Putin getting Scared! Calls Obama to discuss Diplomatic Solutions!!

[neverbend]

So, we are to blame Obama for Putin's aggression? We are to blame Obama for Putin breaking international law and placing military in a sovereign country without their approval? ' if obama did this and that putin would never have invaded!! ' ........UNBELIEVABLE. Can't make that shit up.


let's see. So he's got his port and now picks up the phone? needs USA's help to get a more 'appropriate' govt in place? 'Obama, thanks for taking my call. let's get a 'sane' govt in place, we can work together. I gots some needs tho..........firstly, please stop with these sanctions. My friends are getting upset. Our ruble has gotten smashed, our growth rate projected at a sickly 0.3 % (this with oil at $100/barrel) , and my people are sending their monies abroad, capital pouring out. This ain't right. ......... You can trust me,.... nigga,u there? '





Curious can Putin clarify his position once and for all - Russia's not interested in invading Ukraine ( his words..) but wants to protect the rights of 'Russian speakers' that live in a foreign sovereign country? Now, how are you going to protect those rights unless you invade ? which he successfully did. He got his port. Sounds like now he's looking for the status quo and hoping the planet doesn't cripple his already weak economy



In the end Russia is, in the big picture, irrelevant- they are an economic weakling (assuming of course deltoid-void putin doesn't go cookoo and starts pressing buttons. ...) If USA has failed (and I believe she HAS) its in her creation of China. China's population dwarfs USA's, they will within the next 20yrs (assuming current growth rates) surpass USA in GDP-they WILL BE the planet's economic numero uno. LESS THAN TWENTY FUCKING YEARS. They are building their military, buying up gold and aggressively pursuing energy independence (God help us if they win that battle). It's kinda, in a sick way, funny to watch Putin flex his muslces all the while he shares a FAT BORDER with a behemoth that in due time will have the military to crush him, they already have the numbers (people, monies). You SURE they're an ally, Putin?

I'm with Ron Paul on this one:
'Recently a democratically-elected government was overthrown by violent protesters,” he wrote. “That is the opposite of democracy, where governments are changed by free and fair elections. What is shocking is that the US government and its NGOs were on the side of the protesters! “Washington does not want to talk about its own actions that led to the coup, instead focusing on attacking the Russian reaction to US-instigated unrest next door to them.”
On the topic of Crimea, Paul has stated multiple times that Russia’s annexation of the peninsula is not a situation that requires the involvement of the United States. In his column, he reiterated that Crimeans voted to join Russia, and earlier this month told Politico, “self-determination is a centerpiece of international law.”

 

[russ1945]

I'm with Ron Paul on this one:
'Recently a democratically-elected government was overthrown by violent protesters,” he wrote. “That is the opposite of democracy, where governments are changed by free and fair elections. What is shocking is that the US government and its NGOs were on the side of the protesters! “Washington does not want to talk about its own actions that led to the coup, instead focusing on attacking the Russian reaction to US-instigated unrest next door to them.”
On the topic of Crimea, Paul has stated multiple times that Russia’s annexation of the peninsula is not a situation that requires the involvement of the United States. In his column, he reiterated that Crimeans voted to join Russia, and earlier this month told Politico, “self-determination is a centerpiece of international law.”

And Crimea did not have the military where with all to secede from Ukrain. Had they held an election to secede you might think how that would have been handled by Ukrain much less Russia. Self determination is the key but there are many ways for that to come about.

 

[akphidelt]

What a shocker, Putin withdrawing troops like a little bitch because he knows Obama will end him!!

Potentially easing a diplomatic standoff with the West, Russian President Vladimir Putin told Germany Chancellor Angela Merkel on Monday that he'd ordered a partial withdrawal of Russian troops from his country's border area with Ukraine, Merkel's office said.

Putin made the comment to Merkel in a phone call about Ukraine, her office said. The Kremlin made no mention of a withdrawal in its description of the call but said the two leaders discussed Ukraine, including "possibilities for international assistance to restore stability."


Further details about Putin's reported order weren't immediately available. But a withdrawal may ease tensions simmering since Russia annexed Ukraine's Black Sea peninsula of Crimea this month -- a move that has led to the worst East-West relations since the Cold War.


Earlier Monday, Russian media reported that one Russian infantry battalion was being moved from the border area to its base deeper into Russia.
U.S. State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said that if reports about Russia removing troops from the border were accurate, "it would be a welcome preliminary step."

