Mods, this is a site about helping people win money, not bashing teams. People take their teams and players very very seriously and I don't see the reason why C-Gold feels the need to continuously beat a dead horse. I do not condone redskins comment but he doesn't make it if C-Gold make a weekly thread bashing the team for which he clearly is passionate. Why don't you take this to some Giants or Cowboys forum or something instead bashing the Skins and their starting quarterback here and pissing people off. Every Campbell comment includes how dumb he is and how he's another dumb mobile QB like Vick and Leftwich, which is completely idiotic and offbase. Since the season is now completely over for the skins about no more threads need to be made about how bad they are and how bad their starting QB is. Give it a freakin rest.
I was bashing the Redskins after another crappy effort. I attacked no poster on this board and I am sorry you are a Redskins fan. I often see people posting angry threads after some team/coach/qb screws them over, I just choose to do so without actually losing money on the team. The redskins shit the bed again today, and I have no problem pointing that out. If your team wins, do you ever get happy and post? A team that I strongly dislike lost today, and I am happy.
The Redskins are my home team and they stink like a rotten fish from the head on down. I can't stand the team and the goober redskins fans here in town. People say they hate teams, but I really HATE the Redskins.
Oh, and Jason Campbell IS dumb. Zorn coulda woulda shoulda started Colt today and given him some live game experience. This game did nothing for Jason Leftwhich.
Yo C, you should come down to DC and go laugh at every skins fan with me. Freaken jokers. They pick up JT and they think they got the pass rusher of the century and will win it all. When they win, its automatic superbowl. When they lose, they want to cut everyone. Where is the consistency? Stick with 1 freaken coach.
Zorn is a good guy. Give him more than a season to succeed. Cant you see this is the reason why, skins cant win anything? You guys change personel like you change a baby's diapers. But knowing the history of skins, they'll fire Zorn, release Campbell (although he had to learn new playbook every season) and pick up OLD HAS BEEN. They'll win their first 2 games and skins fan will cry Superbowl like every year.
Cower will not take you to the bowl. Marty will not take you to the bowl. No coach is gonna take this team to the bowl with Danny dumbarse at the helm calling the shots. Learn from the Phins. Hire a "bill parcell" and let him deal with personel and tell Danny boy to sit back, stfu, and enjoy his team. So happy, they lost their final game. So happy, they're not going to the PO's.
Zorn is a good guy. Give him more than a season to succeed. Cant you see this is the reason why, skins cant win anything? You guys change personel like you change a baby's diapers. But knowing the history of skins, they'll fire Zorn, release Campbell (although he had to learn new playbook every season) and pick up OLD HAS BEEN. They'll win their first 2 games and skins fan will cry Superbowl like every year.
Cower will not take you to the bowl. Marty will not take you to the bowl. No coach is gonna take this team to the bowl with Danny dumbarse at the helm calling the shots. Learn from the Phins. Hire a "bill parcell" and let him deal with personel and tell Danny boy to sit back, stfu, and enjoy his team. So happy, they lost their final game. So happy, they're not going to the PO's.
Guys,
I follow the Skins closely and I would say their impotent offense has more to do with Zorn than Campbell. He's asking Campbell to implement his offensive system and Jason can't. So he has to change the system or get rid of Jason. What I don't understand is why Zorn can't see this after staying with this offense that produced less points than that of Detroit. That's right Detroit has scored more points than the Skins. So it's slant right, Portis up the middle, and slant left over & over again. Very few screens and long passes and the opponent's defense just sits and waits on an predictable offense. He should have realized this in week 9 when they played PIT on monday night. The Steelers shut down Portis and I thought for sure that Zorn would abandon his west coast offense in the second half. So what does he do--stays the course and scores zero points in the second half. And he has stayed the course the rest of the season. How can Zorn not see this? Sorry guys but it's much more Zorn than it is Campbell.
I follow the Skins closely and I would say their impotent offense has more to do with Zorn than Campbell. He's asking Campbell to implement his offensive system and Jason can't. So he has to change the system or get rid of Jason. What I don't understand is why Zorn can't see this after staying with this offense that produced less points than that of Detroit. That's right Detroit has scored more points than the Skins. So it's slant right, Portis up the middle, and slant left over & over again. Very few screens and long passes and the opponent's defense just sits and waits on an predictable offense. He should have realized this in week 9 when they played PIT on monday night. The Steelers shut down Portis and I thought for sure that Zorn would abandon his west coast offense in the second half. So what does he do--stays the course and scores zero points in the second half. And he has stayed the course the rest of the season. How can Zorn not see this? Sorry guys but it's much more Zorn than it is Campbell.
