<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Lastly, be careful sending your name and address to other venues that offer insurance.
Our attornies have infomed us that if Uncle Sam goes after such an entity that is breaking the law, Uncle already has a sealed confession with a paper trail that you are gambling by being on the list of insured gamblers...
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Or worse, what about if you post something on Peep's board that he doesn't like, and decides to retaliate by ratting you out to the authorities? It wouldn't be the first time someone ended up in jail because of Peep's big mouth.
Not to mention that giving such personal information sets one up to be a victim of identity theft/fraud.
Our attornies have infomed us that if Uncle Sam goes after such an entity that is breaking the law, Uncle already has a sealed confession with a paper trail that you are gambling by being on the list of insured gamblers...
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Or worse, what about if you post something on Peep's board that he doesn't like, and decides to retaliate by ratting you out to the authorities? It wouldn't be the first time someone ended up in jail because of Peep's big mouth.
Not to mention that giving such personal information sets one up to be a victim of identity theft/fraud.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by THE SHRINK:
lakerfan,
Where and in whose name would the money be sent if you NEED the insurance?
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transferred to another book, I believe, you only need another account at a separate book. I may be wrong, but I think the BOOKS are the only ones the handle your personal information though the SGA program, and probably OGD's as well. So therefore, no different than giving your name and address to any offshore book.
lakerfan,
Where and in whose name would the money be sent if you NEED the insurance?
transferred to another book, I believe, you only need another account at a separate book. I may be wrong, but I think the BOOKS are the only ones the handle your personal information though the SGA program, and probably OGD's as well. So therefore, no different than giving your name and address to any offshore book.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The General:
SGA is newer to us than Betpanam. Who guarantees SGA?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
It is a coaltion of books which have agreed to "protect" each other. Some decent books in their too...
they are as good as the books they have in their group. I have a hard time believing 5dimes would be involved if the risk was high
SGA is newer to us than Betpanam. Who guarantees SGA?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
It is a coaltion of books which have agreed to "protect" each other. Some decent books in their too...
they are as good as the books they have in their group. I have a hard time believing 5dimes would be involved if the risk was high
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by drunkguy:
It is a coaltion of books which have agreed to "protect" each other. Some decent books in their too...
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My God,
Listen to your own words. When you have to ADD on that there are "some decent books too," you are implying that the other books are not!
Sheesh!
It is a coaltion of books which have agreed to "protect" each other. Some decent books in their too...
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My God,
Listen to your own words. When you have to ADD on that there are "some decent books too," you are implying that the other books are not!
Sheesh!
drunkguy,
You seem happy with that. I am glad. We will travel our road and see what happens. There are many top books around who need no insurance. I can send my money to pinny, wsex, wwts, Oly, 365, etc.. without insurance and be just as happy. This idea can be a very good thing for all of us. I am cautiously optimistic that something good can happen. Why be any other way?
You seem happy with that. I am glad. We will travel our road and see what happens. There are many top books around who need no insurance. I can send my money to pinny, wsex, wwts, Oly, 365, etc.. without insurance and be just as happy. This idea can be a very good thing for all of us. I am cautiously optimistic that something good can happen. Why be any other way?
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The General:
drunkguy,
You seem happy with that. I am glad. We will travel our road and see what happens. There are many top books around who need no insurance. I can send my money to pinny, wsex, wwts, Oly, 365, etc.. without insurance and be just as happy. This idea can be a very good thing for all of us. I am cautiously optimistic that something good can happen. Why be any other way?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Because General, rarely a fish caught on the hook gets away!!
drunkguy,
You seem happy with that. I am glad. We will travel our road and see what happens. There are many top books around who need no insurance. I can send my money to pinny, wsex, wwts, Oly, 365, etc.. without insurance and be just as happy. This idea can be a very good thing for all of us. I am cautiously optimistic that something good can happen. Why be any other way?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Because General, rarely a fish caught on the hook gets away!!
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by THE SHRINK:
My God,
Listen to your own words. When you have to ADD on that there are _"some decent books too," _ you are implying that the other books are not!
Sheesh!
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I was not implying anything, just saying that there are indeed high quality books there for people not familiar with it.
Cascade, linesmaker, Ehorse, Jazz, 5dimes, ABC islands, Las Palmas, Autobet are the current books I believe. Each has agreed to take on the debt of the others if one goes down. 5 dimes and Jazz alone should be enough to soothe any worries. You ytourself recently said Cascade's new backing is solid
and all they need is an email address to register and your account number. Not my real name and address, etc.
Certainly better books than Blue Marlin, PanAm, Gamblers Ave before they were bailed out by Royal, etc
SGA...Apex players PAID
OGD: PanAM players PAID, Apex players PAID
we can talk semantics all day, but results and the BOTTOM LINE is what counts in the end
My God,
Listen to your own words. When you have to ADD on that there are _"some decent books too," _ you are implying that the other books are not!
