Penn St is not a elite team

[TTinCO]

Penn St hadn't won at OSU in something like 30 years. Just because they weren't impressive in a huge rivalry game doesn't mean that they aren't that good.

Penn State will THROTTLE Iowa.

 

[REDEYE]

Penn State @ IOWA in two weeks.

However, a tough tussle @ Illinios(big revenge game for the Illini) awaits Iowa first.


I 100% agree with RED EYE here, Penn State is not an elite team(meaning a top ten team in the nation).

I can pick at least ten teams in the country I would wager straight-up on a neutral field against PENN STATE. In fact, the SEC alone would produce at LEAST three of these teams(FLORIDA, GEORGIA, ALABAMA).

Completely for got about Bama, their better then Penn St too

 

[REDEYE]

Don't give away the biggest bowl gravy plays. If people haven't figured it out by now, they never will.

I guess you didn't comprehend my post. Most of those Bowl plays were in games that really didn't matter, most of us know Paterno is good in those games, but most of the time you can't factoe motivation in most of these exhibition games. When they get to the BCS championship motivation and playing a elite team will matter.

 

[REDEYE]

One game doesn't teach anybody any lessons. If it did, then USC would be horseshit for losing to Or St. Never know how any one game on a particular night is going to play out.

I think your misssing the scarcasm here. Whormoan consistently bashes USC and then pays for it every January. USC can't beat the greatest defense of all time " Oklahoma ", "Ohio ST & Michigan are by far the two best teams in the nation", yada yada yada, and he'll pay again this January too.

 

[Iceman]

Big Ten sucks but Penn St is the elite amongst them and that makes them a national title contender, IMO.

 

[Fishhead]

Big Ten sucks but Penn St is the elite amongst them and that makes them a national title contender, IMO.

Of course...........

 

[FairWarning]

For people saying USC is an elite team but Penn St isn't is funny. Part of being an elite team is beating the Oregon St's of the world too.

 

[EasyMoney]

for anybody to think PSU isn't elite because their SOS isn't great is insane. Sure their OOC scheduale wasn't tough but they did outscore those 4 opponents by a combined 171 points or 42 points a game. Meanwhile nobody on this board is complaining about how Alabama barely beat Tulane, or how UF lost to Ole Miss. To my knowledge PSU has only had 1 close game and it was on the road against the #9 team in the country. And they won it.

 

[REDEYE]

For people saying USC is an elite team but Penn St isn't is funny. Part of being an elite team is beating the Oregon St's of the world too.

Part of being a elite team is winning the big games year after year that wins championships. USC does that !! Some people only look at their flaws

 

[REDEYE]

for anybody to think PSU isn't elite because their SOS isn't great is insane. Sure their OOC scheduale wasn't tough but they did outscore those 4 opponents by a combined 171 points or 42 points a game. Meanwhile nobody on this board is complaining about how Alabama barely beat Tulane, or how UF lost to Ole Miss. To my knowledge PSU has only had 1 close game and it was on the road against the #9 team in the country. And they won it.

Throw out the stats, I just observed the game and payed attention, they wouldn't win against the upper tier teams

 

[SportsFan818]

We usually see eye to eye but you are way off with this one. Alabama would beat Penn State by double digits. The best team in the country is USC & their offense has not played up to its capabilities. Their defense is in fine form as to be expected from a P.C. squad entering the home stretch. After watching the game last night & hating Ohio State like I do, I still think they are better. Take away Pryor's mistake & Penn State doesn't win. That mistake might be the cause of yet another undeserved Big 10 participant in the BCS Title Game.

you might be a bigger usc homer than railbird and that says alot. tough game vs powerhouse arizona last night, aye?

 

[Paterno]

FWIW, I believe PSU could compete with anyone with their offensive and defensive line.

As of right now, I would be worried about playing Texas,Oklahoma, and Florida.

I think PSU are better then Bama, Georgia, and USC.

 

[midman2161]

Part of being a elite team is winning the big games year after year that wins championships. USC does that !! Some people only look at their flaws

Okay.. true.. but PSU has a great bowl record and has won all of their bowls in recent memory. The thread was stating PSU is not an elite team, no one is arguing against USC.

 

[REDEYE]

Okay.. true.. but PSU has a great bowl record and has won all of their bowls in recent memory. The thread was stating PSU is not an elite team, no one is arguing against USC.

As usual the thread gets hijacked. Their Bowl record is based in recent years off of meaningless games. These weren't elite games, fantastic that paterno gets his teams ready for these games, but none of them were against the nations elite teams.

 

[Iceman]

Of course...........

sorry. I didnt come across confidently. :nohead:

PENN ST IS AN ELITE TEAM THIS SEASON!!!!

 

[gijoe]

Redeye, I come to the conclusion, you have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[TimelyHitting]

As usual the thread gets hijacked. Their Bowl record is based in recent years off of meaningless games. These weren't elite games, fantastic that paterno gets his teams ready for these games, but none of them were against the nations elite teams.

Your arguments have been wrong since the start.

1. Kids are no more motivated for the Orange Ball, when it's not the NC game, than they are for another bowl game. This is the postseason and the last game of the season for these kids. They're playing their asses off. Stop with your BS excuse about why Joe Pa wins bowl games. You have some bullshit argument that you've made up to make your point stick.

2. Penn State has now played both OSU's and beat them both. That makes them 2-0 against teams that USC is 1-1 against. Also it is now comparable since USC got Ohio State at home and had to play Oregon State on the road. PSU had the tougher task because they got Oregon State at home and had to play Ohio State on the road. That's a tougher task and they're 2-0. Similar situations, but with better players, as well because PSU had to play a healthy Ohio State team who was starting to gel; just like USC had to play a healthy Oregon State team.

3. Why can USC beat a team that is much worse than Ohio State, Arizona, by a similar number that PSU beat Ohio State (at Ohio State) and USC is still the best and PSU sucks? Did you watch the USC game too?

4. USC can not be argued to be better than PSU. End of story. USC has looked less than impressive and they've played two common opponents. They've both played less than steller opponents and one has a loss.

5. Alabama has squeaked by bad teams a couple of times and played one great half of football. PSU has squeaked by ONE team and they were a top 10 team and they suck? They've blown out everyone else this season, but didn't blow out a top 10 team in the country so they suck? Bama has squeaked by bad teams but they're still great?

6. Part of being an ELITE team is beating the teams you should be. That's the truth. PSU has done that and some haven't.

7. Why is it that when you play great defense but bad offense you suck, but when you play great offense but no defense you're great? That is weird to me. I don't understand it because some of the team have given up a ton of points while winning but PSU gives up no points and wins and they stink?

 

[bigtendominator]

USC homers like to pick and choose which games are important. The loses are not important games to USC.

USC is and never will be what Miami was in the late '80s and early '90s.

 

[FairWarning]

Part of being a elite team is winning the big games year after year that wins championships. USC does that !! Some people only look at their flaws

Part of an elite team is showing up for all the games.

 

[REDEYE]

Part of an elite team is showing up for all the games.

Everyone still thinks Florida is elite and they lost @ home to Ole Miss