Poster DEFYING tried to pull a fast one with TRUMP ODDS

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either you're a troll, or the dumbest person on this site...not a good look either way
Hey 919, no one cares at all about what you think of them, and that you can't understand that post is one of the reasons why
 

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havent seen you in a while AK, what up? /i have to agree here. If you dont like it move on, case closed. Defying is a solid dude.

What's up man!!!! Yea, I'm on permanent post review and can't pm or anything. Only reason is BAS has a personal grudge against me, otherwise there's no logical sense for me to still be on post review. But yea, I don't even know if Defying likes me, but I've been around long enough to trust him holding thousands of my dollars if there were a bet. And aside from that, this thread and the OP is just dumb, lol. TheRX attracts some sketchy dudes.
 

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Ok I will spell it out for you since you didn't want to read again. The +190 was now and I was comparing it to the Pinnacle field bet of +148 which is now. 5dimes was not +190 days ago when he offered.

If a line moves from +200 to +140 in two days, that doesn't mean a book that offered +140 2 days ago offers market odds.

Nooooo shiiiiiit people. This thread isn't about that.

Defying as a shop owner either didn't know the difference between a to win bet and a field bet, or he deliberately tried to trick people by comparing odds on 2 different bets.

I will spell it out for YOU, since you're obviously too dumb to grasp this.

The marketplace for futures varies greatly between credit and post-up, for obvious reasons. I run into it all the time, when I wanna bet a future but don't want my money tied up for months, I can almost never get as good of a price on credit.

As the one offering the credit, he sets his own price. If you don't like it, move the fuck on. Doesn't mean he is shady, and starting a thread to try to "discredit" him just makes you look like a fool. It is not his responsibility to match Pinnacle for Christ's sake.

FWIW I think the number was quite fair. But that's not really the point anyway.
 

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I will spell it out for YOU, since you're obviously too dumb to grasp this.

The marketplace for futures varies greatly between credit and post-up, for obvious reasons. I run into it all the time, when I wanna bet a future but don't want my money tied up for months, I can almost never get as good of a price on credit.

As the one offering the credit, he sets his own price. If you don't like it, move the fuck on. Doesn't mean he is shady, and starting a thread to try to "discredit" him just makes you look like a fool. It is not his responsibility to match Pinnacle for Christ's sake.

FWIW I think the number was quite fair. But that's not really the point anyway.


Haha, great post
 

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I will spell it out for YOU, since you're obviously too dumb to grasp this.
No you are too dumb to grasp this. Of course he can fuking offer whatever he wants. When I asked him why would someone bet that instead of better odds elsewhere he compared the odds on his bet to a different bet on Pinnacle. Did you or did you not click on the link in the 1st post to the Trump thread where this stuff happened?

Hey, if you don't feel like reading the thread in the link or even more carefully reading my posts in this thread that's fine, but don't insult me about something you are too lazy or too stupid to understand.
 

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This whole tread doesn't make sense. Defying knows the different between a to win and field bet. If you don't want to take it then don't take it and don't make a spectacle of it.
 

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Of course he can fuking offer whatever he wants.

Welp the thread should end with this statement. But I will humor you.

When I asked him why would someone bet that instead of better odds elsewhere he compared the odds on his bet to a different bet on Pinnacle. Did you or did you not click on the link in the 1st post to the Trump thread where this stuff happened?

Yeah but it's not like Pinny was +143 for field and he offered +145 for Trump and said "hey look, I'm offering better odds!" The Pinny field line was used as a comparison, and even if it wasn't apples to apples, it can be used as a baseline.

I don't know what the exact equivalent of a +143 field bet is, when translated to a Trump wins bet. Almost 50 extra cents seems about fair, but again, if I wanted to take the bet it would be on me to shop my options.

Bottom line is you are accusing him of trying to deceive with malicious intent, which is a shitty thing to say about someone with the very little you have to go off.

Hey, if you don't feel like reading the thread in the link or even more carefully reading my posts in this thread that's fine, but don't insult me about something you are too lazy or too stupid to understand.

