People still talk about juice. Twitter and bullshit like that ruined a lot of people. Also on a -1000 odds you can find the value. I got the Dodgers at -233 and the line closed at -263. Any person that has a little bit of betting knowledge would know that what I did with the Dodgers is an amazing move and betting like that in the long run is absolutely impossible to lose. You can bet a bullshit or a value either at -250 or +300, it just depends how you work it. But, trust me chipz, if you keep betting at a certain price, while the market closes 5 to 10 points lower, you have money in your hands. You might be unlucky in the short time, but long term pays.At -260 the juice is too heavy even for me. BOL to you and everyone else. Took them yesterday with Jays -1.5 and had a roller coaster ride.