All I can say is, did any of us not see this coming? I think some of us called it here a couple years ago. Ole Miss has never been able to recruit, then all of a sudden they are a recruiting juggernaut? If true, I hope they get hammered by the NCAA. But it probably won't happen.
http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/eye...my-tunsils-stepfather-met-with-ncaa-officials
http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/eye...my-tunsils-stepfather-met-with-ncaa-officials
NCAA speaks to Laremy Tunsil's stepfather in Ole Miss investigation
Lindsey Miller, the stepfather of Ole Miss offensive tackle Laremy Tunsil, met with NCAA officials on Friday to discuss potential NCAA rules violations he alleged following an incident with the star player.
Tunsil was arrested on June 27 for domestic violence after allegedly punching Miller. According to Tunsil, he struck Miller while defending his mother, alleging Miller had shoved her. Miller claims that the altercation stemmed from an argument he had with Tunsil's mother about Laremy "riding around with football agents."
That claim led to Miller meeting with the NCAA on Friday.
The Clarion-Ledger reports that Miller met with the NCAA's director of enforcement for football, Chris Howard, along with one other official for three hours Friday. Miller would not comment on what was discussed in the meeting.
Along with Tunsil being in contact with agents -- which is not an NCAA violation as long as Tunsil did not sign a contract or accept impermissible benefits (such as transportation, meals, etc.) -- Miller also told the Clarion-Ledger that he knows of violations that took place during Tunsil's recruitment to Ole Miss. Miller alleges there were falsified academic records, as well as gifts like cash, clothes and help with car insurance payments.
when he signed there were rumors that 100,000 reasons existed for him to choose Ole Miss over Georgia
funny you mention minor violations. not sure if you saw the self-reported ones from Bama last week but a few of them are pretty comical. One was that they had to report that a student-athlete posted a movie review on social media but because they used a legal free pass to attend the movie it was illegal for him, or her (can't remember the sport) to comment on the movie because they didn't have to pay to see the flick.
Ranking SEC by overall roster talent:
http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/ranking-sec-teams-based-on-average-talent-level/
[h=3]SEC TEAMS RANKED BY AVERAGE RECRUITING RANKING[/h]
http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/ranking-sec-teams-based-on-average-talent-level/
[h=3]SEC TEAMS RANKED BY AVERAGE RECRUITING RANKING[/h]
| Team | Avg. Rating | 4 Or 5-Star Players | Best | Worst |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1. Alabama | 4.1 | 64 | RB | QB/TE |
| 2. Georgia | 3.8 | 46 | RB | DB |
| 3. Texas A&M | 3.8 | 40 | QB | LB |
| 4. LSU | 3.7 | 46 | RB | TE |
| 5. Auburn | 3.6 | 44 | RB | TE |
| 6. Tennessee | 3.5 | 37 | QB | TE |
| 7. Florida | 3.5 | 33 | QB/RB | TE |
| 8. Ole Miss | 3.3 | 27 | DL | TE |
| 9. South Carolina | 3.3 | 26 | DL | RB/WR/TE |
| 10. Arkansas | 3.3 | 19 | QB/TE | LB/DB |
| 11. Mississippi State | 3.2 | 17 | RB | QB/TE |
| 12. Kentucky | 3.2 | 11 | QB | OL |
| 13. Missouri | 3.1 | 12 | QB | DB |
| 14. Vanderbilt | 3.1 | 8 | QB | WR/OL |
when he signed there were rumors that 100,000 reasons existed for him to choose Ole Miss over Georgia
funny you mention minor violations. not sure if you saw the self-reported ones from Bama last week but a few of them are pretty comical. One was that they had to report that a student-athlete posted a movie review on social media but because they used a legal free pass to attend the movie it was illegal for him, or her (can't remember the sport) to comment on the movie because they didn't have to pay to see the flick.
The NCAA is a total joke.
Honestly, Freeze made a comment several years ago (after the signing of the Tunsil class) that "if anyone has information about Ole Miss cheating (in recruiting) I want them to come forward". And, until now, NOTHING. Like I said, this is total sour grapes. If anything Tunsil would have gone to Florida (just 50 miles down the road from his home in Lake City, FL) than UGA.
Also listed in the chart above: each team’s most talent-rich and talent-poor position(s).
