SEC atop the draft again

[Conan]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta00
You're right, I have poor math skills. SEC had only 3.1 players per team selected. Putting them behind the Pac-10 and Big East

hahaha
only in disneyworld is 37 "behind" 32

hahaha, who did you say was going to twist the facts?
Have at it...

LSU - 6
UGA - 6
USC - 11
Oregon - 7
Oregon St. -7

I have a good idea for you. If you would like to see the SEC remain on top with the most NFL draft picks, all you need to do is expand the conference to 24 teams!

 

[ChrisParadise]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta00
You're right, I have poor math skills. SEC had only 3.1 players per team selected. Putting them behind the Pac-10 and Big East



hahaha, who did you say was going to twist the facts?
Have at it...

LSU - 6
UGA - 6
USC - 11
Oregon - 7
Oregon St. -7

I have a good idea for you. If you would like to see the SEC remain on top with the most NFL draft picks, all you need to do is expand the conference to 24 teams!

wow, so take out USC and the Oregon schools and the rest of the conference had a total of 7 players drafted from the 7 remaining teams??

holy shit thats weak

 

[Delta00]

The bottom 5 SEC teams had 4 players drafted. holy shit thats weak

 

[Conan]

wow, so take out USC and the Oregon schools and the rest of the conference had a total of 7 players drafted from the 7 remaining teams??

holy shit thats weak

No it isn't. The Pac-10 has about 20% less schools that play in it than the SEC. Take out the top 3 from each conference and the SEC still has 2 more teams to count than the Pac-10 does. That's why the per team average means more than your twisted way of looking at it.

Besides, what do those numbers do to your Pac-1 idea? If the NFL draft means anything, the SEC only has 3 teams that compare to the top 3 Pac-10 teams... well actually, 3 "elite" SEC teams do match up to a couple of the Pac dwarves. USC had nearly twice as many picks as either UGA or LSU, 2 of your 3 so called "elite."

I guess one could say that USC is twice what any of your elite teams are. That surprises even me, especially now that the Pac-dwarves from Oregon are equal to your elite as far as the NFL scouts are concerned.

You are desperate to disprove what that means. I think that's hillarious.

 

[ChrisParadise]

The bottom 5 SEC teams had 4 players drafted. holy shit thats weak

ok so the SEC goes 7 deep and the pac10 goes 3 deep? thats what your sayin ?

 

[ChrisParadise]

No it isn't. The Pac-10 has about 20% less schools that play in it than the SEC. Take out the top 3 from each conference and the SEC still has 2 more teams to count than the Pac-10 does. That's why the per team average means more than your twisted way of looking at it.

Besides, what do those numbers do to your Pac-1 idea? If the NFL draft means anything, the SEC only has 3 teams that compare to the top 3 Pac-10 teams... well actually, 3 "elite" SEC teams do match up to a couple of the Pac dwarves. USC had nearly twice as many picks as either UGA or LSU, 2 of your 3 so called "elite."

I guess one could say that USC is twice what any of your elite teams are. That surprises even me, especially now that the Pac-dwarves from Oregon are equal to your elite as far as the NFL scouts are concerned.

You are desperate to disprove what that means. I think that's hillarious.

twist numbers and take away and add teams all you want to...

the bottom line like i said is the SEC had more players drafted, more 1st rd players drafted, and more players in the NFL already

those are facts.

 

[ChrisParadise]

this thread from the start had nothing to do with the pac-10...why must you make everything pac-10 related. the world east of boise dont give a fuck about the pac-10 so shut up already and keep it in you and your rommates thread

i could start posting in your pac-10 thread like you do every SEC related thread..but guess why i dont?

think hard...

cause i dont care to read it..its mickey mouse football...you guys on the other hand are obsessed with the SEC

 

[Conan]

twist numbers and take away and add teams all you want to...

the bottom line like i said is the SEC had more players drafted, more 1st rd players drafted, and more players in the NFL already

those are facts.

