Opening Line Report - Week 11
By Marcus DiNitto
When there’s a disparity between how a college football team is rated by oddsmakers and how it’s rated by pollsters, most folks in the wagering world give more weight to the former.
Heading into Week 11, Southern Cal is such a team. Since their 1-3 start, with losses to Alabama, at Stanford and at Utah, the Trojans have won five straight, and their resurgence coincides with coach Clay Helton’s decision to start Sam Darnold in place of Max Browne at quarterback. The freshman’s first start was at Utah, when USC had a 27-17 lead in the fourth quarter before two late touchdowns by the Utes gave the home side the win.
Southern Cal, though, failed to crack the top 25 this week in either the AP or the coaches’ poll. On Saturday, the Trojans visit Washington as they try to spoil the Huskies’ undefeated season.
Ed Salmons, manager at the Westgate Las Vegas SuperBook, believes USC is seriously underrated, not by the oddsmakers, but by the media members and coaches who vote in the polls.
“How USC is not ranked, I don’t know how that’s humanly possible,” Salmons said. “USC, since they switched quarterbacks, has been playing as well as Washington, except they lost to Alabama and they lost to Stanford early in the year. And the first game the kid started was when the played at Utah, and that’s a game they should have won. ... Since then, they’re killing everyone. They’ve been destroying teams week in and week out. USC has a real good shot to go out there and beat (Washington).”
There was some variance with the opening betting lines on this Pac-12 showdown. CG Technology hung Washington -7.5, while the Wynn went -9.5.
“Our oddsmakers ranged from 6.5 all the way to 9.5. We had a discussion and settled at 7.5,” said Jason Simbal, vice president of risk at CG Tech.
Simbal said his book drew small bets on both sides of that number Sunday while wiseguys left the game alone. But on Monday, line-influencing money showed up on the favorite, pushing the number to 9.
The Wynn was bet from -9.5 to -10, but then back to -9 on Sunday and to -8 on Monday.
While some college football observers griped that Washington was not in the top four of the playoff selection committee’s first rankings of the season, Avello said we’ll learn more about the Huskies on Saturday.
“(USC is) gonna go in thinking they have a shot,” Avello said. “They lost to this team last year in a really close game. This is the biggest test, for me, for the Washington team. ... This shows me if they really belong in that top four, because even though they’re at home, they’re getting a worthy opponent here.”
Here are some more games of interest on the Week 11 college football card:
Baylor at Oklahoma (-15)
CG Technology on Sunday opened Oklahoma -13.5, a number not big enough for bettors’ tastes. The book took bets on Oklahoma at -13.5, -14.5 and -15, Simbal said.
Bettors are fading Baylor more than backing Oklahoma, Simbal believes.
“I think people are more turned off by Baylor than they are pro-Oklahoma. This is more an anti-Baylor bet,” he said.
After winning their first six games of the season, the Bears have dropped two straight, at Texas 35-34 and in embarrassing fashion at home to TCU this past Saturday, 62-22.
It has not taken the betting market long to react.
“Their power rating has lost steam. They’ve lost 6 or 7 points in the power ratings (over the last two weeks),” said Avello, who opened Oklahoma -15. “That trouncing against TCU was really bad. It’s not like the game was even close. They just got waxed. ... (Kyle Hicks) had five touchdowns and (TCU) made them look really, really bad. They scored on a couple of big plays, but 22 points is all they had. I don’t know, maybe their confidence level is way down.”
Conversely, Oklahoma has shaken off a 1-2 start to the season, winning six in a row.
“All of a sudden, this team is scoring in the 50s, 60s a game,” Avello said. “I think Baylor can also do that, but they haven’t as of late. So it looks like Oklahoma in this game can score at will, and Baylor I’m sure will be able to score some, but they could get carried away late. ... For this particular game, they may show up early, but these point spreads are all about when the final bell rings, where are you, where do you stand.” West Virginia at Texas (-2)
The Wynn opened this game a pick ‘em but was bet to Texas -2 by Monday, when the line ranged from 1.5 to 2.5 around Las Vegas.
This is a potential look-ahead spot for the Mountaineers, who have Oklahoma next week in a game with major Big 12 championship implications.
The Longhorns are not in the race for the conference title, but they have won two straight, and while this won’t make people in Austin feel any better, their four losses (at Cal, at Oklahoma State, vs. Oklahoma, at Kansas State) are “justifiable,” according to Avello.