- There are five different SEC teams with at least 40 four- or five-star players: Alabama (64), Georgia (46), LSU (46), Auburn (44) and Texas A&M (40).
- Despite the conference’s reputation for sub-par quarterback talent at this juncture, the position represents the best (based on recruiting rankings) for seven different SEC teams, most in the league and just ahead of running back.
- Tight end is the least talent-rich position in the SEC, based solely on recruiting rankings. It’s the least-talented position for eight different SEC teams.
- The SEC West claims four of the five most talented SEC rosters, though Tennessee and Florida aren’t far behind.
- Vanderbilt is the only SEC team with single-digit numbers among four- and five-star players on the roster.
- Missouri’s average talent rating is tied with Vanderbilt for worst in the league. The Tigers’ 12 “quality” players are 12th, ahead of only the Commodores and Kentucky Wildcats. With back-to-back SEC East titles, Mizzou deserves carte blanche to brag about its talent identification and development.
- Half of the SEC hovers between 3.1 and 3.3, while there’s a gap of 0.5 between No. 1 Alabama and No. 5 Auburn.
- Interestingly, four of the five bottom teams are strongest at quarterback, at least in terms of recruiting rankings.
SEC's most JUCO dependent schools:
Here are three SEC teams that are likely to feature junior college transfers in prominent roles this season:
Ole Miss
The Rebels have 15 junior college players on the 2015 roster, including a handful of newcomers that could play significant roles this season. Chad Kelly, who is the nephew of Hall of Fame QB Jim Kelly, is competing for the starting quarterback role after transferring from East Mississippi Community College. DB Tony Bridges was one of the Rebels’ top recruits of the 2015 signing class. He is expected to start at cornerback alongside Tee Shepard, who also came to Ole Miss by way of junior college transfer. DT D.J. Jones should also contribute on a talented Ole Miss defensive front.
Auburn
The typically high-powered Tigers offense could feature a handful of junior college transfers as its top contributors this season. Leading returning receiver D’haquille Williams (45 catches, 730 yards, five touchdowns) was a junior college transfer from Mississippi Gulf Coast Community College prior to last season. Potential starting running back Jovon Robinson was on of the nation’s top junior college recruits in the 2015 signing class. He is joined by WR Jason Smith as another potential JUCO play maker for Gus Malzahn’s offense.
Mississippi State
Bulldogs coach Dan Mullen goes shopping for the big uglies at the junior college level. His roster is littered with large athletes that played at Mississippi-based junior college programs. Among them, Martinas Rankin (6-foot-5, 302-pounds) and Jocquell Johnson (6-foot-4, 300-pounds) are expected to help along the offensive line this season, while Darrion Hutcherson (6-foot-7, 260-pounds) could earn a starting role at tight end. WR Donald Gray, who was rated as a four-star recruit by 247Sports, should have an opportunity to make an impact for the Bulldogs in his first season on campus.
Here are three SEC teams that are likely to feature junior college transfers in prominent roles this season:
Ole Miss
The Rebels have 15 junior college players on the 2015 roster, including a handful of newcomers that could play significant roles this season. Chad Kelly, who is the nephew of Hall of Fame QB Jim Kelly, is competing for the starting quarterback role after transferring from East Mississippi Community College. DB Tony Bridges was one of the Rebels’ top recruits of the 2015 signing class. He is expected to start at cornerback alongside Tee Shepard, who also came to Ole Miss by way of junior college transfer. DT D.J. Jones should also contribute on a talented Ole Miss defensive front.
Auburn
The typically high-powered Tigers offense could feature a handful of junior college transfers as its top contributors this season. Leading returning receiver D’haquille Williams (45 catches, 730 yards, five touchdowns) was a junior college transfer from Mississippi Gulf Coast Community College prior to last season. Potential starting running back Jovon Robinson was on of the nation’s top junior college recruits in the 2015 signing class. He is joined by WR Jason Smith as another potential JUCO play maker for Gus Malzahn’s offense.
Mississippi State
Bulldogs coach Dan Mullen goes shopping for the big uglies at the junior college level. His roster is littered with large athletes that played at Mississippi-based junior college programs. Among them, Martinas Rankin (6-foot-5, 302-pounds) and Jocquell Johnson (6-foot-4, 300-pounds) are expected to help along the offensive line this season, while Darrion Hutcherson (6-foot-7, 260-pounds) could earn a starting role at tight end. WR Donald Gray, who was rated as a four-star recruit by 247Sports, should have an opportunity to make an impact for the Bulldogs in his first season on campus.
