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Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results
Monday October 22, 4:30 pm ET <TABLE height=4 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD height=4>

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Quarterly Mac Sales Set New Record<TABLE height=4 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD height=4>

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Quarterly iPhone Sales Exceed One Million
CUPERTINO, Calif., Oct. 22 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Apple® today announced financial results for its fiscal 2007 fourth quarter ended September 29, 2007. The Company posted revenue of $6.22 billion and net quarterly profit of $904 million, or $1.01 per diluted share. These results compare to revenue of $4.84 billion and net quarterly profit of $542 million, or $.62 per diluted share, in the year-ago quarter. Gross margin was 33.6 percent, up from 29.2 percent in the year-ago quarter. International sales accounted for 40 percent of the quarter's revenue.

USD in the gutter good. :aktion033:pope::party:

Incidently,as Im sure youre already aware (lol) thats about the norm for the international quota of Apples profits quarter to quarter.Go back to practically any year,its got way less to do with the dollar than it does with cheaper technology,wider availibility and a good name brand worldwide.

Good try to spin it up tho.
 

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Incidently,as Im sure youre already aware (lol) thats about the norm for the international quota of Apples profits quarter to quarter.Go back to practically any year,its got way less to do with the dollar than it does with cheaper technology,wider availibility and a good name brand worldwide.

Good try to spin it up tho.

what do previous percentage's have to do with anything

you can see revenue growth in terms USD if you are quarter over quarter selling the same 40% of your products in strong international currencies vs. your weak one you report numbers in that is going in the gutter as time rolls along...
 

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what do previous percentage's have to do with anything

you can see revenue growth in terms USD if you are quarter over quarter selling the same 40% of your products in strong international currencies vs. your weak one you report numbers in that is going in the gutter as time rolls along...

Quite a bit if your using a specific time period (now) and trying to relate it to a specific condition (weak USD) as a means to explain something I can tell you believe to be an anomoly.

Why would you emphasize the 40%,this quarter, when its more or less a constant,regardless of times or conditions.

Now your just being dishonest about your original intentions.
 

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Quite a bit if your using a specific time period (now) and trying to relate it to a specific condition (weak USD) as a means to explain something I can tell you believe to be an anomoly.

Why would you emphasize the 40%,this quarter, when its more or less a constant,regardless of times or conditions.

Now your just being dishonest about your original intentions.

my specific intentions were to show that 40% of revenues were derived in international markets where the currencies are strong so in dollar terms they are making more money year over year in terms of USD....obviously they are seeing growth beyond that....just saying the weak dollar helps their numbers as well....

last year at this time dollar was at 86.5 now its at 77.9
 

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just take a look at coca cola if you want a good example, domestic consumer growth is slowing as people are becoming more health conscious about downing sugar water all the time

the leader in growth, sales, and revenue is mainly coming from the international side and some of that is aided by the currency issues i'm talking about.
 

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TIZ,

I really enjoy reading your posts as they not only educate, but keep most of us balanced. BUT what do you suggest people do in this upcoming election year, when most ME included believe the fed will do WHATEVER it takes to keep this economy going forward...I already have taken about 60% out of the us markets and placed it in metals, overseas...etc...the other 40% is in the us markets...but if i read you correctly you think this tremendous drop is coming sooner than most.......IE Feb. maybe.....any comments or suggestiuons??
 

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TIZ,

I really enjoy reading your posts as they not only educate, but keep most of us balanced. BUT what do you suggest people do in this upcoming election year, when most ME included believe the fed will do WHATEVER it takes to keep this economy going forward...I already have taken about 60% out of the us markets and placed it in metals, overseas...etc...the other 40% is in the us markets...but if i read you correctly you think this tremendous drop is coming sooner than most.......IE Feb. maybe.....any comments or suggestiuons??

i don't really like making specific suggestions (especially to somebody over the internet on a gambling forum but....) the big thing is to be diversified and defensive especially now....

