117."
UNDER 121 available on post. Buying back all of it.
Playing UNDER 157 game 525-526 now. You'll be able to go OVER 154 later.
good luck on your games scotty....take tulsa -1.5.
bottom-line is you think israel does no wrong...therefore your easily manipulated...nothing wrong with the every day jewish person and in fact i have multiple jewish friends...but those of you who think israel does no wrong or all the fighting in the middle east is never israel's fault is the "typical type" that i can't stand!
don't forget to take tulsa.
your a good guy scotty...and i was wrong for using you as a lab rat.
bottom-line is you think israel does no wrong...therefore your easily manipulated...nothing wrong with the every day jewish person and in fact i have multiple jewish friends...but those of you who think israel does no wrong or all the fighting in the middle east is never israel's fault is the "typical type" that i can't stand!
don't forget to take tulsa.
your a good guy scotty...and i was wrong for using you as a lab rat.
Roscoe,
I'm trying with you. Really I am. However you keep typing responses to statements I have not made. You do this constantly. Please debate fairly or put me on ignore like Random.
There is nothing wrong with criticism of any country as long as it's fair.
Israelis are free to go out in the street and rant all they want without fear of reprisal.
Disagreement and handwringing are at the very core of a healthy society. And YES, of course Israel can do wrong.
On any given day if you read the editorials in the Jerusalem Post and Haaretz you will get opposing POVs. And no one is shot for it.
Here are three truths for you Roscoe:
1--The Palestinian people are suffering from Israeli response to their aggressive actions. However, Palestinians suffer more at the hands of their oppressive rulers than by Israeli countermeasures. Every week Palestinians are dragged out of their houses and beaten or killed in the streets by gangs of terrorists. No one complains and no trials are held. There is no internat'l outcry.
2-- The Palestinians have the will to destroy Israel, but not the power. The Israelis have the power to destroy the Palestinians, but NOT THE WILL.
3-- This has turned into a very crazy thread!
3A -- I'm on the other side of your game. But best of LUCK today!
I'm trying with you. Really I am. However you keep typing responses to statements I have not made. You do this constantly. Please debate fairly or put me on ignore like Random.
There is nothing wrong with criticism of any country as long as it's fair.
Israelis are free to go out in the street and rant all they want without fear of reprisal.
Disagreement and handwringing are at the very core of a healthy society. And YES, of course Israel can do wrong.
On any given day if you read the editorials in the Jerusalem Post and Haaretz you will get opposing POVs. And no one is shot for it.
Here are three truths for you Roscoe:
1--The Palestinian people are suffering from Israeli response to their aggressive actions. However, Palestinians suffer more at the hands of their oppressive rulers than by Israeli countermeasures. Every week Palestinians are dragged out of their houses and beaten or killed in the streets by gangs of terrorists. No one complains and no trials are held. There is no internat'l outcry.
2-- The Palestinians have the will to destroy Israel, but not the power. The Israelis have the power to destroy the Palestinians, but NOT THE WILL.
3-- This has turned into a very crazy thread!
3A -- I'm on the other side of your game. But best of LUCK today!
i'll quickly address your 2 relevent points
1) the american people suffer more at the hands of OUR oppressive rulers too!!!!!...every week people are dragged out there houses to prison for dealing drugs that our government is bringing in!...why isn't the media, which is jewish controlled, reporting on the truth?...why is EVERY arab attack against israel terrorism and EVERY attack by israel potrayed as innocent retaliation?...maybe because the jewish controlled media wants us to feel like everything here is okey dokey and poor israel is in dire need of help to prevent another holocaust!....that way the welfare for israel can continue unabated....that's the way i see it.
2) propaganda...don't make me get hellah on you.
and even if your right and i'm wrong...bottom-line is this country can't afford to fight israels wars any-more.
I am realizing what I should have already known. This is not time-well-spent. I will no sooner get a fair shake from you than will Israel.
I can't be making useless efforts toward you Roscoe. I'll just try my best to be polite. If you think you live in an oppressive society you have more issues than I can deal with. Likewise with the media being Jewish controlled.
The media is made up of individuals who went to college and studied journalism. Some are Jewish. They are not conspiring to control your mind Roscoe [man the dope these days must be much stronger than what I used to pack in my Steamroller]. I could write a book about why a strong Israel is good for America, and address your points about aggression and defense. Reasonable people know the difference between aggression and the required response. Actually I already have done more than enough. But why continue as it's March and you're just giving me "busy work." We are getting nowhere, and unlike you I realize that nothing posted in here is going to change how the world really works.
Hellah is free to think whatever he wants. I respect that he served in our armed forces. But he supports terrorism against Israel and thinks Hizb'Allah is a force for good. What more do I need to know about him?