No shit! UGA was voted the most underachieving team in college football here:
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/7/1/8590729/georgia-football-history
Cost of Attendance. Personally, I think this is total unnecessary bullshit. If a kid needs money, they can get Pell Grants and student loans (like other college kids)...or if their parents can afford it, they can get help from their parents. This is going to end up being a Title IX problem as well (I predict). However, this is already an issue of "fairness" when it comes to recruiting. The money can't be different at each school. This needs to be nipped in the bud asap!
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Perhaps a good many SEC athletic directors should send their accountants up to Auburn for a lesson in cost of attendance. Auburn’s figure of $5,586 for cost of attendance beyond the athletic scholarship ranks second only to Tennessee in both the Southeastern Conference and nationally, dwarfing the $3,320 that Florida will spend per scholarship athlete. Anyone who doesn’t think Auburn, Tennessee and the others offering $4,000 and above will use that for a recruiting advantage is just fooling himself.
Auburn’s already pointing it out to every recruit and if Auburn is doing it you can bet every assistant coach on the recruiting trail has memorized who’s paying what for cost of attendance and using it whenever possible.
According to the Montgomery Advertiser, Auburn divided its cost of attendance figure into two parts: $2,728 for personal expenses and $2,858 for transportation. Consider personal expenses. If, for example, a cell phone with a data plan costs $80 a month, that’s $960 for a full year, leaving $1,768 or less than $150 a month. Auburn used $3 per gallon for gas and an average of 20 miles per gallon when factoring in costs for transportation.
Says Mike Reynolds, the executive director of Student Financial Services at Auburn, “That’s not a crazy figure either. It makes me wonder how some of the other schools that have lower [personal cost figures], how they do it?”
Indeed, how do they do it?
The $80 for cell phone and data isn’t outrageous but at Florida, that would amount to 28.9% of the cost of attendance money. If a student-athlete puts an average of 1,000 miles a month on his/her car – not outrageous if you consider it’s nearly 300 miles round trip to Tampa; more than 360 round trip to Sarasota and more than 540 round trip to West Palm Beach – it would equate to 600 gallons of gas and $1,800 in transportation expenses. Cell phone and transportation based on those averages would leave $560 for the rest of the year.
Based on Auburn’s way of calculating the numbers, you have to think $3,320 is a rather low figure. You also have to think Auburn will exploit that on the recruiting trail and the schools that are well below $4,000 for the year better figure out a way to narrow the gap or else they’ll lose recruits. Just as kids understand the expenditures for facilities equal commitment, they will consider cost of a higher cost of attendance as commitment as well.
Per the Chronicle of High Education figures here is the cost of room, board, tuition, books and fees followed by the amount of money that will be tackled on to cover the actual cost of attendance at SEC schools plus in-state rivals Florida and Miami.
1. Tennessee: $23,710/$5,666
2. Auburn: $23,578/$5,586
3. Mississippi State: $17,294/$5,126
4. Ole Miss: $18,024/$4,500
5. South Carolina: $21,414/$4,151
6. Arkansas: $19,064/$4,002
7. Missouri: $21,040/$3,654
8. Florida: $17,230/$3,320
9. LSU: $24,192/$3,096
10. Alabama: $24,542/$2,892
11. Vanderbilt: $61,470/$2,780
12. Texas A&M: $19,764/$2,706
13. Georgia: $20,082/$2,598
14. Kentucky: $21,464/$2,284
Miami: $59,162/$2,780
Florida State: $17,800/$3,884
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Perhaps a good many SEC athletic directors should send their accountants up to Auburn for a lesson in cost of attendance. Auburn’s figure of $5,586 for cost of attendance beyond the athletic scholarship ranks second only to Tennessee in both the Southeastern Conference and nationally, dwarfing the $3,320 that Florida will spend per scholarship athlete. Anyone who doesn’t think Auburn, Tennessee and the others offering $4,000 and above will use that for a recruiting advantage is just fooling himself.