i'm in cash, metals, longing some issues, and shorting others (much more in metals and short than i'd typically be)

as for international markets watch out where you are at!! especially in the emerging markets when things do unravel the ones that run up the most will be the ones falling the most (china, india, etc)....so they will IMO get hit worse than the US....emerging markets still quite dependent on our consumption and haven't grown domestic demand to keep up with their overcapacity they will be sitting on when things slow....

the commodity boom with high prices has also helped out countries south america, canada, austrailia (the resource heavy countries)

if i had to just say flat out a place to park some money i'd say go with hussman strategic growth fund I own some...symbol hstrx

honestly hussman really understands the risk imperative right here and is properly hedged and isn't one to jump all in to any one side and is very diversified....and he's not a permabear as i tend to go towards

I hate the idea of mutual funds (they just rape you with loads and expenses when you can easily make better decisions on your own) in general but this guy is sharp as a tack, and i trust him with my money, its no-load fund, the expense ratio (the percent cut the fund takes from you) is low in comparison to most mutual funds so i think this would be a good place to park some money IMO

http://www.hussman.net/pdf/hsgperf.pdf

he's able to succeed quite well in down market (kicked butt durning the 2000-2002 tech bubble blowup) and has held his own the last 5 years during bull market although underperforming

also check out his weekly articles at

www.hussman.net always great reads can rant about things and knows alot more than me.

hope this helps.... :toast:
 

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A decent mutual fund can save you a ton of hassle because they do all the research guff for you and usually charge 1-2% per annum.
A mutual fund also gives you the diversification a little guy needs.

The key is finding a good one.

My old corporate pension has done really well over the last few years in a mutual fund.

Money markets will never be as secure as owning your own house or a bag of gold coins, but you'll get good growth from a decent fund.
 

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You've also gotta remember that individuals have never had so much wealth, so if they all start going to cash the banks are going to want to get that cash back out into the market and they'll lower rates to keep those cappytalist wheels turning.

The amount of cash in private hands nowadays is pretty ridiculous, and a lot of excess cash has been looking to generate above average returns.

This is why hedge funds and private equity funds have suddenly popped up in the last few years.

Some of those hedge funds are a fucking joke as far as "investment" is concerned.
They've been putting their entire wedge on one side of a market, basically they have been backing black or red on the global roulette wheel.

So whacky stuff like that will generate some market jitters, just as the scam loans market has come home to roost.
 

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A decent mutual fund can save you a ton of hassle because they do all the research guff for you and usually charge 1-2% per annum.
A mutual fund also gives you the diversification a little guy needs.

The key is finding a good one.

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why waste your time looking for a good mutual just buy the index ........mutual funds are so over rated imo. The vast majority can't beat the comparable index over the long term.
 

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why waste your time looking for a good mutual just buy the index ........mutual funds are so over rated imo. The vast majority can't beat the comparable index over the long term.

You should do your investing all by yourself. Take the time, open an online account. 5 dollar trade. Buy indexes like SPY DIA or QQQQ if you must. I wouldn't b/c you are better off buying individual issues or baskets. Whatever you do, don't buy dollars.
 

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well aapl earnings really aiding things today major tech squeeze happened at 2 pm eastern today look at rimm chart quite funny

http://quote.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=RIMM&t=1d

4 horseman as cramer has labeled them flying

rimm up 10% now at 125 for the hell of it major squeeze this afternoon, aapl up 7% at 185, amzn up 7% at 98 (earnings after hours going to give another bump?), and goog up a measily 4% at 675
 

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nevermind

crackberry going to chinaland reason for the rimm move

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RIM Jumps on Chinese Smartphone Deal

By Priya Ganapati
TheStreet.com Staff Reporter
10/23/2007 3:12 PM EDT
Click here for more stories by Priya Ganapati

Investors sent shares of BlackBerry maker Research In Motion (RIMM - Cramer's Take - Stockpickr - Rating) soaring by more than 8% after the company said it has signed a deal with Alcatel-Lucent (ALU - Cramer's Take - Stockpickr - Rating) to distribute BlackBerry smartphones in China.