The fact is that the SEC's numbers have been slipping. It's just like a Volfan to live on past glory. By the way, did Tennessee place any? One? Nice. Washington State also had one. They are one of the bottom dwellers in the Pac-10.

Rock bottom is another way to put it. Now why does that remind me of Tennessee?

 

[ChrisParadise]

The fact is that the SEC's numbers have been slipping. It's just like a Volfan to live on past glory. By the way, did Tennessee place any? One? Nice. Washington State also had one. They are one of the bottom dwellers in the Pac-10.

Rock bottom is another way to put it. Now why does that remind me of Tennessee?

thats not related or relevant to what you quoted?
its not related or relevant to the original thread

i dont understand what your point is?

you just playing the clutter game now ?

 

[CoachCB]

UF had 3 players drafted.....one of them didn't play 1 down this year....and STILL won the National Championship.

Now THAT is impressive!!!

 

[Flsunman]

You don't understand the concept of how the SEC has more teams so it has more picks? On a per team basis the SEC is behind.

Using your logic the minor D1 programs are better than the SEC because they had more players picked.

Thats false and misleading. For example, Florida ONLY had 5 eligible players who entered the draft where USC had 11-12?

It's all about who had more players leave.

Alabama for example only had 6 or 7 as well.

 

[Flsunman]

No it isn't. The Pac-10 has about 20% less schools that play in it than the SEC. Take out the top 3 from each conference and the SEC still has 2 more teams to count than the Pac-10 does. That's why the per team average means more than your twisted way of looking at it.

Besides, what do those numbers do to your Pac-1 idea? If the NFL draft means anything, the SEC only has 3 teams that compare to the top 3 Pac-10 teams... well actually, 3 "elite" SEC teams do match up to a couple of the Pac dwarves. USC had nearly twice as many picks as either UGA or LSU, 2 of your 3 so called "elite."

I guess one could say that USC is twice what any of your elite teams are. That surprises even me, especially now that the Pac-dwarves from Oregon are equal to your elite as far as the NFL scouts are concerned.

You are desperate to disprove what that means. I think that's hillarious.

It's not how many teams... it's how many PLAYERS total from each conference entered the draft.

Again UF had a total of 5 players enter, that's all...

 

[Conan]

i said nothing untrue in my original post in this thread... i stated facts / an observation..and you turn it into a pac-10/sec thing and start acting like a woman

word to the wise, stop putting pac-10 propoganda in non pac-10 threads and your pac-10 thread will have less random posts

Is this thread about the SEC and the NFL draft or isn't it? It's not Pac-10 propaganda, it's you who hates to be proven wrong, especially where UT is involved. OUCH! But as long as UT is part of the SEC, then they will be held accountable like the rest of the SEC.

Everything I said is an anti-SEC rebuttal. It's not about what you said and whether it was true or not. I didn't dispute your facts. 8 players in the first round is commendable but there's no reason to say that the rest of the draft beyond the first round is a bunch of shit. Don't go there. Nobody will buy it.

So let me get this... Are you saying that only certain types of rebuttal posts are allowed provided that the Pac-10 isn't mentioned in them? The reason why I ask is because that's the conference that I know and can use in examples to refute your statements, not to hijack your topic. I don't do it to tout the Pac-10, just to answer your homer bullshit with what I readily know. I do it neither for the purpose of hijacking your thread nor to spam you. Get a grip for God sakes.

Another thing... Maybe I was being too "insensitive" with my "rocky bottom" comment. A couple of women said that about me in the past too. I had no idea you'd take it so hard and spam my thread in a fit of emotional rage. I thought it was pretty good. Still do.

Maybe I should have just stuck with MWC "propaganda" instead and just called out Bama for their crappy performance in the Sugar Bowl -- how much better Utah played them than Florida did in the SECCG. Utah even had the same number of players taken in the draft as Alabama. (I was getting to that.) But it's worth mentioning that they also let their play on the field do their talking for them. The NFL noticed. What have you got?

Better now? I'm not sure if you are happy yet so I'll go on a little more without mentioning the Pac-10 as long as possible.