Auburn’s already pointing it out to every recruit and if Auburn is doing it you can bet every assistant coach on the recruiting trail has memorized who’s paying what for cost of attendance and using it whenever possible.
According to the Montgomery Advertiser, Auburn divided its cost of attendance figure into two parts: $2,728 for personal expenses and $2,858 for transportation. Consider personal expenses. If, for example, a cell phone with a data plan costs $80 a month, that’s $960 for a full year, leaving $1,768 or less than $150 a month. Auburn used $3 per gallon for gas and an average of 20 miles per gallon when factoring in costs for transportation.
Says Mike Reynolds, the executive director of Student Financial Services at Auburn, “That’s not a crazy figure either. It makes me wonder how some of the other schools that have lower [personal cost figures], how they do it?”
Indeed, how do they do it?
The $80 for cell phone and data isn’t outrageous but at Florida, that would amount to 28.9% of the cost of attendance money. If a student-athlete puts an average of 1,000 miles a month on his/her car – not outrageous if you consider it’s nearly 300 miles round trip to Tampa; more than 360 round trip to Sarasota and more than 540 round trip to West Palm Beach – it would equate to 600 gallons of gas and $1,800 in transportation expenses. Cell phone and transportation based on those averages would leave $560 for the rest of the year.
Based on Auburn’s way of calculating the numbers, you have to think $3,320 is a rather low figure. You also have to think Auburn will exploit that on the recruiting trail and the schools that are well below $4,000 for the year better figure out a way to narrow the gap or else they’ll lose recruits. Just as kids understand the expenditures for facilities equal commitment, they will consider cost of a higher cost of attendance as commitment as well.
Per the Chronicle of High Education figures here is the cost of room, board, tuition, books and fees followed by the amount of money that will be tackled on to cover the actual cost of attendance at SEC schools plus in-state rivals Florida and Miami.
1. Tennessee: $23,710/$5,666
2. Auburn: $23,578/$5,586
3. Mississippi State: $17,294/$5,126
4. Ole Miss: $18,024/$4,500
5. South Carolina: $21,414/$4,151
6. Arkansas: $19,064/$4,002
7. Missouri: $21,040/$3,654
8. Florida: $17,230/$3,320
9. LSU: $24,192/$3,096
10. Alabama: $24,542/$2,892
11. Vanderbilt: $61,470/$2,780
12. Texas A&M: $19,764/$2,706
13. Georgia: $20,082/$2,598
14. Kentucky: $21,464/$2,284
Miami: $59,162/$2,780
Florida State: $17,800/$3,884
i don't have a lot of compassion for this kid and never thought he was worth the backlash a 2nd chance would (and did) create but sure looks like he got a raw deal on this one. hope he keeps his nose clean and fists away when he goes the JUCO route...
A domestic violence charge against former University of Alabama player Jonathan Taylor was dropped Tuesday as part of a plea agreement.
Taylor was arrested on March 28 in Tuscaloosa after his girlfriend told police he had injured her neck and punched a hole in a closet at her off-campus apartment. She recanted her story two days later, prompting investigators to file a charge of false reporting to law enforcement against her. That case is also pending.
The woman, 24, told investigators that she made up the allegations because Taylor cheated on her in December and she suspected him of cheating again, according to court records.
As part of the plea agreement, Taylor will be required to pay court costs, restitution and take anger management classes.
A domestic violence charge against former University of Alabama player Jonathan Taylor was dropped Tuesday as part of a plea agreement.
Taylor was arrested on March 28 in Tuscaloosa after his girlfriend told police he had injured her neck and punched a hole in a closet at her off-campus apartment. She recanted her story two days later, prompting investigators to file a charge of false reporting to law enforcement against her. That case is also pending.
The woman, 24, told investigators that she made up the allegations because Taylor cheated on her in December and she suspected him of cheating again, according to court records.
As part of the plea agreement, Taylor will be required to pay court costs, restitution and take anger management classes.
4-Star Bama RB Ruled Ineligible
(what I don't understand is how he was allowed to enroll and participate in Spring practice...and he's obviously passed his classes since he's been on campus, which is the Spring semester and Summer A semester. Also, I doubt he ever returns to Bama...which is his "plan"...we all know how that works).