The deal comes after years of effort by RIM to enter China, which holds the potential to be by far the largest market worldwide for mobile phones.

RIM said it has started shipping its smartphones to distribution networks in China and expects widespread availability of its phones in the country by the end of the year.

RIM's stock jumped $9.23, or 8.1%, to $122.61 in recent trading.

RIM had signed a distribution agreement with Alcatel-Lucent last year covering Africa, the Middle East, South East Asia and China. It also has a partnership with China Mobile

The company plans to start with the launch of its 8700 model in China.
 

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Getting nutso in techy land approaching 2000 levels of insanity on some issues....

Amzn blew up to 100 up 9.50 on the day to close in prepartion for earnings

now down 7 bucks in AH to 94 on earnings.
 

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....nevermind bad quote on goog

amzn completely rid of all its gain today now...and than some 90.29 down 10.41%
 

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Getting funny on the housing front

by the way CTX a homebuilder posted a loss of $5.26 AH

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Bill Allowing Mortgage Lawsuits Expected to Stir Fierce Opposition
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By EDMUND L. ANDREWS
Published: October 23, 2007
WASHINGTON, Oct. 22 — House Democrats introduced legislation on Monday that would for the first time let homeowners sue Wall Street firms for relief from mortgages that the borrowers never had a realistic chance of repaying.

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Representative Barney Frank, the House Financial Services Committee chairman, expects committee approval next week.

Housing Legislation The measure, which is expected to generate intense opposition from the financial services industry, addresses some of the problems tied to the transformation of the mortgage lending industry from an often local business into a trillion-dollar global market for investors in search of higher returns.

The bill is part of a broader measure intended to restrict what lawmakers and consumer advocates consider deceptive and improper lending practices, many of which were common among the millions of soured subprime mortgages to people with low incomes or poor credit histories.

Critics warn that the bill could chill and perhaps freeze a huge source of capital that has helped push homeownership in the United States to its highest level.

The legislation, introduced by Representative Barney Frank, Democrat of Massachusetts and chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, would require any mortgage lender to verify that the borrower has a “reasonable ability to repay” based on documented income, credit history and debt level.

“The people who package mortgages and sell them into the secondary market were a major cause of the single biggest world financial crisis since the Asian crisis” of 1997-8, Mr. Frank said, “and it's unthinkable that we would leave that undisturbed.”

The congressman said that he expected his committee to debate and approve the measure next week, and that House leaders hope to bring it up on the floor in three or four weeks. Senator Christopher J. Dodd, chairman of the banking committee there, has outlined a separate bill against predatory lending.

This would be the closest that Congress has ever come to legislating on the suitability of particular mortgages and blocking loans it deems too risky.

More than two million people took out subprime loans in the last two years that offered relatively low initial rates but are to jump sharply when the introductory periods expire. Analysts predict that at least a quarter of these people may default and lose their homes.

Under the House bill, people who can show that they never had a reasonable ability to repay the loans would still have to pay for their homes, but would have new statutory power to demand better deals from the lenders. They could demand that their original mortgage lender offer a better loan. Or they could demand relief from the Wall Street firm that bought the mortgage and resold it to investors.

The measure would also restrict several practices that industry critics have long said were deceptive and amounted to “predatory lending.” It would prohibit incentives to brokers for steering borrowers to more expensive mortgages. It would sharply restrict prepayment penalties — something common with subprime loans, which effectively lock borrowers into the loans.

Mr. Frank said the criteria for loans that had no realistic chance of being repaid would include those with monthly payments equal to more than half a person's income. Lenders who offer loans that do not require the borrower to document his or her income or financial circumstances would also risk challenges.

The basic approach to defining unpayable loans is similar to the guidance that federal bank regulators have long given to loan underwriters at banks.

But about half of all recent mortgages in recent years — and the vast majority of subprime loans — were made by lenders and brokers who fall outside the federal banking system. Many of these are regulated by states, but the rules vary widely and some have almost no restrictions on the tactics that a lender can employ.

