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No, I'm right. Steady state cardio has nothing on HIIT.

then you must be referring to people that don't eat? only thing you're going to hit is your carb storage with HIIT, unless you stay at it for quite a long time (which only a trained runner is going to obtain?) read up.
 

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Long distance runners do little-to-no weight training which is why they're skinny .... any extra weight for a marathoner is an inhibiter. Any long distance athlete wants the least amount of fat and muscle as necessary. That's why sprinters and marathoners look so different - additionally, elite marathoners and world class sprinters have genetically much different body types.

Check out your local marathon sometime - there are some very ripped amateurs running.... they're just not the ones winning running a sub 2:30.
 

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The idiocy here is absolutely amazing. POWs have less fat than anyone. If you want to improve at endurance events, do that; if you want to improve at strength or power events, do those. If you want to do both, that's fine, too (just that improvements will come a lot slower)

Beyond that, the only important thing is consistency. Doing something that might not be perfectly effecient is still far better than searching for whatever is the absolute best
 

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The idiocy here is absolutely amazing. POWs have less fat than anyone. If you want to improve at endurance events, do that; if you want to improve at strength or power events, do those. If you want to do both, that's fine, too (just that improvements will come a lot slower)

Beyond that, the only important thing is consistency. Doing something that might not be perfectly effecient is still far better than searching for whatever is the absolute best

thought the same. diet is the most important above all else. cardiovascular fitness is second (not only for losing weight, but for your overall health)
 

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Diet is like 80%.


Once you get started, don´t stop!!!!!



Hit it on the head. Not going to lose weight unless you eat right.

Thats means chicken, steak, salmon, tuna, egg whites, veggies, fruits, OATS, protein shakes( taste good plus good protein) , sweet potatoes, etc...
 

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The idiocy here is absolutely amazing. POWs have less fat than anyone. If you want to improve at endurance events, do that; if you want to improve at strength or power events, do those. If you want to do both, that's fine, too (just that improvements will come a lot slower)

Beyond that, the only important thing is consistency. Doing something that might not be perfectly effecient is still far better than searching for whatever is the absolute best

Idiocy?
 

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then you must be referring to people that don't eat? only thing you're going to hit is your carb storage with HIIT, unless you stay at it for quite a long time (which only a trained runner is going to obtain?) read up.


WTF are you talking about?
 

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Long distance runners do little-to-no weight training which is why they're skinny .... any extra weight for a marathoner is an inhibiter. Any long distance athlete wants the least amount of fat and muscle as necessary. That's why sprinters and marathoners look so different - additionally, elite marathoners and world class sprinters have genetically much different body types.

Check out your local marathon sometime - there are some very ripped amateurs running.... they're just not the ones winning running a sub 2:30.


Ripped and muscular are different things. Running long distances like that prohibits muscle growth.

As I said, there is a reason behind it. Unfortunately most people are too ignorant to accept it.
 

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dude, if your goal is to START to get in shape, then focus on that.

set a time table: 2 months from now I'll have my body ready to start working out

set a routine: every monday and weds I'll go to the gym and do something

set a program: mondays I'll ride a bike and weds I'll do a total body workout with weights

set up rules: I'll TRY to eat a little better, and will do a little more with each workout.

2 weeks before the end of the two months I'll evaluate how I am doing and set another goal, until that time I will only focus on my current goal.

look at it this way, if you had a financial goal to save up for a vacation, and you need $2000 for the trip, you are not going to go out and get a degree in economics, or try to flip a house.

comparing workouts of a marathon runner and an Olympic powerlifter does you no good at all.

good luck
 

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The more you build the machine, the more it eats calories and fat.

Doing anything is better than doing nothing. Whatever it is you decide to do. It truly is a preference. I have circuit trained and also done nothing but use free weights and have enjoyed benefits with both.
 

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This is all I use: Dosho, Kettlebells, Heavybag:)<<

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WTF are you talking about?

what don't you understand? clearly you have no idea about what intensities of training hit which storages of macronutrients. it's a simple concept. i can provide you with percentages and all, if you wish. HIIT is not the best way to lose weight.
 

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what don't you understand? clearly you have no idea about what intensities of training hit which storages of macronutrients. it's a simple concept. i can provide you with percentages and all, if you wish. HIIT is not the best way to lose weight.

Percentages? Are you getting this out of a textbook? :ohno:


HIIT is not the best way to burn fat? News to me and just about everyone that does it.

Love to see some real world reasoning behind this, and not what your nutrition 101 class said.
 

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Percentages? Are you getting this out of a textbook? :ohno:


HIIT is not the best way to burn fat? News to me and just about everyone that does it.

Love to see some real world reasoning behind this, and not what your nutrition 101 class said.

you're dumb my man. common knowledge is that you're shredding right through your carb storage when you're doing HIIT. since when does a carb molecule and a fat molecule mean the same thing??
 

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I'll bug my trainer about it when I see him next. What he told me is to do a bulking phase that includes a ton of protein and low rep, high weight reps to build the muscle. He said I'll likely get a little chunky doing that and then after a few months to start doing cardio and low weight, high rep workouts to burn off calories and make the muscle leaner and more defined. It's possible he could be wrong though. I'll try and get some info from him.

For what it's worth, I showed this thread to my buddy who is an ex-Marine and an MMA fighter and he pretty much said word for word what I mentioned. Maybe we just do it different in Idaho... not sure.
 

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you're dumb my man. common knowledge is that you're shredding right through your carb storage when you're doing HIIT. since when does a carb molecule and a fat molecule mean the same thing??

Carb storage? The body has bones, muscle, and fat. Is there some magical place that carbs go to?

What do you think carbs turn into for "storage"?

Fat is stored energy buddy. Energy is carbs. Fat is stored carbs.


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Carb storage? The body has bones, muscle, and fat. Is there some magical place that carbs go to?

What do you think carbs turn into for "storage"?

Fat is stored energy buddy. Energy is carbs. Fat is stored carbs.


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yeah it's stored as fat after it catabolizes. when you're exercising you think the only thing you burn is fat??? get a clue moron, you burn carbs before anything in high intensity
 

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yeah it's stored as fat after it catabolizes. when you're exercising you think the only thing you burn is fat??? get a clue moron, you burn carbs before anything in high intensity

Ugh.


The point of exercising isn't to only burn "fat" while you're doing the actual exercise. You want to raise your metabolism for several hours after you're done working out.

Steady state cardio doesn't do this well, because if you're running long distances you aren't pushing yourself. And if you aren't pushing yourself your heart rate isn't up.

But hey, if you want to be fat and walk 8 miles everyday have fun.
 

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Ugh.


The point of exercising isn't to only burn "fat" while you're doing the actual exercise. You want to raise your metabolism for several hours after you're done working out.

Steady state cardio doesn't do this well, because if you're running long distances you aren't pushing yourself. And if you aren't pushing yourself your heart rate isn't up.

But hey, if you want to be fat and walk 8 miles everyday have fun.

it's a matter at how you look at things from an untrained perspective. for his perspective, he wants to lose some weight. starting with HIIT wouldn't be the ideal program to do that. he wants to drop fat, low intensity cardio and a diet is the way to go. he can do weight training for the bulk to boost his metabolism.
 

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I only get on a scale when I'm weighed at my yearly physical. % of body fat is what concerns me. Because of good genes(57 years old) and all kinds of cross-training, I'm usually around 14%.
 

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