Campell can only do what he can do. He has clear limitations with his slow mental abilities, his holding onto the ball forever, and his long release.
What is zorn supposed to do, throw him into a pass happy offense to get killed? The only reason he runs that run run screen pass offense is because if he did run an offense with actual throws, Jason Campbell would fail immediatly and he'd have damaged goods on his hand.
The Redskins can't score points, but having one of the worst starting QB's in the league doesn't help zorn. Campbell having more pro bowlers around him than any NFC quaterback and having one of the 5 worst offenses and scoring less than Detroit is a joke. Detroit had a revolving door at QB, and they sill scored more than the joke skins and their pro bowlers.
Don't give me this crap that campbell had to learn offenses. The NFL is about adapting and the only reason it is a problem is because Campbell hasn't learned offense, and he hasn't learned it all because he is stupid, lazy, and cries to the media instead of taking personal responsibility.
I am against blowing up and starting all over, but Jason Campbell is a joke.
What is zorn supposed to do, throw him into a pass happy offense to get killed? The only reason he runs that run run screen pass offense is because if he did run an offense with actual throws, Jason Campbell would fail immediatly and he'd have damaged goods on his hand.
The Redskins can't score points, but having one of the worst starting QB's in the league doesn't help zorn. Campbell having more pro bowlers around him than any NFC quaterback and having one of the 5 worst offenses and scoring less than Detroit is a joke. Detroit had a revolving door at QB, and they sill scored more than the joke skins and their pro bowlers.
Don't give me this crap that campbell had to learn offenses. The NFL is about adapting and the only reason it is a problem is because Campbell hasn't learned offense, and he hasn't learned it all because he is stupid, lazy, and cries to the media instead of taking personal responsibility.
I am against blowing up and starting all over, but Jason Campbell is a joke.
I understand your frustation C-Gold but I feel it is misplaced. You could be 100% right about Campbell. But if you and I as armchair QBs can see it, you have to ask yourself, "why can't the Head Coach see it." He should have seen it at least by week 12 when they still had a chance. And brought in Todd Collins--don't need a revolving QB situation. Collins took over last year in Week 14 and won the last 4 games.
I see it this way--if you paid a contracting supervisor to fix a major problem on your house and he sent over workers who did inferior work. Who would you be complaining to to get the problem fixed?
I see it this way--if you paid a contracting supervisor to fix a major problem on your house and he sent over workers who did inferior work. Who would you be complaining to to get the problem fixed?
Cuse-
The NFL has 32 teams
The NFL does NOT have 32 starting quarterbacks.
Jason Campbell is a backup QB that the Redskins traded for to jump up and draft in round 1. Campbell was drafted specifically for Joe Gibbs ( who oddly enough wanted a veteran QB anyway Mark Brunell). Gibbs came out of retirement to try and run a 2007 NFL team in a 1987 NFL business model.
The NFL has changed. The rules have changed, and the size/speed of the players has changed. A defensive back can't mugg a WR 15 yards downfield anymore, and the passing game has flurished.
Dan Marino played much of his career after Gibbs retired and led the league in Passing. Brett Favre played his entire career post gibbs and broke his records. Peyton Manning played in this ere and should break every record, and Tom Brady shattered the records in an even more passing NFL last year. Drew Brees came close to breaking a single season passing record this year.
This is the era of passing quarterbacks, not big strong guys that hand the ball off and "hope" their defense wins game.
Why did Zorn stick with a guy that isn't the answer at QB?
1. It is very possible that he got orders from his great jewish god from above. Snyder has been known to meddle.
2. Coaches give their young " QB of the future" the benefit of doubt. Do you really want to bench your QB and destroy his confidence? Jason Campbell was very flustered when reading the papers, listening to the radio this season as he complained to the reporters. Rather than letting his play back it up, he made excuses and cried.
I mean look at how Gary Kubiak said he was committed to another over drafted dumb mobile QB that the Texans wanted to succeed. Kubiak tried to teach him, he tried to make it work, but even he had to give up at some point on David Carr. David Carr is nothing more than an NFL backup as well. There are NOT 32 starting QB's in the NFL, and Carr, Campbell, Leftwhich, Losman, Jemarcus are not them etc.
