Pros and Cons to buying a car outright???

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Journeyman said:
Well i know for a fact if you went into a dealer with say 35 grand in cash that would send a red flag and must be reported....But that is not the case here.

Example- If I write a check for 35 grand is that reported?

I would rather buy the vehicle outright, I do not want a red flag though, obviously, who would.

May I suggest you ask the dealer/party you are planning on buying the car from what transactions they report. If you took cash and got a bank cashier's check, I seriously doubt anything would be reported to Uncle Sam.
 

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I want the Nissan 350Z ...was all set to buy it then someone mentioned possible red flag scenario if I wrote a check for that much money.
 

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J-Man,

Found a good 2002 article for you:

http://money.cnn.com/2002/05/20/pf/autos/q_cashcar/

The main point of it is: <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD bgColor=#eeeeee>[FONT=ARIAL,HELVETICA,SANS-SERIF]If you pay $10,000+ in cash for a car, it's automatically reported to the Drug Enforcement Administration. Some of our clients get so mad they pay $9,999.99 in cash, and finance the rest. [/FONT]</TD><TD width=8></TD></TR><TR><TD width=8></TD><TD bgColor=#eeeeee height=5></TD><TD width=8></TD></TR><TR><TD width=8></TD><TD align=right bgColor=#eeeeee>
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Jman:

Just some final thoughts. Suggest that you assure yourself that you are purchasing a quality automobile more then worrying about being reported for how you purchased the car. Most people make mistakes in their choice of vehicles and pay the price in the long run. Buying the right vehicle can save you a great deal over a decade or two.
 

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thanks TEd..I have the vehicle picked out, just not sure I will buy it now...I am leaning towards the no...what sucks is I have been planning this for a couple months and now I probably won't do it.
 

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LEYKIS101 said:
J-Man,

Found a good 2002 article for you:

http://money.cnn.com/2002/05/20/pf/autos/q_cashcar/

The main point of it is: <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD bgColor=#eeeeee>[FONT=ARIAL,HELVETICA,SANS-SERIF]If you pay $10,000+ in cash for a car, it's automatically reported to the Drug Enforcement Administration. Some of our clients get so mad they pay $9,999.99 in cash, and finance the rest. [/FONT]</TD><TD width=8></TD></TR><TR><TD width=8></TD><TD bgColor=#eeeeee height=5></TD><TD width=8></TD></TR><TR><TD width=8></TD><TD align=right bgColor=#eeeeee>
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So does 10,000+ mean cash or a check? :nohead:
 

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Journeyman said:
So does 10,000+ mean cash or a check? :nohead:

My guess would be either of them. Nobody says you cant finance and pay it off in one or two payments after that though, under 10k each to avoid the reporting.
 

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LEYKIS101 said:
My guess would be either of them. Nobody says you cant finance and pay it off in one or two payments after that though, under 10k each to avoid the reporting.

:lolBIG: My year just keeps getting worse Tom ...thanks for that article.


I guess it's just not worth it.
 

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Journeyman said:
:lolBIG: My year just keeps getting worse Tom ...thanks for that article.


I guess it's just not worth it.

Sorry to hear that Journeyman, you'd think that 10k minimum should be due for an inflation increase anytime soon.
 

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A local dealer advertises " If we can't get you a car loan, we'll give you free gas for a year ! "

What exactly are you going to put the gas in ?

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LEYKIS101 said:
Sorry to hear that Journeyman, you'd think that 10k minimum should be due for an inflation increase anytime soon.

Exactly...I was thinking the same thing...if anything it may come down though....someday you can bet the govt will have a way to scan our every move.
 

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Jimmy Hoffa said:
CASH Deal

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is for suckers.

tons of blanket statements in this thread that are flat out false.

here is the MAIN (and by a big margin) concern when making a decision like this.

can you get more interest elsewhere than what a bank is going to charge you in interest on your vehicle. some places will charge you 2.9% for the first year, in cases like that you are an IDIOT to pay cash up front. HSBC bank is offering something like 5% APY for simple savings accounts etc.... its called opportunity cost, meaning if you buy the car for 20k when you could have invested that 20k at 5% and took a loan for 3% then you 'cost' yourself the chance at investing 20k at 2% profit.

of course, your credit may suck and you cant beat the current savings rates. in that case, you may still want to take out a loan and pay it off within a year as you will boost up your credit score by paying off the loan and making timely payments.

fwiw, i bought a new BWM a few months ago but was looking at some used ones. the 04 models were being offered with 1.9% financing for a year maybe longer....im sure you can get similar deals with other manufacturers.
 

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Journeyman said:
So does 10,000+ mean cash or a check? :nohead:

I did more research, it apears that IF you write a check for over 10K it is not needed to be reported...this is only for cash transactions, the 'drug dealer law'..a personal check from your checking account is not required.
 

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Journeyman said:
I did more research, it apears that IF you write a check for over 10K it is not needed to be reported...this is only for cash transactions, the 'drug dealer law'..a personal check from your checking account is not required.

Good new, J-Man.

Sublime brings up a good point, I was going to mention it too. If you can get financing(with the same price on the vehicle if you were to pay cash), look to see if you can get a better rate of return yourself and just make payments and pocket the difference.

So you gonna get something pretty soon?
 

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Well, I'm still reserved about it after reading about the report u have to fill out ....the 10k barrier seems so small, the form is an 8300 form and is designed to catch crooks who pay with lots of cash...still not 100% sure now even though it does not affect me .

I was all set to do it now I'm not sure...I went into my own business a few years ago and getting large amounts of credit is more difficult for me now...I don't really mind paying it up front but I don't want to be audited over it either or have someone snooping around...so I'm undecided...kind of depressed over it, to be honest.
 

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Journeyman said:
Well, I'm still reserved about it after reading about the report u have to fill out ....the 10k barrier seems so small, the form is an 8300 form and is designed to catch crooks who pay with lots of cash...still not 100% sure now even though it does not affect me .

I was all set to do it now I'm not sure...I went into my own business a few years ago and getting large amounts of credit is more difficult for me now...I don't really mind paying it up front but I don't want to be audited over it either or have someone snooping around...so I'm undecided...kind of depressed over it, to be honest.
There are many things that can get you audited. Buy yourself the car, and enjoy it. The only way I could see doing different is if you've really screwed the Uncle in recent years.

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Got the financing afterall...Just need 5 dimes down...looks like I will be doing this ...this is a much better scenrio.
 

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Jimmy Hoffa said:
CASH Deal

Intrest is for suckers.

Unless the interest rate you're getting on your money is higher that the rate of your loan.

You wouldn't take cash out of an account paying 5% to pay for a car when you could get 3.9% financing from the manufacturer.
 

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I should read the whole thread before I respond. sublime hit the nail on the head.
 

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