Under the new bill, states would be required to set standards for mortgage brokers and lending. States that do not develop a standard would be subject to relatively strict federal standards, to be developed by the Department of Housing and Urban Development, that would require mortgage brokers to act “solely in the best interest” of the consumer.
 

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nice pre squeeze prior to crappy tech earnings

brcm off 13%
pnra off 6%
jnpr off 6%
amzn off 9%
rfmd off 7.5%
altr off 12.5%
trmb off 10.5%
rvbd off 23%

ABC/Washington Post Consumer Comfort Index down to -17
Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:01pm EDT

NEW YORK, Oct 23 (Reuters) - The confidence of American consumers fell to a six-week low in the latest week as higher gasoline prices and credit concerns continued to erode the economic outlook, a poll showed on Tuesday.

The ABC News/Washington Post Consumer Comfort Index fell to -17 in the latest week from -13 in the previous period. The measure ranges from -100 to +100; its 2007 average is -8 and the 2007 low, hit in August, is -20.

"Gasoline prices rose by six cents to $2.82 per gallon, and the subprime loan fallout continues to shake the stock, credit and housing markets alike," the news outlets said in a statement.

The three components of the ABC/Washington Post index were lower compared with the previous week.

Americans' positive views on the national economy and on the buying climate both fell 2 percentage points, to 34 percent, and views on their personal finances were off 3 percentage points, to 56 percent.

Confidence measures are generally viewed as a barometer of consumer spending, which accounts for two-thirds of the U.S. economy. However, economists note that consumers do not always act in accordance with their statements to surveys.

The ABC/Washington Post consumer confidence survey was based on a sample of about 1,000 interviews conducted in the four weeks ending Oct. 21 and has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

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Wal-Mart Says Sales Growth Will Slow
Tuesday October 23, 1:55 pm ET
By Marcus Kabel, AP Business Writer
Wal-Mart: Sales Growth Will Slow for Next 3 Years; Plans Less Spending on New Stores

Wal-Mart Stores Inc. will cut back on spending to build new stores and tighten cost controls as sales growth slows over the next three years, Chief Financial Officer Tom Schoewe told investors and analysts at a conference Tuesday.

Schoewe trimmed plans for capital expenditures for the second time this year, to about $15 billion from a June forecast of $15.5 billion. The original projection was $17 billion.
 

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You should do your investing all by yourself. Take the time, open an online account. 5 dollar trade. Buy indexes like SPY DIA or QQQQ if you must. I wouldn't b/c you are better off buying individual issues or baskets. Whatever you do, don't buy dollars.

baskets are good ....just try and keep the MER low. If your paying 2.5% Mer you will have trouble beating the index. Not saying its impossible but the odd are against you.

Dont really agree with buying individual stocks unless you watch the market like a hawk. I dont think investing in the market is a part time thing. You have to live and breath the markets if your investing in individual stocks and the average joe doesn't do that. Even since i quit as a broker I don't feel I follow the market enough to invest in individual stocks. I have a few blue chips but stay away from momentum plays.

But i here what your saying about the dollar my investments are up huge this year in both CND and US stocks but the USD has really had a effect on my portfolio even though its only about 30% .
 

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Yen Rises on Report Merrill Will Add $2.5 Billion to Writedowns

Oct. 24 (Bloomberg) -- The yen rose against all 16 of the world's most-active currencies after the New York Times reported Merrill Lynch & Co. will increase its third-quarter writedowns by $2.5 billion.
The Japanese yen strengthened the most versus the New Zealand dollar, British pound and South African rand, among the favorite targets of so-called carry trades, in which investors borrow at low interest rates to buy higher-yielding currencies. Japan's Nikkei 225 Stock Average declined, reversing gains.



``The news report on Merrill Lynch caused risk reduction, triggering stock sales and the unwinding of the yen carry trade,'' said Kenichi Yumoto, a senior dealer at Societe Generale SA in Tokyo. The U.S. investment bank said earlier this month it would report third-quarter writedowns of $5 billion, mostly to cover losses tied to a drop in the value of collateralized debt obligations amid a slump in credit markets.



