There is more to handicapping a game than watching where money moves.
The Atlanta game was a pass because money went in both directions??
Money moves all over the place, and I can point to many games with "smart money" and "sharp line moves" that lose. Often.
I watch ZCode line movements plenty, and there is no significant pattern on who wins or loses based on sharp line moves or sharp money.
For every game you cherry pick that shows a win, I'll find just as many that lose.
As for helping people make a decision, how many know what to do with this??
The Atlanta game was a pass because money went in both directions??
Money moves all over the place, and I can point to many games with "smart money" and "sharp line moves" that lose. Often.
I watch ZCode line movements plenty, and there is no significant pattern on who wins or loses based on sharp line moves or sharp money.
For every game you cherry pick that shows a win, I'll find just as many that lose.
As for helping people make a decision, how many know what to do with this??
anyway...
04:50 PM: Sharp line move detected in favor of Philadelphia RL
PHI ML public: 81%
PHI Spread public: 43%
No major line movement (phi open -115, current -120)
04:56 PM: Sharp line move detected against Washington RL
WAS ML public: 94%
WAS Spread public: 75%
Line movement and public in favor of WAS (open -115, now -130)
03:54 PM: Sharp line move detected against Toronto RL
TOR ML public: 81%
TOR Spread public: 77%
small RLM against TOR, open at -110, now -105
03:26 PM: Sharp line move detected against Boston ML
BOS ML public: 87%
BOS Spread public: 47%
ATL from -120 to -105 (even)
04:50 PM: Sharp line move detected against New York Mets RL
06:37 PM: The smart money is coming on Pittsburgh RL
NYM ML public: 73%
NYM Spread public: 96%
NYM from -115 to -104
small RLM in favor of PIT
04:50 PM: Sharp line move detected in favor of Philadelphia RL
PHI ML public: 81%
PHI Spread public: 43%
No major line movement (phi open -115, current -120)
04:56 PM: Sharp line move detected against Washington RL
WAS ML public: 94%
WAS Spread public: 75%
Line movement and public in favor of WAS (open -115, now -130)
03:54 PM: Sharp line move detected against Toronto RL
TOR ML public: 81%
TOR Spread public: 77%
small RLM against TOR, open at -110, now -105
03:26 PM: Sharp line move detected against Boston ML
BOS ML public: 87%
BOS Spread public: 47%
ATL from -120 to -105 (even)
04:50 PM: Sharp line move detected against New York Mets RL
06:37 PM: The smart money is coming on Pittsburgh RL
NYM ML public: 73%
NYM Spread public: 96%
NYM from -115 to -104
small RLM in favor of PIT
06:11 AM: Sharp line move detected against Milwaukee ML
06:22 AM: The smart money is coming on Baltimore ML
07:19 AM: Sharp line move detected against Milwaukee RL
09:27 AM: The smart money is coming on Baltimore RL
ML public: 50%
MIL Spread public: 74%
MIL open -135, now -124
11:37 AM: The smart money is coming on Cleveland ML
11:37 AM: The smart money is coming on Cleveland RL
CWS ML public: 61%
CWS Spread public: 83%
CWS open -175, now -170
11:55 AM: The smart money is coming on Houston ML
11:55 AM: The smart money is coming on Houston RL
KC ML public: 74%
KC Spread public: 91%
small RLM against KC, line from -140 to -131
All ML:04:52 PM: Sharp line move detected against Texas
05:08 PM: The smart money is coming on Minnesota
05:18 PM: Sharp line move detected against Texas
06:54 PM: Sharp line move detected in favor of Texas
07:05 PM: Sharp line move detected against Texas
Pitching change for TEX 4:25pm
Texas from -145 to +112
Nothing for NYY@STL
line movement and public in favor of STL
STL ML public: 64%
STL Spread public: 82%
stl open -145, now -154
06:22 AM: The smart money is coming on Baltimore ML
07:19 AM: Sharp line move detected against Milwaukee RL
