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Aha! After a lifetime of private healthcare... it's all the Governments fault! (lols)

Even a blind dogma ridden capitalist can see the numbers.
USA healthcare 20% of GDP for crap healthcare
Everyone else in the developed world... less GDP % for more cover

In the UK 8% of GDP for 100% coverage INCLUDING DENTAL, my last dental was $15 and I go 4 times a year now

The extra 10% of US GDP goes to the private healthcare insurance companies
Any proper healthcare system which tries to use private healthcare insurance companies will fail, 100% guaranteed
 

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Peak Amazon finally get this market to cave in? Down 50 bucks or 5%ish on earnings.. only 7 trading days left to keep it propped for queen Hillary!
 

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Aha! After a lifetime of private healthcare... it's all the Governments fault! (lols)

Even a blind dogma ridden capitalist can see the numbers.
USA healthcare 20% of GDP for crap healthcare
Everyone else in the developed world... less GDP % for more cover

In the UK 8% of GDP for 100% coverage INCLUDING DENTAL, my last dental was $15 and I go 4 times a year now

The extra 10% of US GDP goes to the private healthcare insurance companies
Any proper healthcare system which tries to use private healthcare insurance companies will fail, 100% guaranteed

Our healthcare system isn't crap it's just expensive.. rich Canadians come south all the time to get important shit done.. cause they'd be waiting forever and lower quality in canada..

the system obviously broken before obamacare .. with insurers in bed with big government.. Obamacare just broke it even further.. I don't have the answers just knew how it was setup was gonna be a miserable failure ...as only poor unhealthy people gonna sign up while healthy debt ridden young people won't.. now many insurers pulling out of Obamacare as not worth their time and no competition/few options left..
 

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Nothing today in America is true free market capitalist eek quit saying that... big companies including insurers own government.. and write/influence the laws
 

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big companies including insurers own government.. and write/influence the laws

And juries give these laws credibility.. or shitcan them if they are abused

Jury finds 7 wildlife refuge occupiers, including Ammon Bundy, not guilty on all counts
 

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Huh citizens don't get to decide on stuff like Obamacare.. if we think it's bullshit or not..government and corporations who influence/came up with the law dictated that all citizens must have health care or pay a penalty for not having it..
 

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I was talking about laws in general, not getting hung up on the failure of private healthcare

As far as universal healthcare is concerned anything which ever involves private healthcare companies will be a stillborn project from day one, it's not even worth discussing

The private sector is as good at universal healthcare as the Government would be at making sports cars, burgers and trainers
 

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if the whole system was corrupted with large corporations able to influence those who make the healthcare laws private healthcare work just fine... reason private insurance market broke is because it's anything but capitalist and rigged so insurers make the most money possible..

health savings accounts are one positive in healthcare in recent years.. giving people incentive to take personal responsibility for their own personal health.. if they have a healthy year they can stash away a good chuck of change tax free..

bottom line we can argue about what system will work or won't all options are expensive.... with the baby boomer population hitting retirement age.. and obesity rates going up every single year.. healthcare is going to get more expensive regardless of who is paying the bill.. just a question of who's footing what percent of the bill .. citizens or governments debt tab..
 

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[h=1]World on track to lose two-thirds of wild animals by 2020, major report warns | Environment | The Guardian[/h]Damian Carrington

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A victim of poachers in Kenya: elephants are among the species most impacted by humans, the WWF report found. Photograph: imageBROKER/REX/Shutterstock
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The number of wild animals living on Earth is set to fall by two-thirds by 2020, according to a new report, part of a mass extinction that is destroying the natural world upon which humanity depends.
The analysis, the most comprehensive to date, indicates that animal populations plummeted by 58% between 1970 and 2012, with losses on track to reach 67% by 2020. Researchers from WWF and the Zoological Society of London compiled the report from scientific data and found that the destruction of wild habitats, hunting and pollution were to blame.

The creatures being lost range from mountains to forests to rivers and the seas and include well-known endangered species such as elephants and gorillas and lesser known creatures such as vultures and salamanders.