“Charlie Strong is going to do a good job with this team,” Avello said, “but it was going to take him a while to get who he wanted in place, and I think that’s starting to happen now – you’re starting to see it. I think it’s going to get better next year.”
Michigan (-20) at Iowa
Michigan continues to throttle anyone in their path, while Iowa has followed up last year’s undefeated regular season with a dud of a 2016 campaign.
The Wolverines are one of those teams for whom bookmakers can’t make a number high enough – people are going to bet them no matter the spread, it seems. This week, for example, CG Technology opened Michigan -18 and took bets on the favorite at that number, as well as -19.5 and -20, Simbal said.
Some college football coaches are not shy about running up scores, particularly this time of year when polls start to matter. Jim Harbaugh fits into that category, and Avello says he accounts for the coach’s foot-on-gas mentality when he books Michigan games.
“He wants to lay the lumber on everybody. He doesn’t pull back at all. He wants to constantly score,” Avello said of Harbaugh. “He’s one of those coaches who goes for it. ... There’s certain guys that will do that. Ohio State will run it up, but once it gets late in the game, they kind of back off a little bit. They’re not constantly trying to throw the ball. I saw Harbaugh throw the ball and they were up by like 40 points in the fourth quarter, four minutes to go.”
Florida (-12.5) at South Carolina
CG opened Florida -15, while the Wynn hung -13.5 and was bet up early to -14 before underdog money showed up Monday.
Florida was unimpressive as a short favorite at Arkansas last week, losing 31-10. South Carolina won its third game in a row and has some late-season momentum.
The Gators are expected to be without QB Luke Del Rio on Saturday, not good news for their already inept offense.
Avello believes a soft SEC East schedule has a lot to do with Florida’s 6-2 record. After the Gamecocks this week, Florida finishes up against LSU (rescheduled due to Hurricane Matthew) and Florida State.
“They don’t score and haven’t scored, and that’s always their problem,” Avello said of the Gators. “They rely on defense. ... It just looks like they’re going in a different direction right now.”
Auburn (-10) at Georgia
In case we needed more evidence of the wide gap between the two divisions of the SEC, Auburn from the West lays a hefty number as it travels to play Georgia from the East in Athens. The Wynn opened Auburn -9.5 and was up to -10 later Sunday night.
Army at Notre Dame (-12.5)
Avello opened Notre Dame -11 and was bet to -12.5, still sitting a half-point lower than many competing books.
At 3-6, Notre Dame’s season is pretty much toast, yet gamblers are still investing in the Irish. Avello understands the move on this week’s game, as he doesn’t see Notre Dame giving up and says the Black Knights are a good match up for them.
“The coach (Brian Kelly) isn’t throwing in the towel. He’s going to want to continue win games,” Avello said. “Army just doesn’t score points. They’re the kind of team that scores 20 points a game. Notre Dame has no problem scoring.”
A note on futures
Of the five teams with single-digit odds on the Westgate’s college football futures board, the book’s only liability is Ohio State (7/2). The house “does really well” with Alabama (even-money), Michigan (5/1), Washington (6/1) and Clemson (7/1). This may surprise those who read reports that Michigan was the most bet-on team ahead of the season.
Salmons said Michigan was a popular futures play early, “but then they got down to the 7/1 range and people started betting other teams and they kind of forgot about Michigan. It’s funny, Michigan had way more support over the summer and then once the season started, they’ve had no more support.”
Early line moves
Here are games that saw the point spread move two or more points in the favorite’s direction during the first 23 hours of wagering at the Wynn.
Pittsburgh vs. Clemson
Opening line: Clemson -18.5
After 23 hours: Clemson -20.5
Cincinnati vs. Central Florida
Opening line: UCF -10.5
After 23 hours: UCF -12.5
Wake Forest vs. Louisville
Opening line: Louisville -32
After 23 hours: Louisville -34.5
UT-San Antonio vs. Louisiana Tech
Opening line: La Tech -19.5
After 23 hours: La Tech -22.5
West Virginia vs. Texas
Opening line: pick ‘em
After 23 hours: Texas -2
Vanderbilt vs. Missouri
Opening line: Mizzou -1
After 23 hours: Mizzou -3
San Diego State vs. Nevada
Opening line: SDSU -21
After 23 hours: SDSU -23
Here are games that saw the point spread move two or more points in the underdog’s direction during the first 23 hours of wagering at the Wynn.
Bowling Green vs. Akron
Opening line: BGSU +11.5
After 23 hours: BGSU +9
UL-Lafayette vs. Georgia Southern
Opening line: ULL +10.5
After 23 hours: ULL +8.5
By Marcus DiNitto
When there’s a disparity between how a college football team is rated by oddsmakers and how it’s rated by pollsters, most folks in the wagering world give more weight to the former.
