this was posted my pat mcirish a mod and very respected if not the BEST fighter against frauds
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Patrick McIrish:
Panther - I told you the exact same thing the first night on the phone brother I am saying today. You are on a gambling board, people have done this for a long time (for the most part) and not one of your reasons not to pay is valid. NOBODY WILL BUY IT!! Doesn't matter if he held your bets or put them in for you or not, doesn't matter if he is a stiff or not, doesn't matter if you feel you wouldn't have gotten paid had you won (you never did win), bottom line is you bet and you lost! When that happens you pay! The first night I even got you to agree to pay some of it, why would you pay that if you knew I wasn't right? So don't come in with this Irish/SeaUrchin stuff, I have no respect for him either. I see why you guys hung out at Vegas so much, you two are just alike in more ways than you realize.
In closing I don't go for the clique stuff. Before I was a mod here I visited several sites and spoke what I thought on every issue. I don't play the positive reinforcement game where if you agree with me on one issue then I must agree with you on the next issue. I speak what I think and move on. People I get along with understand this and I understand the same in them. I come to sites because I gamble and to learn, not because I want on-line friends. On this issue I am FAR from a Sea fan but the fact is he is right, you OWE him that money. Other that that he's been wrong on everything he has done in this situation as well. Trust me I have seen the true colors of both of you guys, not for me. My experience is when you piss both sides off on any one issue you have probably called it fairly. I'm completely happy with my stance on this from day one until today......<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Patrick McIrish:
Panther - I told you the exact same thing the first night on the phone brother I am saying today. You are on a gambling board, people have done this for a long time (for the most part) and not one of your reasons not to pay is valid. NOBODY WILL BUY IT!! Doesn't matter if he held your bets or put them in for you or not, doesn't matter if he is a stiff or not, doesn't matter if you feel you wouldn't have gotten paid had you won (you never did win), bottom line is you bet and you lost! When that happens you pay! The first night I even got you to agree to pay some of it, why would you pay that if you knew I wasn't right? So don't come in with this Irish/SeaUrchin stuff, I have no respect for him either. I see why you guys hung out at Vegas so much, you two are just alike in more ways than you realize.
In closing I don't go for the clique stuff. Before I was a mod here I visited several sites and spoke what I thought on every issue. I don't play the positive reinforcement game where if you agree with me on one issue then I must agree with you on the next issue. I speak what I think and move on. People I get along with understand this and I understand the same in them. I come to sites because I gamble and to learn, not because I want on-line friends. On this issue I am FAR from a Sea fan but the fact is he is right, you OWE him that money. Other that that he's been wrong on everything he has done in this situation as well. Trust me I have seen the true colors of both of you guys, not for me. My experience is when you piss both sides off on any one issue you have probably called it fairly. I'm completely happy with my stance on this from day one until today......<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
he cussed at you and called ken a name so that justifies you not paying him
lmao<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by panther:
pat
he took bets he could not cover he cussed me and called ken a jew bastard I would not pay him either
panther<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
lmao<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by panther:
pat
he took bets he could not cover he cussed me and called ken a jew bastard I would not pay him either
panther<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
panther glad we are on the same side
how about when it cashes you pay a little bit to one of the three
your choice
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by panther:
unlike you
I have money on the game typeing and watching the game makes it hard td denver yea.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
how about when it cashes you pay a little bit to one of the three
your choice
Date placed:
Nov 03, 2003 8:52p Single #xxxx-xxx
Football - NFL Lines Spread
Game can be seen on ABC
Denver Broncos -3 (+110) Mon@9:05p
Risk $1000.00 to win $1100.00
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by panther:
unlike you
I have money on the game typeing and watching the game makes it hard td denver yea.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
he took bets he could not cover. he cussed pat.
he was suppose to be lying bets with a outlet that could pay.
he did not the day in ??? all things where payed to this point.
their was a offshore accout of 700 that was in???he cancled a bet on that acc before kickoff.
was still willing to pay that amount.
pat had it worked out
pat told him this and he called and threaten me and my family
you need to check your boy out he is like 465k in the hole to people
panther
he was suppose to be lying bets with a outlet that could pay.
he did not the day in ??? all things where payed to this point.
their was a offshore accout of 700 that was in???he cancled a bet on that acc before kickoff.
was still willing to pay that amount.
pat had it worked out
pat told him this and he called and threaten me and my family
you need to check your boy out he is like 465k in the hole to people
panther
Identity, no I have never met sea. A few years ago someone on this forum scammed me out of 5k. I had known him before the forum though. I introduced him to a local and he got in the hole for 5k. he didn`t pay and the local came to me for the $$$, I paid the local to keep my good name, which was very hard for me as at that time I was no where near that big of player. I struggle and quit betting my self to pay off his debt but after a few months I got it paid off. it is not fun to get scammed identity and if I see it happening I do not care who it is I will voice my opinion. its funny but almost the same exact thing that happened to sea happened to me.
under no circumstances should you ever mix gambling money with friend. I had to learn the hard way and so did sea
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by IDENTITY:
honda man - why do you care so much about panther paying up? i mean i like you dont like stiff rat bastards, but you are taking this to a whole new level? why do you let it bother you so much? is sea a personal friend of yours?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
under no circumstances should you ever mix gambling money with friend. I had to learn the hard way and so did sea
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by IDENTITY:
honda man - why do you care so much about panther paying up? i mean i like you dont like stiff rat bastards, but you are taking this to a whole new level? why do you let it bother you so much? is sea a personal friend of yours?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
