Professional Teams? Any Gay's?

[barman]

Per your last references about employment in schools - Public schools in most areas of the country would in fact have protections for gay teachers, once they're hired and members of the union.

But in many other areas, such as very socially conservative smaller towns, or at private schools most anywhere, a gay teacher would likely be wise to be very discreet about his personal life.

 

[hosnatcher]

As for the high profile individuals you cite who have publicly acknowledged their sexual preferences, they all share in common being in professions which do not have a history of unduly discriminating against homosexuals.

Further, their very strong financial lives permit them to more easily overcome any potential undue discrimination pertaining to housing or working jobs that might involve children.

Such people are unfortunately in the great minority. Most gay Americans are pretty much like you and me and cannot afford to be unduly obstructed from good housing and good employment opportunities.

So being rich can or popular can help you cope with being gay. That is what is wrong with this country is too many have the perception that being well off solves all of your problems. Like the rich are immune to clinical depression and suicidal thoughts. Or like the attractive looking people never have to worry about being loved.

Being in the entertainment business or being a professional athlete with a high profile makes your private life more public. I think it would suck to be a sports star and see my name plastered all over the TV because I got cited for possession of weed or got a DUI. The good part of being a nobody like myself is my dirty laundry isn't aired for the whole world to see unless I do something sinister. I think for a normal Joe or Jo to come out of the closet it would actually be more problems for the coworkers and friends because they would be the ones who would have to change their ways. For instance at my job everybody is cool with each other and we make racial comments, religion and political comments and gay comments in pure fun at work. But if someone would come out of the closet (we did have a couple of lesbians at work BTW) we wouldn't be able to make gay comments at work anymore because the second that gay person was laid off or fired for their work performance and not their sexual preference the first thing they would do is sue because they would have said they lost their job because they were gay. Sometimes when a guy leaves for vacation we would change his wallpaper to a picture of Lance Bass or Joey Lawerence. If say if a gay guy we worked with left on vacation and we changed his wallpaper to a picture of Jessica Alba or Megan Fox, he would cry harassment if he lost his job. Saying we wouldn't accept his sexual orientation.

 

[barman]

HS: So being rich can or popular can help you cope with being gay.

Bar: Oh no. But it can certainly put you in better position to overcome undue discrimination in housing and/or employment if you've got lots of dough.

Since most people do not have lots of dough, they're likely wiser to be discreet about their personal lives if they're gay.

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HS: The good part of being a nobody like myself is my dirty laundry isn't aired for the whole world to see unless I do something sinister.

Bar: I share your perception on this point.

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HS: I think for a normal Joe or Jo to come out of the closet it would actually be more problems for the coworkers and friends because they would be the ones who would have to change their ways. For instance at my job everybody is cool with each other and we make racial comments, religion and political comments and gay comments in pure fun at work. But if someone would come out of the closet (we did have a couple of lesbians at work BTW) we wouldn't be able to make gay comments at work anymore because the second that gay person was laid off or fired for their work performance and not their sexual preference the first thing they would do is sue because they would have said they lost their job because they were gay.

Bar: I'm still pretty sure that there's not that many jobs where someone could successfully win a lawsuit based on such a claim. Unlike race, color, creed or certain disabilities, sexual preference is not a legally protected demographic in most U.S. jurisdictions.

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HS: Sometimes when a guy leaves for vacation we would change his wallpaper to a picture of Lance Bass or Joey Lawerence. If say if a gay guy we worked with left on vacation and we changed his wallpaper to a picture of Jessica Alba or Megan Fox, he would cry harassment if he lost his job. Saying we wouldn't accept his sexual orientation.

Bar: Well now you're dealing in imaginary scenarios, so I can't fairly respond. It does sound though that you have some underlying suspicion that gay Americans somehow lack an equal sense of humor compared to most of their heterosexual neighbors. If it helps, I can assure you that's not been my experience.