"We would urge Russia to accelerate this process," Psaki said. "We also continue to urge Russia to engage in a dialogue with the government in Kiev to de-escalate the situation, while respecting the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine."

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/31/world/europe/ukraine-crisis/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

 

[neverbend]

I said all along Putin had no intention of invading Eastern Ukraine at this time, none! He's trifling with Obama & his troops are counting their bullets. Putin will
wait till the May Ukranian election to determine the next move. If he gets a favorable outcome in the Ukranian elections he'll gladly work with them, if not then
the trouble may begin, it's so obvious. Putin is holding all the cards & against a lightweight like BO he knows when to hold them.

And your praising Obama as handing an adversary a monumental tactical US victory not seen since MacArthuer at inchon or Forrest at Brices Crossroads!

 

[Samhain]

Who the US President is, is irrelevant to Putin, as was proven when Russia invaded Georgia after Bush warned him not to. This ridiculous narrative that Russia is doing what they're doing because of any flaw in Obama is just the usual partisan hackery. The only flaw in Obama, as it was with Bush, is issuing ridiculous threats and red lines. Just stupid, irrelevant macho posturing. Putin, and Russia laugh at such nonsense, and do what they think is in their Country's best interest, and it's irrelevant who the US President is, since Crimea nor Georgia were none of our business. Nor was it any concern who the President was when Russia wenti into Afghanatstan during Carter, stayed there and escalated during Reagan, and left during Bush Sr. Russia does what they do, without regard to what the US thinks, no matter who the President is, in their part of the world. The last US President they feared was JFK.

It is my understanding that Khrushchev was NOT afraid of Kennedy. In-fact he called him an amateur.
Correct me if I'm wrong Guesser.

 

[akphidelt]

I said all along Putin had no intention of invading Eastern Ukraine at this time, none! He's trifling with Obama & his troops are counting their bullets. Putin will
wait till the May Ukranian election to determine the next move. If he gets a favorable outcome in the Ukranian elections he'll gladly work with them, if not then
the trouble may begin, it's so obvious. Putin is holding all the cards & against a lightweight like BO he knows when to hold them.

And your praising Obama as handing an adversary a monumental tactical US victory not seen since MacArthuer at inchon or Forrest at Brices Crossroads!

Putin is holding no cards. That's why he's backing off because he knows Obama will fuck him and his loser country up!!

 

[SheriffJoe]

It is my understanding that Khrushchev was NOT afraid of Kennedy. In-fact he called him an amateur.
Correct me if I'm wrong Guesser.

Correct.

Khrushchev saw Kennedy's offer to negotiate as a sign of weakness, which emboldened the Soviets to behave aggressively in Europe and Cuba.

The Berlin Wall was erected under Kennedy (1961) and the Cuban missile crisis was a crisis of his own making.

 

[The Guesser]

It is my understanding that Khrushchev was NOT afraid of Kennedy. In-fact he called him an amateur.
Correct me if I'm wrong Guesser.

At the time we had a pretty big edge edge over Russia in Military power and ability to bomb them out of existence. Khrushchev backed down in Cuba. Words were irrelevant, as they are now with Obama's red line nonsense and Bush's threats. Actions matter. Whether he called him an amateur, or whatever, Krushev backed down when he realized JFK wouldn't.

 

[SheriffJoe]

I said all along Putin had no intention of invading Eastern Ukraine at this time, none! He's trifling with Obama & his troops are counting their bullets. Putin will
wait till the May Ukranian election to determine the next move. If he gets a favorable outcome in the Ukranian elections he'll gladly work with them, if not then
the trouble may begin, it's so obvious. Putin is holding all the cards & against a lightweight like BO he knows when to hold them.

And your praising Obama as handing an adversary a monumental tactical US victory not seen since MacArthuer at inchon or Forrest at Brices Crossroads!

fratfraud has no idea what you're talking about. He's a clueless gullible 'Millennial' who's historical timeline doesn't start until Clinton.

 

[neverbend]

It is my understanding that Khrushchev was NOT afraid of Kennedy. In-fact he called him an amateur.
Correct me if I'm wrong Guesser.

Khrushchev in there face to face did not respect Kennedy, Kennedy really did not stand up to Khrushchev. Kennedy to his credit earned everyones respect during the Cuban Missile crisis. The first US president that stood up to Russia was Richard Nixon who in there face to face trimmed poor old Breshnev of whiskers & hope, I think at that meeting Detante' was reached.