Yeah, everyone gets it but you, and I'm stupid.
 

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This whole tread doesn't make sense. Defying knows the different between a to win and field bet.
Then why did he compare his +190 "Trump to win" bet to the Pinnacle +172 "Trump and all others to win" bet? Two different bets. The "Trump to win" bets were better to much better odds at that time at every other book I checked than what he was offering, which is fine, but why would he compare his bet to a different bet type which will always be below his? He either didn't as a shop owner know the difference, or he was trying to be misleading to people who back or support a candidate he despises.
 

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Bottom line is you are accusing him of trying to deceive with malicious intent, which is a shitty thing to say about someone with the very little you have to go off.
No, bottom line is he didn't know the difference between the two bets or he was being misleading. Him and his liberal ilk have a commitment against the truth and I call them out on it.

And for the fuking 90th time I know it is on the bettor to bet or not to bet. The question in this thread is is he ignorant to what a to win vs. a field bet is or was he trying to be deceptive while acting like he was Mr. so sure Trump wouldn't win and those who don't bet it are chickens.
 

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Yikes......another brutal thread the centaur......guy can take a lot of punches and keep coming back. Take a few days off kid.
 

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Then why did he compare his +190 "Trump to win" bet to the Pinnacle +172 "Trump and all others to win" bet? Two different bets. The "Trump to win" bets were better to much better odds at that time at every other book I checked than what he was offering, which is fine, but why would he compare his bet to a different bet type which will always be below his? He either didn't as a shop owner know the difference, or he was trying to be misleading to people who back or support a candidate he despises.

I'm not cheating anyone... If the Pinnacle was Trump/Field at +172 then I missed that... Regardless comparing US Players to Pinnacle is dumb anyways.

Again, +190 is the VERY best on ONLY trump at 5d... DSI doesn't even have it that good and that's credit .. my personal shop has +170... Very few people probably have access to +190.. and almost no one at PPH..

So once again, you're saying is incorrect, dumb, malicious, and ignorant...

You don't belong here. Go down to the rubber room, or peeps or wherever it is that trolls live and stay.
 

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I'm not cheating anyone... If the Pinnacle was Trump/Field at +172 then I missed that... Regardless comparing US Players to Pinnacle is dumb anyways.

Again, +190 is the VERY best on ONLY trump at 5d... DSI doesn't even have it that good and that's credit .. my personal shop has +170... Very few people probably have access to +190.. and almost no one at PPH..

So once again, you're saying is incorrect, dumb, malicious, and ignorant...

You don't belong here. Go down to the rubber room, or peeps or wherever it is that trolls live and stay.
I didn't say you were cheating. Cheating would be not paying out or saying there was no bet after it won. There is no "if" it was a Trump/Field, that is the bet they offer for the election.

You are saying you missed that the +172 was a field bet. Ok, at least we are making progress and you don't claim to be omnipotent anymore. Pretty important distinction between those bets, so can you at least admit comparing those two as if they were equal was misleading, whether you "meant" to do it or not?

Again, stop comparing what the odds are now to what you offered 2 days ago. Once again, misleading. I said in that thread they were bad odds, you defended them.

SO once again, even though you finally admit to maybe possibly not being perfect, you still have to qualify it with "oh comparing to Pinnacle is dumb anyway...DSI...credit...PPH(all current pricing, not 2 days ago before it changed pretty drastically and when you made your offer)" Like I said, when you offered +190, DSI and Bookmaker were +205. Some other books had it better. You can offer whatever you want whenever you want, but when I asked why anyone would bet it at those odds you defended it with bs, you continue to, and you add to it insults and ban threats like a typical childish liberal.
 

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What's up man!!!! Yea, I'm on permanent post review and can't pm or anything. Only reason is BAS has a personal grudge against me, otherwise there's no logical sense for me to still be on post review. But yea, I don't even know if Defying likes me, but I've been around long enough to trust him holding thousands of my dollars if there were a bet. And aside from that, this thread and the OP is just dumb, lol. TheRX attracts some sketchy dudes.

The reason is you're a fucking idiot.
 

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