Heading into Week 11, Southern Cal is such a team. Since their 1-3 start, with losses to Alabama, at Stanford and at Utah, the Trojans have won five straight, and their resurgence coincides with coach Clay Helton’s decision to start Sam Darnold in place of Max Browne at quarterback. The freshman’s first start was at Utah, when USC had a 27-17 lead in the fourth quarter before two late touchdowns by the Utes gave the home side the win.
Southern Cal, though, failed to crack the top 25 this week in either the AP or the coaches’ poll. On Saturday, the Trojans visit Washington as they try to spoil the Huskies’ undefeated season.
Ed Salmons, manager at the Westgate Las Vegas SuperBook, believes USC is seriously underrated, not by the oddsmakers, but by the media members and coaches who vote in the polls.
“How USC is not ranked, I don’t know how that’s humanly possible,” Salmons said. “USC, since they switched quarterbacks, has been playing as well as Washington, except they lost to Alabama and they lost to Stanford early in the year. And the first game the kid started was when the played at Utah, and that’s a game they should have won. ... Since then, they’re killing everyone. They’ve been destroying teams week in and week out. USC has a real good shot to go out there and beat (Washington).”
There was some variance with the opening betting lines on this Pac-12 showdown. CG Technology hung Washington -7.5, while the Wynn went -9.5.
“Our oddsmakers ranged from 6.5 all the way to 9.5. We had a discussion and settled at 7.5,” said Jason Simbal, vice president of risk at CG Tech.
Simbal said his book drew small bets on both sides of that number Sunday while wiseguys left the game alone. But on Monday, line-influencing money showed up on the favorite, pushing the number to 9.
The Wynn was bet from -9.5 to -10, but then back to -9 on Sunday and to -8 on Monday.
While some college football observers griped that Washington was not in the top four of the playoff selection committee’s first rankings of the season, Avello said we’ll learn more about the Huskies on Saturday.
“(USC is) gonna go in thinking they have a shot,” Avello said. “They lost to this team last year in a really close game. This is the biggest test, for me, for the Washington team. ... This shows me if they really belong in that top four, because even though they’re at home, they’re getting a worthy opponent here.”
Here are some more games of interest on the Week 11 college football card:
Baylor at Oklahoma (-15)
CG Technology on Sunday opened Oklahoma -13.5, a number not big enough for bettors’ tastes. The book took bets on Oklahoma at -13.5, -14.5 and -15, Simbal said.
Bettors are fading Baylor more than backing Oklahoma, Simbal believes.
“I think people are more turned off by Baylor than they are pro-Oklahoma. This is more an anti-Baylor bet,” he said.
After winning their first six games of the season, the Bears have dropped two straight, at Texas 35-34 and in embarrassing fashion at home to TCU this past Saturday, 62-22.
It has not taken the betting market long to react.
“Their power rating has lost steam. They’ve lost 6 or 7 points in the power ratings (over the last two weeks),” said Avello, who opened Oklahoma -15. “That trouncing against TCU was really bad. It’s not like the game was even close. They just got waxed. ... (Kyle Hicks) had five touchdowns and (TCU) made them look really, really bad. They scored on a couple of big plays, but 22 points is all they had. I don’t know, maybe their confidence level is way down.”
Conversely, Oklahoma has shaken off a 1-2 start to the season, winning six in a row.
“All of a sudden, this team is scoring in the 50s, 60s a game,” Avello said. “I think Baylor can also do that, but they haven’t as of late. So it looks like Oklahoma in this game can score at will, and Baylor I’m sure will be able to score some, but they could get carried away late. ... For this particular game, they may show up early, but these point spreads are all about when the final bell rings, where are you, where do you stand.” West Virginia at Texas (-2)
The Wynn opened this game a pick ‘em but was bet to Texas -2 by Monday, when the line ranged from 1.5 to 2.5 around Las Vegas.
This is a potential look-ahead spot for the Mountaineers, who have Oklahoma next week in a game with major Big 12 championship implications.
The Longhorns are not in the race for the conference title, but they have won two straight, and while this won’t make people in Austin feel any better, their four losses (at Cal, at Oklahoma State, vs. Oklahoma, at Kansas State) are “justifiable,” according to Avello.
“Charlie Strong is going to do a good job with this team,” Avello said, “but it was going to take him a while to get who he wanted in place, and I think that’s starting to happen now – you’re starting to see it. I think it’s going to get better next year.”