The yen advanced to 114.43 per dollar at 7:17 a.m. in London from 114.78 in New York yesterday. Against the euro, it gained to 163.01 from 163.70. Japan's currency may climb to 114 versus the dollar and 162.20 a euro

today, Yumoto forecast.


A Merrill spokesman declined to comment, the New York Times reported. Standard & Poor's said today it may cut the credit ratings of 207 Australian and New Zealand residential mortgage- backed securities as turmoil in the U.S. subprime market spread.



Yuan Breaks 7.5



The yen climbed to 85.89 against the New Zealand dollar from 86.90 yesterday, and advanced to 234.25 versus the pound from 235.42. Against the rand the currency traded at 17.06 from 17.14.
In carry trades, investors get funds in a country with low borrowing costs and invest in one with higher interest rates, earning the spread between the borrowing and lending rate. The risk is that currency moves erase those

profits.



Japan's interest rate of 0.5 percent is the lowest among major economies and compares with a key rate of 8.25 percent in New Zealand and 5.75 percent in the U.K. South Africa's borrowing costs are 10.5 percent.
China's yuan rose beyond 7.5 to the dollar for the first time since its link to the dollar was scrapped in July 2005, driven by a widening trade surplus and inflows of foreign investment.


A report circulating within China's National Development and Reform

Commission suggested the central bank should revalue the yuan by as much as 20 percent, according to Market News International. A People's Bank of China spokesman declined to comment. Traders are betting it will break 7 per dollar by the end of next year, non-deliverable forwards contracts

show.


Australia's CPI


The yen earlier fell against the Australian dollar after a measure of the southern hemisphere nation's consumer prices rose more than economists expected, fueling speculation the central bank will raise interest rates from 6.5 percent.



``We expect a rate increase in November and that won't be the last one in the cycle,'' said Sean Callow, senior foreign exchange strategist at Westpac Banking Corp. in Singapore. ``Currency markets are going to reflect that. The Australian dollar is likely to push higher.''



Japan's currency may fall to 106 against the Australian dollar by the end of March, Callow said. The Reserve Bank of Australia next meets on Nov. 6.
The dollar may decline against the euro for a second day before a U.S. report that economists forecast will show existing home sales last month sank to the lowest since November 2001.



U.S. Housing



The U.S. currency traded at $1.4253 per euro after falling 0.6 percent yesterday. The dollar dropped to an all-time low of $1.4348 on Oct. 22.
The National Association of Realtors may say sales of previously owned U.S. homes fell 4.5 percent to an annual rate of 5.25 million in September, according to the median forecast in a Bloomberg News survey. The data is scheduled for 10 a.m. New York time.



There's a ``long way to go'' before home prices stabilize, former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said yesterday at a conference in Chicago.


``The U.S. housing market will get worse, with home mortgage payments going sour,'' said Tetsuhisa Hayashi, chief currency trader in Tokyo at Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi UFJ Ltd., a unit of Japan's largest publicly traded lender by assets. ``The dollar will head south'' to 114.30 yen and $1.43 a euro today, he said.



Jim Rogers, chairman of Beeland Interests Inc., said he is shifting all his assets out of the dollar and buying the yuan because the Fed has eroded the value of the U.S. currency.


``I'm in the process of -- I hope in the next few months - getting all of my assets out of U.S. dollars,'' said Rogers, who correctly predicted the commodities rally in 1999. ``I'm that pessimistic about what's happening in the U.S.''


The Fed on Sept. 18 cut the target rate for overnight lending between banks by a half-percentage point to 4.75 percent. Interest-rate futures on the Chicago Board of Trade show traders see about an 88 percent chance the Fed will lower borrowing costs to 4.5 percent on Oct. 31, up from 54 percent a week ago.
 

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Back to normal at Countrywide this morning...new 52 week low.

NAR released some negative housing data. Home sales down 19% and prices fell.

Apparently the US economy and stock market are now driven by apple, google, rimm, and nothing else matters.


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