Sheesh!
I was not implying anything, just saying that there are indeed high quality books there for people not familiar with it.
Cascade, linesmaker, Ehorse, Jazz, 5dimes, ABC islands, Las Palmas, Autobet are the current books I believe. Each has agreed to take on the debt of the others if one goes down. 5 dimes and Jazz alone should be enough to soothe any worries. You ytourself recently said Cascade's new backing is solid
and all they need is an email address to register and your account number. Not my real name and address, etc.
Certainly better books than Blue Marlin, PanAm, Gamblers Ave before they were bailed out by Royal, etc
SGA...Apex players PAID
OGD: PanAM players PAID, Apex players PAID
we can talk semantics all day, but results and the BOTTOM LINE is what counts in the end
Good feedback.
I'm a little surprized that the crowd yells "work together!" but when there is a starting point people come out and scream nothing will work.
Its hard to understand why any of us, site owners and players, would argue against a two year waiting period knowing that this would of all but eliminated the failures of the past.
I'm a little surprized that the crowd yells "work together!" but when there is a starting point people come out and scream nothing will work.
Its hard to understand why any of us, site owners and players, would argue against a two year waiting period knowing that this would of all but eliminated the failures of the past.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by THE SHRINK:
drunkguy,
Feel free to play wherever you believe the safest places are located...
But ask yourself, why aren't sports books such as PINNACLE, WWTS, WSEX, OLYMPIC, BODOG, & CANBET participating in such a SAFE environment?
Ken<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ken.. could you answer a simple question...
What have YOU done for the players that were stiffed by PanAm, Blue Marlin and Gamblers Avenue (all advertisers at this site)?
Thanks in advance for your answer.
drunkguy,
Feel free to play wherever you believe the safest places are located...
But ask yourself, why aren't sports books such as PINNACLE, WWTS, WSEX, OLYMPIC, BODOG, & CANBET participating in such a SAFE environment?
Ken<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ken.. could you answer a simple question...
What have YOU done for the players that were stiffed by PanAm, Blue Marlin and Gamblers Avenue (all advertisers at this site)?
Thanks in advance for your answer.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by THE SHRINK:
drunkguy,
But ask yourself, why aren't sports books such as PINNACLE, WWTS, WSEX, OLYMPIC, BODOG, & CANBET participating in such a SAFE environment?
Ken<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
C'mon ken, you are smarter than that...
Easy answer...why would a sportsbook allow themselves to be regulated in any way (escrow or otherwise) when they don't NEED to be? That is why we have governments that pass laws to regulate business activities. Until there is a reason for them to do so, they will not. There is absolutely NO BENEFIT in the book being regulated in any way...all the benefit lies on the player side. It is that simple. The only reason for them to do so at this time is as a marketing device to get more players. Obviously the books you mention do not feel that protection would draw enough new players to make the downside worthwhile.
The way to get everyone to join such a "safe" program would be to make it nearly mandatory, by having all "watchdogs" requiring a book to be protected or escrowed before recommending them or allowing them to advertise.
drunkguy,
But ask yourself, why aren't sports books such as PINNACLE, WWTS, WSEX, OLYMPIC, BODOG, & CANBET participating in such a SAFE environment?
Ken<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
C'mon ken, you are smarter than that...
Easy answer...why would a sportsbook allow themselves to be regulated in any way (escrow or otherwise) when they don't NEED to be? That is why we have governments that pass laws to regulate business activities. Until there is a reason for them to do so, they will not. There is absolutely NO BENEFIT in the book being regulated in any way...all the benefit lies on the player side. It is that simple. The only reason for them to do so at this time is as a marketing device to get more players. Obviously the books you mention do not feel that protection would draw enough new players to make the downside worthwhile.
The way to get everyone to join such a "safe" program would be to make it nearly mandatory, by having all "watchdogs" requiring a book to be protected or escrowed before recommending them or allowing them to advertise.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The General:
2 years minimum is a very good start. I think the RX alone should take this approach in the future no matter the outome of this meeting.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Seems like a no-brainer to me.
I agree.
2 years minimum is a very good start. I think the RX alone should take this approach in the future no matter the outome of this meeting.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Seems like a no-brainer to me.
I agree.
HTRC,
Why ask a question you know the answer to?
I don't OWN any of these companies, and it is not this site's responsibiity to pay out if they go bad...
What you failed to cite are the plethora of quality sites we have listed over the years and the many gamblers who were saved ...
At least now there are better options for the players like yourself to choose from...
Ken
Why ask a question you know the answer to?
I don't OWN any of these companies, and it is not this site's responsibiity to pay out if they go bad...
What you failed to cite are the plethora of quality sites we have listed over the years and the many gamblers who were saved ...
At least now there are better options for the players like yourself to choose from...
Ken
