Larry Ness was with Fiest and Smoking Dave Coken . On Proline. Andy Lasky aka Mike. Tag your visa Warren was a whole mother bird. With The Professor Horowitz The old days. Rip Larry Nessnot really good, somehow, someway he has been around for many years before the internet he was on those TV shows that promoted handicappers services, I think Jim Feist got the air time and produced the shows. I think Mike Warren, was involved, if you don't know who Mike Warren is, your in luck! He used to send out flyers both East and West Coast, on the east coast picking Notre Dame and on West Coast USC. I think the name of the show was PRO Picks. Then he was on another TV show with Wayne Root. So he was no Legend as far as handicapping of football but legend for being in business so long.