Most of the gay men that I know personally would likely agree that both Jessica Alba and Megan Fox are smokin' hot, even though they themselves might not have an interest in having sex with them.

That shouldn't be a surprise to you, but perhaps it is.

 

[hosnatcher]

In California the work related discrimination and harassment laws or so much tighter than everywhere else. We had an attorney come out a couple of years ago and introduced us to the new laws.

In California if some chick tries to sue her place of employment for sexual harassment and loses she can then turn around and sue the individuals.

Also say I am outside on break smoking a fag errrr... cigarette with a coworker and we are talking about our weekend conquests and some chick that works at another company next to us hears our conversation she can sue me for sexual harassment.

Another one is say while on my break I am browsing the internet on my computer and happen to look at hot non-nude celebrity pictures and some chick glances at my computer and feels offended then she can go to HR and file a sexual harassment complaint.

I have also been talked to once because one of my coworkers emailed out a non-nude demotivational picture to a bunch of us and some chick complained about it so everybody that was copied on the email got talked to and a notification of the conversation was placed in all of our employee files.

Another incident happened about 4 years ago when one sales rep was talking to one of his female customers on the phone and was kinda flirting but not talking sex. Well a chick that sat next to him took offense because that sales rep is married and she felt sexually harassed because she overheard that conversation.

I even had a chick complain about me wearing a Michael Vick jersey to work because she is a member of PETA.

Working in California sucks bawls!!! People are always trying to find a way to sue or create job security by scaring the owners, managment and human resources. They feel that the company will be too afraid to ever fire them because they filed enough complaints on record to warrant a lawsuit.

 

[sumday]

Maybe they don't come out because deep down inside they know they are doing something morally wrong and it's meant for a man and woman to be together not 2 guys. They feel shame. The ones that do come out are truly shameless and disgusting.

 

[hosnatcher]

Some under the radar gay and lesbians that came out.

He has no problem getting the tough gangster/thug roles.

As much as she talked about dick???

Sarah Paulson??? She always seemed to shy to get kinky let alone go
muff-diving.

B.D. Wong??? Really who would have thought that. LOL!!! He wasn't fooling anyone.

 

[PO69]

Just because 3% of America is gay doesnt mean that baseball or sports is 3% gay. You really cant even compare the two in my opinion since Men who excell in sports sort of brings them to opposite "playing field" as men who are gay and might attend the Ballet or play the flute for instance.

 

[PO69]

The number in sports is DEFINITELY under 1%.

In female sports, it would be more like 25% though

 

[steaktartar]

Just because 3% of America is gay doesnt mean that baseball or sports is 3% gay. You really cant even compare the two in my opinion since Men who excell in sports sort of brings them to opposite "playing field" as men who are gay and might attend the Ballet or play the flute for instance.

lol.......flute

 

[PO69]

From what I hear,

Barman strikes song good tunes on the piccolo

 

[steaktartar]

Lol

 

[barman]

HOSNAT, now that I realize you work in California, I better understand your stated dilemmas. The legal protections afforded to gay Americans in California are for the most part not available in other parts of the USA, which is what inspired most of my own commentaries above.

 

[Paddywack]

Wow, what a thread, that belongs in the bin.

 

[Skoal37]

i think all the fudgepackers should come out. There's no need to hide it. If you suck dick then you suck dick. Have pride in yourself and let others know. Life is to short.

 

[hosnatcher]

Some under the radar gay and lesbians that came out.

He has no problem getting the tough gangster/thug roles.

As much as she talked about dick???

Sarah Paulson??? She always seemed to shy to get kinky let alone go
muff-diving.

B.D. Wong??? Really who would have thought that. LOL!!! He wasn't fooling anyone.

I notice some of the pictures I posted were removed. Did I call out an RX poster by accident?

 

[barman]

HOSN, nothing in your post was altered by RxMods

Apparently, whatever you used to insert the Image failed