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...ee-to-go-juco-route-likely-to-return-to-tide/
When last we left DeSherrius Flowers, the 2015 Alabama signee was ruled ineligible due to what the university is calling a recently discovered initial eligibility issue and his future with the Tide seemed up in the air. Now, though, we’ve gotten a peek at just what the future will hold.
Immediately, his high school coach told al.com, the running back is headed to a Mississippi junior college. After that, it’s likely Flowers will return to the Tide.
“I don’t think this has changed his relationship with Alabama as far as I know,” Ashley Johnson said. “He loves Alabama. That’s where he wanted to be. And as far as they were concerned, he was good to go obviously or they wouldn’t have brought him on board in January and got him in school. As far as they were concerned, his eligibility looked great — from the coaching staff and the college itself.”
As for when Flowers would return to Tuscaloosa, Johnson is unsure if it will be one year or two for Flowers at the JUCO. Johnson, though, is leaning toward it being the latter, which means Flowers wouldn’t return to the Tide until the 2017 season.
(what I don't understand is how he was allowed to enroll and participate in Spring practice...and he's obviously passed his classes since he's been on campus, which is the Spring semester and Summer A semester. Also, I doubt he ever returns to Bama...which is his "plan"...we all know how that works).
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...ee-to-go-juco-route-likely-to-return-to-tide/
When last we left DeSherrius Flowers, the 2015 Alabama signee was ruled ineligible due to what the university is calling a recently discovered initial eligibility issue and his future with the Tide seemed up in the air. Now, though, we’ve gotten a peek at just what the future will hold.
Immediately, his high school coach told al.com, the running back is headed to a Mississippi junior college. After that, it’s likely Flowers will return to the Tide.
“I don’t think this has changed his relationship with Alabama as far as I know,” Ashley Johnson said. “He loves Alabama. That’s where he wanted to be. And as far as they were concerned, he was good to go obviously or they wouldn’t have brought him on board in January and got him in school. As far as they were concerned, his eligibility looked great — from the coaching staff and the college itself.”
As for when Flowers would return to Tuscaloosa, Johnson is unsure if it will be one year or two for Flowers at the JUCO. Johnson, though, is leaning toward it being the latter, which means Flowers wouldn’t return to the Tide until the 2017 season.
Running back depth at Alabama is usually not a problem and barring injury won't be this year. Due to one back transferring, one tearing his ACL and one being ruled ineligible, the RB coach will have a smaller group to work with.
The one-two punch of Derrick Henry and Kenyan Drake will be potent with Henry carrying the bulk of the load. At 6-3, 245 pounds, he is a load for any defense. Drake (6-1, 212) offers a great option with his speed and pass catching ability. Five star recruit Damien Harris (5-11, 207) offers great potential. Harris was rated the No. 1 RB recruit out of high school.
Under Saban, the two back system has done well for the offense...will again this season.
The one-two punch of Derrick Henry and Kenyan Drake will be potent with Henry carrying the bulk of the load. At 6-3, 245 pounds, he is a load for any defense. Drake (6-1, 212) offers a great option with his speed and pass catching ability. Five star recruit Damien Harris (5-11, 207) offers great potential. Harris was rated the No. 1 RB recruit out of high school.
Under Saban, the two back system has done well for the offense...will again this season.
NCAA ruled that his ACT score jumping from single digits the first time he took it (exact # not disclosed) to a 19 (second time he took it) was not possible. So there wasn't a whole lot Bama can do about enrolling him...he had the test scores and graduated, so why shouldn't he be allowed to enroll?
The gist of the ruling was that it was an "irregular" jump in test score although they have no evidence of wrongdoing. Because he was a January enrollment the NCAA didn't get around to checking out incoming freshman test scores until May/June (since most enroll in summer) and so they had to cut him loose despite already being in school for 6 months.
Perhaps it happens a bit but I've never heard of the NCAA basically invalidating someone's ACT or SAT score (6+ months after the fact) as it is very common to score much better on 2nd and 3rd tries than on your first attempt. Because it's such a strange case the NCAA may allow him to re-enroll next year instead of using up 2 years at JUCO level. Of course he says he's coming back to the Tide but i can count on one hand the number of Bama commits that went JUCO and actually came back to the Capstone
... as if not bizarre enough the Tide is now on the hook for potential NCAA penalties for having an ineligible player on campus through spring football even though by all known info he was 100% eligible. #%()
