Many times before I have read your posts and have disagreed with your remarks (I am sure you remember some instances....lol). Our disagreements have centered around philosophy (to each his own). Anyway, I figured this would be the appropriate time to "mend the fence"
I am posting only to say that you are right on with this one by so much that you are wasting your time and energy posting. Let these fellows bet on whatever the hell they want, just ignore them.
Anyone that says stupid BJ players always stand on 15-16 needs a BJ basic strategy book, not this forum. For starters (unless you are a counter), your cards play based on the dealer up card. I know, I know....95% of everyone who read this knew that anyway...But unbelievably it obviously must be said.
I am posting only to say that you are right on with this one by so much that you are wasting your time and energy posting. Let these fellows bet on whatever the hell they want, just ignore them.
Anyone that says stupid BJ players always stand on 15-16 needs a BJ basic strategy book, not this forum. For starters (unless you are a counter), your cards play based on the dealer up card. I know, I know....95% of everyone who read this knew that anyway...But unbelievably it obviously must be said.
Pancho,
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I have monitored the NBA lines at macau and they don't move for a good hour or 2 after Billy and his crew have whacked the games.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Is that not absolutely fantastic! Should you not get going here yourself? They pay, one can play big and they are out of line. At least this is exactly what I am looking for! Many thanks for the tip!
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I am not saying Macau does not pay, but don't tell me a book like CRIS or WWTS is Cowboy in its bookmaking style. These guys know how to book, period.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I got to be honest I have not tried all bookies on the Caribbean. Mainly those who do have a bad line and they have all created me headaches. Only recently on this forum I did read for the first time about a European bookmaker that is having difficulties paying, before that every single one of them comes from the Caribbean (even American continent). A bit out of frustration I refer to them now as cowboys. Braveheart once wrote about it nicely and very deserved became Poster of the week:
http://therxforum.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=100090022&f=988094022&m=3953004044
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I have monitored the NBA lines at macau and they don't move for a good hour or 2 after Billy and his crew have whacked the games.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Is that not absolutely fantastic! Should you not get going here yourself? They pay, one can play big and they are out of line. At least this is exactly what I am looking for! Many thanks for the tip!
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I am not saying Macau does not pay, but don't tell me a book like CRIS or WWTS is Cowboy in its bookmaking style. These guys know how to book, period.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I got to be honest I have not tried all bookies on the Caribbean. Mainly those who do have a bad line and they have all created me headaches. Only recently on this forum I did read for the first time about a European bookmaker that is having difficulties paying, before that every single one of them comes from the Caribbean (even American continent). A bit out of frustration I refer to them now as cowboys. Braveheart once wrote about it nicely and very deserved became Poster of the week:
http://therxforum.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=100090022&f=988094022&m=3953004044
Stampede -
You obviously don't understand the description of stupid, then - one who does NOT pay attention to the dealer's upcard. Or else you are one of these people.
Unbelievable how inane some of the people in here are.
Pancho, please explain to me how you think I am embarassing myself? Or is this your lame attempt to cover up your silly reasoning?
You obviously don't understand the description of stupid, then - one who does NOT pay attention to the dealer's upcard. Or else you are one of these people.
Unbelievable how inane some of the people in here are.
Pancho, please explain to me how you think I am embarassing myself? Or is this your lame attempt to cover up your silly reasoning?
if so were the claims true?
Which claims?
I still have an account with Macauslot and I have almost no complains, but I do have ONE:
The maximum size one may put on in one-go on the Division One has dropped to HK$20k (about US$2500), which is unacceptable low for us. They have become like Pinnacle. One may continue to bet on the same team, but the price will have moved. Fortunately there are many locals in Macau that still take big bets and they in general even offer Macau's prices +0.025, though the guy that is handling all our action is telling me now that it is getting tougher. In general we split the action all over Asia, though our favourite place remains Indosoccer. Bad customer service on their website and protected by the Indonesian army, so in case of a dispute not much hope, BUT over the phone they have taken multiple figure sized bets without hesitation and payments were always in-time. Those that already have an account with Pinnacle and do not complain about US$500 maxima do not need to open an account with Indosoccer, as Pinnacle copies their lines.
