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JimmyJet's posts above nicely sum up most of my own feelings of why I'm pretty much okey-dokey about the effects so far on our nation by the new adminstration of President Barack Obama

Those who don't share our enthusiasm are likely far better served on focusing their energies towards getting a new President in 2012 rather than wasting their spunk griping about this or that aspect of Obama's presence in the White House.

I speak from experience being that for the first couple of years GW Bush was in office, I lost way too much of my life griping about him - time that I learned to more smartly channel into efforts to find a replacement with who I could more respect and whose policies I could support.

And none....I emphasize NONE of my complaints about GW Bush resulted in a single change in how he and his supporters went about their business.

Nor will any of the complainers about Obama inspire any change in what he and his legion of supporters are set out to do during the next 7+ years.

Moral of the Story - Stop Bitchin' and Get To Work creating real and believeable alternatives to what you don't like in your community, whether it be national, state or local.

-Bman PPub post for June 6 (so I'm a day late....)

There is nothing wrong with discourse to show one's displeasure in the current administration. I have learned many things by reading posts here and articles elsewhere who have criticized Presidents in the past and this current administration.

In fact, I feel it is a necessary and time-honored exercise to bring about change. Don't sell yourself short. Your comments regarding George Bush along with comments by other people helped me realize that he didn't always have the country's best interests in mind.

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JimmyJet's posts above nicely sum up most of my own feelings of why I'm pretty much okey-dokey about the effects so far on our nation by the new adminstration of President Barack Obama

Those who don't share our enthusiasm are likely far better served on focusing their energies towards getting a new President in 2012 rather than wasting their spunk griping about this or that aspect of Obama's presence in the White House.

I speak from experience being that for the first couple of years GW Bush was in office, I lost way too much of my life griping about him - time that I learned to more smartly channel into efforts to find a replacement with who I could more respect and whose policies I could support.

And none....I emphasize NONE of my complaints about GW Bush resulted in a single change in how he and his supporters went about their business.

Nor will any of the complainers about Obama inspire any change in what he and his legion of supporters are set out to do during the next 7+ years.

Moral of the Story - Stop Bitchin' and Get To Work creating real and believeable alternatives to what you don't like in your community, whether it be national, state or local.

-Bman PPub post for June 6 (so I'm a day late....)

We've had this conversation before and I beg to differ. Perhaps if you had been a little more vocal prior to 2004 (in addition to a handful of other people), the results may have been different (both of Bush's election were extremely close). The head in the sand approach is a defeatist attitude and ignoring the present may doom you in the future (in particular if we end up experiencing hyperinflation). I hope, as I said before, that people continue to talk ad nausem about this. Ignoring it will surely result in a re-election in 2012 and the time to talk is now. I personally am pleased with the amount of internet talk and what media coverage I see against all this spending, and I think it's starting to pay dividends. Things aren't exactly floating through in Congress anymore and the recent vote on IMF bailout is a great example. A Politician's main concern is to be re-elected and regardless if Obama wants something to pass, no politician is going to jeopardize his future by voting on something that might cause them to lose an election. I find it interesting how you equate complaints with "wasting one's spunk" and walking around with intense anger. I assure you that's probably not the case with many of us (myself included). I still have very nice vacations, go to nice dinners, and enjoy my job. I actually find debating items very therapeutical (especially when you can change someone's thinking...and I have had success with some). The forum is great for sending out a message to multiple viewers and serves its purpose (short of taking out an ad in a newpaper, what other venue could one use to get out information and not incur a cost?). Posts like this gives others a chance to express their viewpoint and as far as I'm concerned, if I even get one reader to say "wow, I had no idea that was the case", I've succeeded. I believe there's quite a bit of misinformation ("spin") put out there that confuses quite a bit of people. You'd be surprised how many people at work had no idea what this Universal Health Care was all about (even though they voted for Obama). It's easy enough to point them in the right direction so they can see how it works in other countries. Some were OK with it, and some were shocked. I didn't bias the info, I simply let them make their own decision (amazing how effective that can be). I only wish when people vote (whether it's for a President or just local issues), they take the time to really understand the issues instead of seeing a snapshot or sound byte from the media, or being memorized just because a politician is an eloquent speaker.
 

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Nice Post Quantum!

Thanks body. I'm glad there is someone else on this side of the debate such as you.

I just don't understand barman here. The only thing I can think is that he is over-reacting to someone criticizing his choice.

I encourage people to bring up other sides to my choices. I voted for Ron Paul. Please, if someone has anything you don't like about him bring it up. I learned a lot from D2bets in our discussion of Sotomayor for Supreme Court Justice and learned a few more things about her that I wouldn't have had he not brought up his points.

But to say someone shouldn't criticize the President because it doesn't do any good??? I just don't understand that.

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I would ask him to elaborate on why he doesn't want anyone to criticize but I believe he already has written why he feels this way.
 

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Thanks body. I'm glad there is someone else on this side of the debate such as you.

I just don't understand barman here. The only thing I can think is that he is over-reacting to someone criticizing his choice.

I encourage people to bring up other sides to my choices. I voted for Ron Paul. Please, if someone has anything you don't like about him bring it up. I learned a lot from D2bets in our discussion of Sotomayor for Supreme Court Justice and learned a few more things about her that I wouldn't have had he not brought up his points.

But to say someone shouldn't criticize the President because it doesn't do any good??? I just don't understand that.

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I would ask him to elaborate on why he doesn't want anyone to criticize but I believe he already has written why he feels this way.

I don't get it at all Quantum. In fact, I'd say the comment borders on absurd. First off, this is a forum. Exchanging viewpoints is what people do on forums. Most forums want to encourage as many hits as possible as it is typically the way they can demand a higher price for ad revenue (but perhaps the Prescription is different). In addition, the success of the Democratic Party in this election had an awful lot to do with the anger directed at Bush over the previous 8 years. If everyone just kept quiet and didn't express their viewpoints, would the result have been as decisive as it was? I'm guessing probably not. I've heard some Republicans even call the election the "anybody but Bush" election (insinuating that McCain was identical to Bush). Sorry, don't get it at all nor does it bother me that someone doesn't want me to talk about since I'm gonna anyway. It's a good feeling.
 

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Obama will lose the 2012 election overwhelmingly and go in the basement with bush , carter and lbj as the worst presidents ever
 

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