Rules are rules, that's fine, but we all know this exact same play could happen in another game & the refs will see it the other way.......I for one was debating whether it was a catch, but there's more to it. Its what the refs want to change or not change.
If they don't over turn the catch, are we talking about this rule?
Refs are as crooked as can be.......that catch would have set Dallas up for a score & taken the game over the total & given Dallas the lead for the moment.......
Full speed, it's clear he never had complete control throughout the entire process of the catch. In slo mo you can kind of make an argument.
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You guys make good points, but it all comes fown to what the refs want to call.......ive see this kind of play a lot be called both ways, a catch & an inconplete catch.
AK....I think he gains control of the ball at the 4 and loses it when he tries to reach for the goal line. I am not arguing about the call, I just think if he extends it 1 more foot it's called a TD. Seen that play many times. I do agree karma is a crazy thing.
Junk47.....nobody is whining. I brought the topic up mainly for discussion if he would have broke the plane they would have deemed he had possession and the ground caused the fumble. I don't think it made a difference ATS.....but I expect nothing more from you.
Junk47.....nobody is whining. I brought the topic up mainly for discussion if he would have broke the plane they would have deemed he had possession and the ground caused the fumble. I don't think it made a difference ATS.....but I expect nothing more from you.
this, if it hit the ground (and moved) it's incomplete
Yeah what ever happened to it has to be CONCLUSIVE and DEFINITE to overturn. It sure looked to me, as a Raiders fan (unbiased and didn't bet this game) sure looked to me he took 2+ steps first of all, and secondly his one hand was underneath the ball the entire time, even when the ball did move, his hand was always underneath it. How can the referee be 100% sure that his hand wasn't ? It was very clear on the replay his hand was under the ball, even though the ball did shift around.
Sucks for Dallas, but they shouldnt have even been here if the refs didn't do it for them last week.
plausible, if what you say is true, then it was a catch
my friends were making that argument, I just didn't think it would stand
Thought about that an hour after the game.....I was watching highlights & thinking, why would the coach call a fade route 25 yards down field on 4th & short.......
A nice pass in the middle for a 1st down, or a boot leg (watch Flacco do it all the time with success)
grunching here.....
but i think he'd already completed the catch of the ball when he hit the ground. and esp. if it's determined he's stretching out for end zone. no one would try to simulatenously sp? catch the ball and lunge for end zone.
not a dez fan at all, but the truth is the truth....
but i think he'd already completed the catch of the ball when he hit the ground. and esp. if it's determined he's stretching out for end zone. no one would try to simulatenously sp? catch the ball and lunge for end zone.
not a dez fan at all, but the truth is the truth....
After reviewing the video I see the same Bryant I've seen many times. Last year, Romo hits Dez in the end zone, 50 yard pass, not time left. Dez gets one foot down. Then before he gets his second foot down, he puts his f*****g hand down beyond the endzon to catch himself. Review...no catch. No playoffs.
This video shows him putting his had down instead of using both hands to demonstrate control of the ball.
Leaves it up to the refs. Review..no catch. No NFC championship game. He always protects himself. Hope his hand is ok so he can enjoy the off-season.
This video shows him putting his had down instead of using both hands to demonstrate control of the ball.
Leaves it up to the refs. Review..no catch. No NFC championship game. He always protects himself. Hope his hand is ok so he can enjoy the off-season.
Heard on a radio station that the NFL will be looking to change the rule if a catch in the off season......it will basically consist of catching the ball with 2 feet down, no more making a stupid football move & taking 10 steps or what ever joke they equate a football move is, because they're always twisting the rule around to benefit the outcome of the game to their advantage.
Dez was still going to the ground, outstretched arm and all. The rule makes sense to me... that the receiver must come down with the ball and maintain possession after hitting the ground. Neither Dez nor Megatron did that.
Not many of you are considering plays where a receiver has 2 hands on the ball with 2 feet down, gets drilled immediately, and the ball pops out. Is that a catch? or a fumble? What about when a receiver has 2 hands on the ball and on the way down to the ground, the defender pulls it loose?
I think the NFL may change the wording of the rule, but neither of those will be catches. Maintaining control after hitting the ground is a crucial component for the play to be ruled a catch.
Not many of you are considering plays where a receiver has 2 hands on the ball with 2 feet down, gets drilled immediately, and the ball pops out. Is that a catch? or a fumble? What about when a receiver has 2 hands on the ball and on the way down to the ground, the defender pulls it loose?
I think the NFL may change the wording of the rule, but neither of those will be catches. Maintaining control after hitting the ground is a crucial component for the play to be ruled a catch.
Dez made a football move by taking steps after catching the ball & then lunging......whether the refs & others see it another way & are twisting the rules of how many steps, etc...need to be is absurd.
We as humans will always disagree......that's our human nature. What baffles me is that the public is brainwashed into thinking whatever the ref says goes.
Commentators on TV will always back the refs decision if they care at all about their jobs.
None the less, Dallas covered the spread, but the refs seem to be on the wring side of this BS every week......they screwed the Lions 2 weeks ago. They keep screwing the fans.