The Big East had more players per team drafted than the SEC. Even Cincinnatti had just as many drafted as your "elite" LSU and UGA. Or how about UCONN and Utah having as many drafted as Auburn or Mississippi or Alabama? Who am I to judge when all the NFL scouts agree that one of the "Pac-shits," Oregon State, had more to offer the NFL (7) than all of the "elite" SEC schools? Those are also facts. They don't mention USC either.

Sorry man. I really didn't mean to make it all about Oregon State or any of the (3) Pac-10 teams that beat out all of the SEC elite. But it is a valid counterpoint against the SEC being on top of the NFL draft which is the topic. But it also answers you calling the Pac-10 "USC and the 9 dwarves." 2 birds with one stone. I couldn't resist. Thanks for the setup.

 

[5-0SAT]

Makes sense seeing how the SEC is the NFL of NCAA Football.

Low scoring games.
Defense prevails or offense can't do anything.
Boring to watch.
On CBS.

 

[ChrisParadise]

UF had 3 players drafted.....one of them didn't play 1 down this year....and STILL won the National Championship.

Now THAT is impressive!!!

yeah that is insane..id guess thats the least # from a title team in the modern era

 

[Flsunman]

The point is... UF sent ONLY 5 players TOTAL to the draft. Conan wants to talk about players per team, this yet another OOC argument or air miles argument. At the end of the day the SEC had the most players drafted and most first rounders. But Oregon logged more air miles and had more 3rd rounders than ANY SEC team!

 

[Flsunman]

Makes sense seeing how the SEC is the NFL of NCAA Football.

Low scoring games.
Defense prevails or offense can't do anything.
Boring to watch.
On CBS.

Thanks for the Oklahoma pick... I guess defense truly does win championships.

And btw... CBS has far and away the BEST HD picture of any of the networks. It's almost like you are at the game regardless of which conference they chose to air.

But let's be real, they chose the SEC bc it's the best thing going and gets the best ratings. Like anything else, it's all about the $$$.

At least Arizona State has a ton air miles that they can use for a trip on the off week to see LSU play and see what real football is all about. Oh wait didn't they learn that in Tempe last year?

 

[russ1945]

I still don't get all the posturing about conferences. It is a perpetual pissing contest. All of you have made some good points and most of you jump on the smallest bone there is to pick.
As far as the SEC goes it is a tough call like Coach points out, where does bad QBing (offense) stop and good defense begin. As far as the Pac 10 goes it has been dominated by USC and it could be that won't change for a while. Even if the other Pac 10 teams improve that still might not make any difference. I will say this, the fan support in the SEC may be the best if the recent turnouts for the Spring games means anything. Very impressive to say the least. I think the main thing that differentiates the Pac 10 from the SEC is in fact the fans. SEC fans go to war and the West Coast fans are more laid back. It is a shame that there aren't more Pac 10 fans like Conan and Ducks and because they are a minority they get worn down and outnumbered by the SEC fans. But their spirit is not diminished and I admire them for their tenacity.
As far as what all this accomplishes is another question. But we are going into a virtual "football silence" for a while. I still think there are much more constructive things to do than play verbal ping pong where you can only score when you a serving. Lots of wasted energy imho, but wtf.

 

[5-0SAT]

Bottomline is that USC (the real USC not the one in the SEC) dominated the draft. And it shouldn't matter one bit, cause as far as I can suffice this is the college football forum. I bet on NCAA football played on Saturday's not the overextended overcommercialized NFL played on Sunday's. Let's concentrate on how we can win $$$ on college ball, and go to the NFL forum to get your high or your buzz or orgasm, or whatever u SEC people get everytime you mention your conference.

 

[russ1945]

bottomline is that usc (the real usc not the one in the sec) dominated the draft. And it shouldn't matter one bit, cause as far as i can suffice this is the college football forum. I bet on ncaa football played on saturday's not the overextended overcommercialized nfl played on sunday's. Let's concentrate on how we can win $$$ on college ball, and go to the nfl forum to get your high or your buzz or orgasm, or whatever u sec people get everytime you mention your conference.

yeah, what you said!