09:27 AM: The smart money is coming on Baltimore RL
ML public: 50%
MIL Spread public: 74%
MIL open -135, now -124
11:37 AM: The smart money is coming on Cleveland ML
11:37 AM: The smart money is coming on Cleveland RL
CWS ML public: 61%
CWS Spread public: 83%
CWS open -175, now -170
11:55 AM: The smart money is coming on Houston ML
11:55 AM: The smart money is coming on Houston RL
KC ML public: 74%
KC Spread public: 91%
small RLM against KC, line from -140 to -131
All ML:04:52 PM: Sharp line move detected against Texas
05:08 PM: The smart money is coming on Minnesota
05:18 PM: Sharp line move detected against Texas
06:54 PM: Sharp line move detected in favor of Texas
07:05 PM: Sharp line move detected against Texas
Pitching change for TEX 4:25pm
Texas from -145 to +112
Nothing for NYY@STL
line movement and public in favor of STL
STL ML public: 64%
STL Spread public: 82%
stl open -145, now -154
09:38 AM: Sharp line move detected in favor of Oakland
07:27 PM: Sharp line move detected against Oakland
09:03 AM: Sharp line move detected in favor of Oakland RL
09:33 AM: Sharp line move detected in favor of Oakland RL
07:27 PM: Sharp line move detected against Oakland RL
DET ML public: 75%
DET Spread public: 65%
Public on dog
Line movement in favor of OAK, open -125, now -130
12:32 AM: The smart money is coming on Cincinnati
01:16 AM: Sharp line move detected in favor of Los Angeles Dodgers
11:58 AM: Sharp line move detected in favor of Los Angeles Dodgers
LAD ML public: 63%
LAD Spread public: 72%
LAD from -160 to -180
09:51 AM: The smart money is coming on Seattle
07:48 AM: Sharp line move detected against Los Angeles Angels RL
09:51 AM: The smart money is coming on Seattle RL
11:28 AM: Sharp line move detected against Los Angeles Angels RL
LAA ML public: 84%
LAA Spread public: 50%
Small RLM against LAA from -154 to -131
08:24 AM: Sharp line move detected against San Francisco
11:16 AM: Sharp line move detected against San Francisco
04:26 PM: The smart money is coming on Chicago Cubs
11:10 AM: Sharp line move detected against San Francisco RL
11:19 AM: The smart money is coming on Chicago Cubs RL
08:42 PM: Sharp line move detected in favor of San Francisco RL
SF ML public: 72%
SF Spread public: 94%
SF From -190 to -174
07:27 PM: Sharp line move detected against Oakland
09:03 AM: Sharp line move detected in favor of Oakland RL
09:33 AM: Sharp line move detected in favor of Oakland RL
07:27 PM: Sharp line move detected against Oakland RL
DET ML public: 75%
DET Spread public: 65%
Public on dog
Line movement in favor of OAK, open -125, now -130
12:32 AM: The smart money is coming on Cincinnati
01:16 AM: Sharp line move detected in favor of Los Angeles Dodgers
11:58 AM: Sharp line move detected in favor of Los Angeles Dodgers
LAD ML public: 63%
LAD Spread public: 72%
LAD from -160 to -180
09:51 AM: The smart money is coming on Seattle
07:48 AM: Sharp line move detected against Los Angeles Angels RL
09:51 AM: The smart money is coming on Seattle RL
11:28 AM: Sharp line move detected against Los Angeles Angels RL
LAA ML public: 84%
LAA Spread public: 50%
Small RLM against LAA from -154 to -131
08:24 AM: Sharp line move detected against San Francisco
11:16 AM: Sharp line move detected against San Francisco
04:26 PM: The smart money is coming on Chicago Cubs
11:10 AM: Sharp line move detected against San Francisco RL
11:19 AM: The smart money is coming on Chicago Cubs RL
08:42 PM: Sharp line move detected in favor of San Francisco RL
SF ML public: 72%
SF Spread public: 94%
SF From -190 to -174
Personally - I use RLM as a tool - I also handicap the game but only look at a couple of key indicators per sport, when the Handicapping says one thing but the Public and Line movement are saying something else you got make a move on it.