Have you ever seen the different type of odds offered by the Taiwanese in NBA and baseball?
Only on NBA. They have quotes excluding over-time.
Do you know of any websites where i can see those lines?
No, I would love to know myself.
I now need to phone some guy, ask him for the lines and can only bet up till 3AM (GMT+8), which is too early.
Which claims?
I still have an account with Macauslot and I have almost no complains, but I do have ONE:
The maximum size one may put on in one-go on the Division One has dropped to HK$20k (about US$2500), which is unacceptable low for us. They have become like Pinnacle. One may continue to bet on the same team, but the price will have moved. Fortunately there are many locals in Macau that still take big bets and they in general even offer Macau's prices +0.025, though the guy that is handling all our action is telling me now that it is getting tougher. In general we split the action all over Asia, though our favourite place remains Indosoccer. Bad customer service on their website and protected by the Indonesian army, so in case of a dispute not much hope, BUT over the phone they have taken multiple figure sized bets without hesitation and payments were always in-time. Those that already have an account with Pinnacle and do not complain about US$500 maxima do not need to open an account with Indosoccer, as Pinnacle copies their lines.
Have you ever seen the different type of odds offered by the Taiwanese in NBA and baseball?
Only on NBA. They have quotes excluding over-time.
Do you know of any websites where i can see those lines?
No, I would love to know myself.
I now need to phone some guy, ask him for the lines and can only bet up till 3AM (GMT+8), which is too early.
Pancho Sanza made that claim.
This is totally untrue.
As I mentioned the big NBA bets are taken at the same time, as when the European football matches are being played, in general a few hours before the NBA games start. Up till that time line movements are being determined by the Asian market. Interesting question is: Who causes those line movements?
I did mention once in another post that world wide wagering on the European football is likely to be 100x bigger in size than on American sports.
Amounts that can easily be wagered in one-go:
European football US$350k
NBA in Asia US$35k
Pinnacle US$3.5k
Well NBA betting itself in Asia seems to make this '100x' figure slightly less likely, but do not be mislead, there are many more US$350k gamblers on the European football than US$35k gamblers on the NBA and NBA bets are only taken up till a few hours before the games start.
On the European football the big line movements in Asia are completely being determined by big European gamblers themselves that totally ignore the European books and betting exchanges. And they will have never heard of the fact that it is even possible to bet on European football in the Caribbean.
I know this Billy Walters is being seen as one of the kings on American sports, but even if he bets here in Asia, then still he cannot possibly be as big as some of the big and successful guys on the European football.
This is totally untrue.
As I mentioned the big NBA bets are taken at the same time, as when the European football matches are being played, in general a few hours before the NBA games start. Up till that time line movements are being determined by the Asian market. Interesting question is: Who causes those line movements?
I did mention once in another post that world wide wagering on the European football is likely to be 100x bigger in size than on American sports.
Amounts that can easily be wagered in one-go:
European football US$350k
NBA in Asia US$35k
Pinnacle US$3.5k
Well NBA betting itself in Asia seems to make this '100x' figure slightly less likely, but do not be mislead, there are many more US$350k gamblers on the European football than US$35k gamblers on the NBA and NBA bets are only taken up till a few hours before the games start.
On the European football the big line movements in Asia are completely being determined by big European gamblers themselves that totally ignore the European books and betting exchanges. And they will have never heard of the fact that it is even possible to bet on European football in the Caribbean.
I know this Billy Walters is being seen as one of the kings on American sports, but even if he bets here in Asia, then still he cannot possibly be as big as some of the big and successful guys on the European football.
I can give you whatever information I think is correct, but they have been changing these limits recently, so best to contact Macauslot yourself. There are many books on Mainland China that offer Macauslot's prices + .025 extra and take much higher limits. It goes without saying that I bet there.