Where are you now Richard Nixon, the country could have used you now!

 

[The Guesser]

Putin is holding no cards. That's why he's backing off because he knows Obama will fuck him and his loser country up!!

Putin holds all the cards in his region, just as we would if there was a similar problem in Central or North America. Obama won't do a thing to Russia, nor should he. It's none of our business.

 

[akphidelt]

Putin holds all the cards in his region, just as we would if there was a similar problem in Central or North America. Obama won't do a thing to Russia, nor should he. It's none of our business.

Not economically. He can try military action but he will be punished severely economically. Obama and the US have him by the balls. It's like a little kid teasing their much bigger brother.

 

[neverbend]

Putin is holding no cards. That's why he's backing off because he knows Obama will fuck him and his loser country up!!

You make me laugh, this is really comic relief. I'm wary of your next post suggesting that because as you state "he's backing off because he knows Obama will fuck him' Obama just might, and has the right to bestow upon himself 'The Congressional Medal of Honor"

 

[SheriffJoe]

You make me laugh, this is really comic relief. I'm wary of your next post suggesting that because as you state "he's backing off because he knows Obama will fuck him' Obama just might, and has the right to bestow upon himself 'The Congressional Medal of Honor"

Pure fratfraud parody!

Vladimir Putin Wants To Conquer Belarus, The Baltic States And Finland Says Former Advisor

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/03/30/vladimir-putin-conquer-finland-_n_5058483.html

Finland Frets as Russia Launches Military Drills on Its Doorstep

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/uk...-launches-military-drills-its-doorstep-n67866

 

[akphidelt]

You make me laugh, this is really comic relief. I'm wary of your next post suggesting that because as you state "he's backing off because he knows Obama will fuck him' Obama just might, and has the right to bestow upon himself 'The Congressional Medal of Honor"

He knows what will happen if he keeps it up. Obama does not lose. Putin is a loser and no match. He can't even take over a neighboring country without being scared of Obama!!

 

[neverbend]

Pure fratfraud parody!

Vladimir Putin Wants To Conquer Belarus, The Baltic States And Finland Says Former Advisor

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/03/30/vladimir-putin-conquer-finland-_n_5058483.html

Finland Frets as Russia Launches Military Drills on Its Doorstep

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/uk...-launches-military-drills-its-doorstep-n67866

Frat fraud probably thinks all those scenarios were in Putin's mind before Obama came to the rescue and bravely saved the day!

 

[akphidelt]

Frat fraud probably thinks all those scenarios were in Putin's mind before Obama came to the rescue and bravely saved the day!

People blamed Obama for being too weak for something he has no control over. I'm just giving him credit for looking strong over something he has no control over. Goes both ways.

 

[neverbend]

He knows what will happen if he keeps it up. Obama does not lose. Putin is a loser and no match. He can't even take over a neighboring country without being scared of Obama!!

Putin doesn't want to take over Ukraine unless he has to, Ukraine is essentially Slavic, he seems to feel that if he plays things slickly Ukraine will stay within the Russian sphere of influence, its a waiting game. Britain & Germany the two big boys of Europe want & need good relations with Russia, they will only
go along with Obama to a point & Putin is keenly aware of that

Be sincere! Putin being afraid of anything Obama can do is ludicrous. Your analysis of this standoff is as feeble as that of a baby thats just been born.

 

[neverbend]

People blamed Obama for being too weak for something he has no control over. I'm just giving him credit for looking strong over something he has no control over. Goes both ways.

Finally admitting Obama has no control over the Ukrainian standoff. The light bulb is turning on!

 

[akphidelt]

Putin doesn't want to take over Ukraine unless he has to, Ukraine is essentially Slavic, he seems to feel that if he plays things slickly Ukraine will stay within the Russian sphere of influence, its a waiting game. Britain & Germany the two big boys of Europe want & need good relations with Russia, they will only
go along with Obama to a point & Putin is keenly aware of that

Be sincere! Putin being afraid of anything Obama can do is ludicrous. Your analysis of this standoff is as feeble as that of a baby thats just been born.

Ask Osama what happens when you get on Obamas bad side. Putin knows this. He can play his little childish games but he'll back off knowing full well the consequences of fucking with Obama is far worse than looking like the bitch he is!!