Yesterday Houston was a classic example They had the better current Performance and Better Pitching but the Public was on the Royals and the line dropped, those are no brainers....
On top of that when I see a trend a developing I start playing the trend that is How I uncovered RLM on Totals they have cooled off so I have stopped play/Posting them.
A new trend is emerging though when a team opens a dog +1.5 and then becomes the Fav -1.5 they are now 13-11/6-9...and they are on a 7-3/2-0 run.... today the Phillies fit that profile - I just talked my self into abet PHiladelphia -106 1* - LOL
GL guys enjoy the games
Share info - don't bicker (everyone has their own style) - Win Money
Yesterday Houston was a classic example They had the better current Performance and Better Pitching but the Public was on the Royals and the line dropped, those are no brainers....
On top of that when I see a trend a developing I start playing the trend that is How I uncovered RLM on Totals they have cooled off so I have stopped play/Posting them.
A new trend is emerging though when a team opens a dog +1.5 and then becomes the Fav -1.5 they are now 13-11/6-9...and they are on a 7-3/2-0 run.... today the Phillies fit that profile - I just talked my self into abet PHiladelphia -106 1* - LOL
GL guys enjoy the games
Share info - don't bicker (everyone has their own style) - Win Money
Houston looking like RLM play; public on KC and line dropping from -170 to -143
I still like Duffy better then Cosart, maybe Houston RL is the play here
11:08 AM: Sharp line move detected against Kansas City
11:09 AM: The smart money is coming on Houston
08:16 AM: Sharp line move detected against Kansas City RL
09:07 AM: Sharp line move detected against Kansas City RL
11:09 AM: The smart money is coming on Houston RL
KC ML public: 77%
I still like Duffy better then Cosart, maybe Houston RL is the play here
11:08 AM: Sharp line move detected against Kansas City
11:09 AM: The smart money is coming on Houston
08:16 AM: Sharp line move detected against Kansas City RL
09:07 AM: Sharp line move detected against Kansas City RL
11:09 AM: The smart money is coming on Houston RL
KC ML public: 77%
Powerz,
This was my main point.
It would be more helpful that in addition to posting line moves, those people familiar with it could explain the significance.
It helps that if BEFORE the game, people would analyze line moves and explain what they see and how they intend to use it, that would be of use.
Telling us AFTER the game what they did doesn't serve a purpose.
I'm all for sharing information, and I understand everyone has their own style. Talking about the Philadelphia is a good example of seeing something, and sharing it in a timely manner so that others can see your point AND perhaps chose to wager on it.
so far RLM and anti public play building up in favor of the Cubs
09:12 AM: Sharp line move detected against San Francisco
11:38 AM: Sharp line move detected against San Francisco
11:50 AM: The smart money is coming on Chicago Cubs
SF ML public: 87%
SF Spread public: 95%
RLM against SF, line drop from -170 to -150
interesting stat: 100$ bettors are down -$2108 taking Jackson and down -$801 taking Lincecum (SF) since 2012 season
09:12 AM: Sharp line move detected against San Francisco
11:38 AM: Sharp line move detected against San Francisco
11:50 AM: The smart money is coming on Chicago Cubs
SF ML public: 87%
SF Spread public: 95%
RLM against SF, line drop from -170 to -150
interesting stat: 100$ bettors are down -$2108 taking Jackson and down -$801 taking Lincecum (SF) since 2012 season
I'm not asking for every wager you make. People create threads if they are interested in that.
I'm asking for specific games and reasons for the play. I don't want my hand held, I would rather see the reasoning behind a play so that I and perhaps others can find them too.
The Houston game looked like a good example.
I do not play many +1.5 lines. I have a hard time wrapping my head around taking a team to possibly lose and paying juice.
Do you guys find these +1.5 games profitable?? I haven't tracked them enough to know.