Gary Kubiak eventually did go after his guy ( Matt Schabb), and Zorn will probably eventually play Colt Brennan, but right now he had to toat the company line. " Ohhh Jason is our guy, Jason is going to be a real good player blah blah blah". If you and I can see that isn't the case, I am sure Zorn the " QB guru can see it as well". He just isn't in the position to be honest.
The NFL has 32 teams
The NFL does NOT have 32 starting quarterbacks.
Jason Campbell is a backup QB that the Redskins traded for to jump up and draft in round 1. Campbell was drafted specifically for Joe Gibbs ( who oddly enough wanted a veteran QB anyway Mark Brunell). Gibbs came out of retirement to try and run a 2007 NFL team in a 1987 NFL business model.
The NFL has changed. The rules have changed, and the size/speed of the players has changed. A defensive back can't mugg a WR 15 yards downfield anymore, and the passing game has flurished.
Dan Marino played much of his career after Gibbs retired and led the league in Passing. Brett Favre played his entire career post gibbs and broke his records. Peyton Manning played in this ere and should break every record, and Tom Brady shattered the records in an even more passing NFL last year. Drew Brees came close to breaking a single season passing record this year.
This is the era of passing quarterbacks, not big strong guys that hand the ball off and "hope" their defense wins game.
Why did Zorn stick with a guy that isn't the answer at QB?
1. It is very possible that he got orders from his great jewish god from above. Snyder has been known to meddle.
2. Coaches give their young " QB of the future" the benefit of doubt. Do you really want to bench your QB and destroy his confidence? Jason Campbell was very flustered when reading the papers, listening to the radio this season as he complained to the reporters. Rather than letting his play back it up, he made excuses and cried.
I mean look at how Gary Kubiak said he was committed to another over drafted dumb mobile QB that the Texans wanted to succeed. Kubiak tried to teach him, he tried to make it work, but even he had to give up at some point on David Carr. David Carr is nothing more than an NFL backup as well. There are NOT 32 starting QB's in the NFL, and Carr, Campbell, Leftwhich, Losman, Jemarcus are not them etc.
Gary Kubiak eventually did go after his guy ( Matt Schabb), and Zorn will probably eventually play Colt Brennan, but right now he had to toat the company line. " Ohhh Jason is our guy, Jason is going to be a real good player blah blah blah". If you and I can see that isn't the case, I am sure Zorn the " QB guru can see it as well". He just isn't in the position to be honest.
Nobody said it was important. It was an adjective used to describe Jim Zorn's owner.
An Adjective is a word used to describe a noun. Just like somebody might say that Rob Ryan is that wild haired Defensive coordinator.
Is it important that he has long wild hair like the old man and the sea? Is there a point? No, it was just a word used to describe him. It wasn't important.
Dan Snyder is jewish, Nobody insulted Snyder or anything Hebrew so what is YOUR point?
An Adjective is a word used to describe a noun. Just like somebody might say that Rob Ryan is that wild haired Defensive coordinator.
Is it important that he has long wild hair like the old man and the sea? Is there a point? No, it was just a word used to describe him. It wasn't important.
Dan Snyder is jewish, Nobody insulted Snyder or anything Hebrew so what is YOUR point?
Jesus Christ was Jewish and he is the " god" or a "prophet" to the three major religions of the West and Middle East.
Somebody from up above giving orders = a god
Danny Snyder = Jewish
Nobody is trying to make any "important" or "profound" statements. If you are trying to start a fight, you will have to look elsewhere, nobody was trying to insult anybody.
Using a minority or religious term when it is unimportant is not an insult. So saying that Barrack Obama will be our first black president is an insult because him being black doesn't matter? Lovie Smith is a successful black head coach... how is that insulting?
I am done with this. If you want to talk about the very Craptastic Redskins then bring it on.
Somebody from up above giving orders = a god
Danny Snyder = Jewish
Nobody is trying to make any "important" or "profound" statements. If you are trying to start a fight, you will have to look elsewhere, nobody was trying to insult anybody.
Using a minority or religious term when it is unimportant is not an insult. So saying that Barrack Obama will be our first black president is an insult because him being black doesn't matter? Lovie Smith is a successful black head coach... how is that insulting?
I am done with this. If you want to talk about the very Craptastic Redskins then bring it on.