The collapse of wildlife is, with climate change, the most striking sign of the Anthropocene, a proposed new geological era in which humans dominate the planet. “We are no longer a small world on a big planet. We are now a big world on a small planet, where we have reached a saturation point,” said Prof Johan Rockström, executive director of the Stockholm Resilience Centre, in a foreword for the report.
Marco Lambertini, director general of WWF, said: “The richness and diversity of life on Earth is fundamental to the complex life systems that underpin it. Life supports life itself and we are part of the same equation. Lose biodiversity and the natural world and the life support systems, as we know them today, will collapse.”
He said humanity was completely dependent on nature for clean air and water, food and materials, as well as inspiration and happiness.

The report analysed the changing abundance of more than 14,000 monitored populations of the 3,700 vertebrate species for which good data is available. This produced a measure akin to a stock market index that indicates the state of the world’s 64,000 animal species and is used by scientists to measure the progress of conservation efforts.
The biggest cause of tumbling animal numbers is the destruction of wild areas for farming and logging: the majority of the Earth’s land area has now been impacted by humans, with just 15% protected for nature. Poaching and exploitation for food is another major factor, due to unsustainable fishing and hunting: more than 300 mammal species are being eaten into extinction, according to recent research.
World's wildlife being pushed to the edge by humans - in pictures
Pollution is also a significant problem with, for example, killer whales and dolphins in European seas being seriously harmed by long-lived industrial pollutants. Vultures in south-east Asia have been decimated over the last 20 years, dying after eating the carcasses of cattle dosed with an anti-inflammatory drug. Amphibians have suffered one of the greatest declines of all animals due to a fungal disease thought to be spread around the world by the trade in frogs and newts.

Rivers and lakes are the hardest hit habitats, with animals populations down by 81% since 1970, due to excessive water extraction, pollution and dams. All the pressures are magnified by global warming, which shifts the ranges in which animals are able to live, said WWF’s director of science, Mike Barrett.
Some researchers have reservations about the report’s approach, which summarises many different studies into a headline number. “It is broadly right, but the whole is less than the sum of the parts,” said Prof Stuart Pimm, at Duke University in the US, adding that looking at particular groups, such as birds, is more precise.
The report warns that losses of wildlife will impact on people and could even provoke conflicts: “Increased human pressure threatens the natural resources that humanity depends upon, increasing the risk of water and food insecurity and competition over natural resources.”
Related: Agriculture and overuse greater threats to wildlife than climate change – study
However, some species are starting to recover, suggesting swift action could tackle the crisis. Tiger numbers are thought to be increasing and the giant panda has recently been removed from the list of endangered species.

In Europe, protection of the habitat of the Eurasian lynx and controls on hunting have seen its population rise fivefold since the 1960s. A recent global wildlife summit also introduced new protection for pangolins, the world’s most trafficked mammals, and rosewoods, the most trafficked wild product of all.
But stemming the overall losses of animals and habitats requires systemic change in how society consumes resources, said Barrett. People can choose to eat less meat, which is often fed on grain grown on deforested land, and businesses should ensure their supply chains, such as for timber, are sustainable, he said.
“You’d like to think that was a no-brainer in that if a business is consuming the raw materials for its products in a way that is not sustainable, then inevitably it will eventually put itself out of business,” Barrett said. Politicians must also ensure all their policies - not just environmental ones - are sustainable, he added.
“The report is certainly a pretty shocking snapshot of where we are,” said Barrett. “My hope though is that we don’t throw our hands up in despair - there is no time for despair, we have to crack on and act. I do remain convinced we can find our sustainable course through the Anthropocene, but the will has to be there to do it.”
 

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A small thought for the upcoming POTUS slugfest, turnout at US elections can be as low as 50%

Can Trump pull off a Brexit-style upset?
Some 2.8 million people - about 6% of the electorate - who had not voted for decades, if ever, turned up at polling stations on 23 June - and almost all of them voted to leave the EU.

The Remain campaign had listened to the experts, says Oliver, who had told them that non-voters don't vote.
But the experts were wrong.

Gallup, one of the biggest names in polling, has simply thrown in the towel, announcing it would not be predicting the winner of this year's presidential election, after getting it wrong last time. It has opted instead to concentrate on researching the issues.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-37736161

 

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The final result was
17,410,742 vs 16,141,241 (1,269,000)

2,800,000 surprise voters appeared from nowhere (The If-we-don't-vote-we're-fucked-party)

So a whole bunch of folk who had never bothered voting before now totally screwed things up, lol
 

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Without the latest Clinton email thing there was near zero chance.. now who knows.. sounds like there will be no final verdict of the investigation till after election so a cloud hanging over everything now.. just complete comedy these two stooges.. assuming Hillary does win gonna be lots of hearings and fun to come...

