sell! sell! sell!

[Coaster]

Just ridiculous how people abuse/overuse the healthcare system (but the government involvement in it allows it as well) for minor ailments and such ... Once I cracked my ribs ... I could went and got an xray and they coulda told me to rest and hand me some strong painkillers on the Insurence companies dime which is pointless ... Just popped my ibuprofen and gutted it out on my own

Again I don't have the answers but the freeer markets do and government beurucrats in bed with big pharma/medical industry etc don't... And they need to find some way to stop promoting abuse of the health care system

Mass use of flu shots another thing that irks me absolutely no reason for any middle aged person with no underlying health conditions to get a flu shot yet it is covered by many insurance companies

I am from Canada and our health care is a mess.
Ranked about 30th in service and in the top 3 for cost.
We cover sex changes!!
50% of tax money goes into sick care, we have NO health care.

It is a "be over taxed to line up and wait" system.
Pay as you go is the way and it will be here before the decade is out.

 

[tiznow]

Twisting continue as expected didn't even extend zirp beyond 2014 although a given they will eventually

No QE hints now the QE whores await Ben at 2:15 praying he hints at it for september

I doubt the QE in sept unless things are totally unraveling with elections so close they like to keep their facade that they are politically neutral ...

 

[tiznow]

I guess "the committee is prepared to take further action as appropriate to promote a stronger economic recovery and sustained improvement in the labor market conditions in a comtext of price stability."

Could be taken as QE coming just a matter of when ... Markets coming back after initial selloff... Back to where we were before release ...

 

[tiznow]

Benspeak failing starting falling again right at 2:15

 

[tiznow]

Sense "they" were hard at work to keep it afloat on a fed day we'll see what happens in the coming days

Only thing that responded in a big negative way was oil down over 3%

 

[mickj]

mickj=dawoofdaddy

take it to the bank

Why do you think i'm Wolf? I might know 1/10 what woof knows.:lolBIG:

 

[eek.]

I Doubt he's Woofy IMO

 

[Ricboff]

I am from Canada and our health care is a mess.
Ranked about 30th in service and in the top 3 for cost.
We cover sex changes!!
50% of tax money goes into sick care, .

It is a "be over taxed to line up and wait" system.
Pay as you go is the way and it will be here before the decade is out.

lol

okay i'll play. Provide a source that vaildates ur statement with numbers.

thanks



'we have NO health care'

YES WE DO. Needs a lot of work, a quasi-social HC system is where we're headed (starting already, i see it) but we do have one. You can stop with the silly blanket statements

 

[Ricboff]

and to further your 'we have NO health care'...if ur sorry ass drops of a heart attack today, you're headed to a HOSPITAL (yup we have them!!!, still working!!). Have the courtesy to thank the staff afterwards for giving you life again....deal?...not bad for a country with 'NO health care'

 

[Coaster]

When you are sick you get sick care.
There is no money spent to take care of your health.
Tell me about your last physical(if your Dr. gave you one)
How long and what tests??
Mine was 5 minutes....wow!!

 

[tiznow]

Looks like the squeeze is finally over

Latest China PMI data point came in bad again... Oil getting gutted more

 

[tiznow]

Moody downgrade of bunch of banks coming soon

ZH snuffed it out early this morning ....

Acting like a bear with all this volatility technically very textbook ... Bounce at the 200 ... Back to the 50 on a squeeze .... If indeed a new bear ... next move should be to somewhere below the previous low .... Next level I'll likely try to play a bounce again is in the high 1100s-low 1200s

Still hoping we can see 1300 gold or thereabouts as this risk off phase plays out ...

 

[tiznow]

Here We Go: Moody's Downgrade Is Out - Morgan Stanley Cut Only 2 Notches, To Face $6.8 Billion In Collateral Calls
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 06/21/2012 - 17:26
Asset-Backed Securities BAC Bank Failures Bank of America Bank of America Barclays Bond Capital Markets Citibank Citigroup Commercial Real Estate Counterparties Credit Suisse Creditors default Deutsche Bank Eastern Europe European Central Bank Fail France Goldman Sachs goldman sachs Greece Ireland Italy JPMorgan Chase Market Conditions Market Share Morgan Stanley Nomura OTC ratings RBS Real estate Repo Market Risk Management Royal Bank of Scotland SocGen Sovereign Debt Sovereigns Swiss Banks United Kingdom Volatility Warren Buffett
Here we come:

MOODY'S CUTS 4 FIRMS BY 1 NOTCH
MOODY'S CUTS 10 FIRMS' RATINGS BY 2 NOTCHES
MOODY'S CUTS 1 FIRM BY 3 NOTCHES
MORGAN STANLEY L-T SR DEBT CUT TO Baa1 FROM A2 BY MOODY'S
MOODY'S CUTS MORGAN STANLEY 2 LEVELS, HAD SEEN UP TO 3
MORGAN STANLEY OUTLOOK NEGATIVE BY MOODY'S
MORGAN STANLEY S-T RATING CUT TO P-2 FROM P-1 BY MOODY'S
BANK OF AMERICA L-T SR DEBT CUT TO Baa2 BY MOODY'S;OUTLOOK NEG
So the reason for the delay were last minute negotiations, most certainly involving extensive monetary explanations, by Morgan Stanley's Gorman (potentially with Moody's investor Warren Buffett on the calle) to get only a two notch downgrade. And Wall Street wins again.

 

[SmallDaddy]

Moody downgrade of bunch of banks coming soon

ZH snuffed it out early this morning ....

Acting like a bear with all this volatility technically very textbook ... Bounce at the 200 ... Back to the 50 on a squeeze .... If indeed a new bear ... next move should be to somewhere below the previous low .... Next level I'll likely try to play a bounce again is in the high 1100s-low 1200s

Still hoping we can see 1300 gold or thereabouts as this risk off phase plays out ...

I am creaming at the thought of 1300 gold

 

[mickj]

you bullshit your friends and I'll bullshit mine, but lets not bullshit each other

Was woof a big Stones fan?:lolBIG:

 

[Coaster]

Moody downgrade of bunch of banks coming soon

ZH snuffed it out early this morning ....

Acting like a bear with all this volatility technically very textbook ... Bounce at the 200 ... Back to the 50 on a squeeze .... If indeed a new bear ... next move should be to somewhere below the previous low .... Next level I'll likely try to play a bounce again is in the high 1100s-low 1200s

Still hoping we can see 1300 gold or thereabouts as this risk off phase plays out ...

I think the Bernake hits the QE button before gold hits 1300....way before.

 

[Coaster]

and to further your 'we have NO health care'...if ur sorry ass drops of a heart attack today, you're headed to a HOSPITAL (yup we have them!!!, still working!!). Have the courtesy to thank the staff afterwards for giving you life again....deal?...not bad for a country with 'NO health care'

Not too hot in my eyes....


Canada’s waiting lists are also among the longest in the developed world. Consider for example, the 2010 findings from a survey of individuals in eleven nations, 10 of which maintain universal access health insurance programs. According to the Commonwealth Fund, among the 10 universal access nations surveyed (Australia, Canada, France, Germany, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, and the UK):

• Canadians were the most likely to wait four months or more for elective surgery; and were less likely to wait less than one month for elective surgery than all but Sweden;
• Canadians were the most likely to wait six days or longer to see a doctor or nurse when sick, and were the least likely (tied with Norway) to receive an appointment the same day or next day;
• Canadians were the most likely to wait two months or more for a specialist appointment and least likely to wait less than one month for a specialist appointment; and
• Canadians were the least likely to wait less than 30 minutes and most likely to wait four hours or more for access to an emergency room.

That is hardly the sort of access you might expect from one of the developed world’s most expensive universal access health insurance systems.

http://www.fraserinstitute.org/research-news/news/display.aspx?id=2147484441

 

[tiznow]

Long ways till sept 13th and then u got the sticky issue of do you QE 2 months before and election

I don't see them stepping in on the QE front till December meeting unless things get really really fugly 08 style

 

[eek.]

If there is one thing which will help the system recover, it's $50 oil

With 0.5% interest rates this would fuel a bit of a boom

 

[Coaster]

Long ways till sept 13th and then u got the sticky issue of do you QE 2 months before and election

I don't see them stepping in on the QE front till December meeting unless things get really really fugly 08 style

Both true......if your right and GLD starts to fall precipitously I will buy down on LEAPS. SLV and GLD
Wacky world of investing.