Michigan (-20) at Iowa
Michigan continues to throttle anyone in their path, while Iowa has followed up last year’s undefeated regular season with a dud of a 2016 campaign.
The Wolverines are one of those teams for whom bookmakers can’t make a number high enough – people are going to bet them no matter the spread, it seems. This week, for example, CG Technology opened Michigan -18 and took bets on the favorite at that number, as well as -19.5 and -20, Simbal said.
Some college football coaches are not shy about running up scores, particularly this time of year when polls start to matter. Jim Harbaugh fits into that category, and Avello says he accounts for the coach’s foot-on-gas mentality when he books Michigan games.
“He wants to lay the lumber on everybody. He doesn’t pull back at all. He wants to constantly score,” Avello said of Harbaugh. “He’s one of those coaches who goes for it. ... There’s certain guys that will do that. Ohio State will run it up, but once it gets late in the game, they kind of back off a little bit. They’re not constantly trying to throw the ball. I saw Harbaugh throw the ball and they were up by like 40 points in the fourth quarter, four minutes to go.”
Florida (-12.5) at South Carolina
CG opened Florida -15, while the Wynn hung -13.5 and was bet up early to -14 before underdog money showed up Monday.
Florida was unimpressive as a short favorite at Arkansas last week, losing 31-10. South Carolina won its third game in a row and has some late-season momentum.
The Gators are expected to be without QB Luke Del Rio on Saturday, not good news for their already inept offense.
Avello believes a soft SEC East schedule has a lot to do with Florida’s 6-2 record. After the Gamecocks this week, Florida finishes up against LSU (rescheduled due to Hurricane Matthew) and Florida State.
“They don’t score and haven’t scored, and that’s always their problem,” Avello said of the Gators. “They rely on defense. ... It just looks like they’re going in a different direction right now.”
Auburn (-10) at Georgia
In case we needed more evidence of the wide gap between the two divisions of the SEC, Auburn from the West lays a hefty number as it travels to play Georgia from the East in Athens. The Wynn opened Auburn -9.5 and was up to -10 later Sunday night.
Army at Notre Dame (-12.5)
Avello opened Notre Dame -11 and was bet to -12.5, still sitting a half-point lower than many competing books.
At 3-6, Notre Dame’s season is pretty much toast, yet gamblers are still investing in the Irish. Avello understands the move on this week’s game, as he doesn’t see Notre Dame giving up and says the Black Knights are a good match up for them.
“The coach (Brian Kelly) isn’t throwing in the towel. He’s going to want to continue win games,” Avello said. “Army just doesn’t score points. They’re the kind of team that scores 20 points a game. Notre Dame has no problem scoring.”
A note on futures
Of the five teams with single-digit odds on the Westgate’s college football futures board, the book’s only liability is Ohio State (7/2). The house “does really well” with Alabama (even-money), Michigan (5/1), Washington (6/1) and Clemson (7/1). This may surprise those who read reports that Michigan was the most bet-on team ahead of the season.
Salmons said Michigan was a popular futures play early, “but then they got down to the 7/1 range and people started betting other teams and they kind of forgot about Michigan. It’s funny, Michigan had way more support over the summer and then once the season started, they’ve had no more support.”
Early line moves
Here are games that saw the point spread move two or more points in the favorite’s direction during the first 23 hours of wagering at the Wynn.
Pittsburgh vs. Clemson
Opening line: Clemson -18.5
After 23 hours: Clemson -20.5
Cincinnati vs. Central Florida
Opening line: UCF -10.5
After 23 hours: UCF -12.5
Wake Forest vs. Louisville
Opening line: Louisville -32
After 23 hours: Louisville -34.5
UT-San Antonio vs. Louisiana Tech
Opening line: La Tech -19.5
After 23 hours: La Tech -22.5
West Virginia vs. Texas
Opening line: pick ‘em
After 23 hours: Texas -2
Vanderbilt vs. Missouri
Opening line: Mizzou -1
After 23 hours: Mizzou -3
San Diego State vs. Nevada
Opening line: SDSU -21
After 23 hours: SDSU -23
Here are games that saw the point spread move two or more points in the underdog’s direction during the first 23 hours of wagering at the Wynn.
Bowling Green vs. Akron
Opening line: BGSU +11.5
After 23 hours: BGSU +9
UL-Lafayette vs. Georgia Southern
Opening line: ULL +10.5
After 23 hours: ULL +8.5