In the end we are watching an empire collapse in Slow motion.. it will happen to them all eventually..

we starting to lose the peripheral tentacles.. phillipines leadership now curses our leaders.. Malaysia buying military from china.. etc..
 

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Betfair now has trump at a bit below 25% sounds about right.. with email cloud a lot of the hold my nose and vote for Hillary cause I dislike her less than trump may just stay home..
 

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2120 cracked to downside a key technical level.. limping towards the finish line to keep this pig afloat for Hillary...
 

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The mass media polls will have Trump a wee bit ahead just before the big day, just to get those wavering Hillary voters off their backsides and down to the polling station
 

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Baby boomers at it as usual... created all the issues we have now.. hopefully Hillary vs trump peak baby boomer insanity..

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[h=1]Older adults more likely to be imprisoned, data show[/h]By Keith Humphreys
October 31

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Keith Humphreys is a psychiatry professor at Stanford University.
The U.S. imprisonment rate has been shrinking for six years, but the change has been uneven across generations. Despite criminal behavior typically peaking in young adulthood, the young rather than the old are driving the nation's ongoing de-incarceration.
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(Source: Bureau of Justice Statistics)

Over the most recent decade of state prison data analyzed by the Bureau of Justice Statistics, the inmate population aged even faster than the graying U.S. general population. The imprisonment rate for people ages 55 and older bucked the broader de-incarceration trend by jumping a startling 71 percent.
Adults younger than 30 in contrast were far less likely to be imprisoned in 2013 than was the case a decade ago. If the entire population had experienced the same change, states would be shuttering empty prisons coast to coast. This good news about young American adults is paralleled in other studies showing that they are far less likely to get arrested than were young adults of prior generations.
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Multiple factors account for the rising proportion of older Americans in prison. First, ever the trendsetters, baby boomers are somewhat more criminally active in late life than were previous generations. Second, the many state-level reforms designed to reduce incarceration were implemented long after the “tough on crime” era in which many older inmates were given protracted sentences. Third, older convicted criminals by definition have had more time than younger ones to accrue long criminal records, which often leads judges to mete out longer sentences for a particular offense.
Because prisons are legally responsible for providing health care to inmates, the aging of the prison population could strain their budgets despite the decline in the imprisonment rate. On the other hand, elderly, severely ill inmates pose minimal risk to public safety and thus are often good candidates for compassionate early release.
The millennial experience of crime and criminal justice could not be more different from that of their parents and grandparents. Millennials grew up in an era of collapsing crime rates and as young adults are experiencing dramatically decreasing rates of arrest and imprisonment. If their experience is replicated in their children’s generation, the United States has a real chance of returning to the low-crime, low-incarceration environment it had for much of the 20th century.
 

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That's your three strikes laws at work Tiz, America is the prison capital of the entire world.
More people go to jail in the USA than Iran, North Korea or any other shithole on the entire planet.

America loves putting people in prison, no-one else comes close

I vaguely remember some idiot stealing a kids ice cream which triggered his third strike

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/uk/06/prisons/html/nn2page1.stm
 

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Stealing one slice of pizza results in life sentence

Of the nearly 3,000 inmates convicted of a second or third strike through November 1994, more than 82 percent are behind bars for crimes not labeled serious or violent by the act, the legislative analyst, Elizabeth Hill said. The most common offenses were drug violations or petty thefts.

Williams will not be eligible for parole until he serves 20 years of his sentence, Lester said.


oops
 

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America is a curious place

There's enough money to put everyone in jail for 25 years if they steal a slice of pizza...

...but there's not enough money for universal healthcare !

Funny that. Innit. Yup, real strange, so it is.
 

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Some of it definitely has to do with over inprisonment.. and the slowly but surely softening stance of drugs is a step in right direction (baby boomers created war on drugs nonsense)... at same time you wouldnt see these significant generational differences if there wasn't some sort of cultural aspect to it as well.. baby boomers just a terrible generation that running this country into the ground.. will see what happens once they slowly die off and no longer control things... if things can be fixed or we just keep going further down the toilet ...
 

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