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Triple digit silver kook
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ditto what tiznow just posted.

very similar to when they downgrade stocks....after they've fallen off the cliff and rarely or never before.

:missingte
 

Dr. Is IN
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RIMM comes in with VERY good numbers....UP big AH....Market was looking for news like this before Christmas and got it
 

the bear is back biatches!! printing cancel....
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yeah techies bringing the holiday goods looks like

volume light well see what happens after new years
 

Triple digit silver kook
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My trading is finished until 2008.

Let's make the $ next year.

Last minute errands to do tomorrow.

:money8:
 

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cause they look at lagging indicators like GDP and jobs which you always point to :ohno:

anyway they will offically say we are in a recession when we are over 20% off the october highs but not before

if you want a sharp money manager that knows whats up go here

http://www.hussman.net/

Do you own HSGFX or HSTRX or both? I assume it's still a good fund to own in the impending climate?
 

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hsgfx

here's performance since 2000

10k would now be 22k

10 in S&P would now be 11.5k


http://www.hussman.net/pdf/hsgperf.pdf

did well when the tech bubble popped

its a conservative long term let it sit there not worry about it type play

should outperform the S&P over the long haul

unless a 90s type hysteria miraculously pops up

11.42% annual return with divy reinvestment since inception

he's just a conservative long term player trying to protect your money, so during major bull party times when valuations are out of the world he won't keep up

but he really hasn't had a opportunity yet to be in a super undervalued market

like he's said the 2002 bull started at the highest valuations in the history of bull markets at the same time
 

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also just another great thing the expense ratio is 1.11% bout the lowest you can find

and no load of course

so he isn't raping you like most funds do with high expenses and loads

he's the ron paul of the money manager world

one of the few honest guys out there :toast:

bottom line if you are one of those types that are worried about the current market climate but don't want to deal with following shit day to day, shorting etc, and plan on holding it for a long time

that fund is my #1 choice bar none

like he's said if you aren't willing to stick with him for a full market cycle don't bother its a buy and hold fund, and the only guy i trust doing that with
 

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also if you can hold it in your roth ira if you have one, if you don't you should...

pays a good deal of capital gains and dividends at the end of each year

so you don't have to pay taxes on it
 

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he's even got a charitable organization, so part of that 1.11% expense you pay going to a good cause and not somebody's pocket

http://www.hussmanfoundation.org/

just a great guy overall

--------------------------------------------------

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I just opened up an account with OptionsXpress. As soon as I get some money moved over, I'll pick some up. I'm definitely a "buy and hold" guy from now on.

Thanks for the info.
 

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Nice Big Geen Day for the markets as RIMM carried it up above 200 pts today.....People always like to feel good around the holidays and this will do it....Christmas Eve will be a very light day and for that matter the rest of the tear see you in 08!!
 

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my oil back to 97 now, gold 830

there is no inflation

and markets getting wacked pretty good too

stagflation looks like the end game
 

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Interest rates will start going up soon.
2008 will be a year of rises

:toast:

Things are going to start swinging towards cash.
 

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Interest rates will start going up soon.
2008 will be a year of rises

:toast:

Things are going to start swinging towards cash.





????EEK interest rates will take another 2-3 rounds of cuts as Big Ben makes sure elction year stays positive....so I don't think he will raise rates ANYTIME in 08' JMHO
 

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