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A person is biologically born as a male or female. If they decide to identify as a kangaroo that is their issue. The rest of society should identify them by their biological birth. Period. Why is there even any discussion here?

Exactly how I feel. Just because a transgender identifies as whatever, they are how they were born and no surgery can change that.
 

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How soon till can we magically change our age too?
 

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If that is a concern for you then yes, make it your business to impede such policy moves anywhere you feel it important.

But I am betting you have 100+ more important areas in your life more worthy of your attention :)

Don't let the Little Things unduly distract you from what you personally perceive as Bigger Things

This is the exact problem with liberal lunatic fuck tards....take little bits at a time....been happening for 50 years.

NO more fruitcake weirdos. The time has come. The crows are coming home. Trump shit all over you "lets not worry about that little thing here or little thing there..."

Any questions?
 
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Even on the news havent you seen some of these sort of manly voiced "strong" women & then they put these pussified men sitting next to them reading the news.....?.....Archie Bunker was right "Girls were girls & Men were men"
 

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Any time our government wastes money, it's worthy of all our attention.

Enjoy

Government misuse of money could reasonably be seen in literally thousands of areas, many of them within your own profession.

As mentioned, I hardly wish to instruct you on your priorities, just reasonably confident you have plenty going on in your world far more worthy of attention than any particular level of government financial gaffes, especially those at level of Oregon state
 

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How soon till can we magically change our age too?

Do it now

Assign yourself whatever age you wish. No one will be unduly affected by your choice save perhaps if you go for "16" and then attempt to enroll in high school
 

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This is the exact problem with liberal lunatic fuck tards....take little bits at a time....been happening for 50 years.

NO more fruitcake weirdos. The time has come. The crows are coming home. Trump shit all over you "lets not worry about that little thing here or little thing there..."

Any questions?

Nope

It appears you are well braced and ready for whatever happens next
 

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Enjoy

Government misuse of money could reasonably be seen in literally thousands of areas, many of them within your own profession.

As mentioned, I hardly wish to instruct you on your priorities, just reasonably confident you have plenty going on in your world far more worthy of attention than any particular level of government financial gaffes, especially those at level of Oregon state

Yes of course in my world and I hate it.
 

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Do it now

Assign yourself whatever age you wish. No one will be unduly affected by your choice save perhaps if you go for "16" and then attempt to enroll in high school

So, I cant magically change my age then? I cant be whatever age I want? Whats wrong if I want to identify as 16? Men can identify as women and go into washrooms and locker rooms, including showers.

I "Feel" I am a 16 year old boy, doesnt matter that I wasnt born that way or in that year, my feelings and delusions outweigh science and normality
 

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I remember when issues like,Tonya Harding out here was weird.. that's nothing compared to how fucked up things are nowadays
 

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So, I cant magically change my age then? I cant be whatever age I want? Whats wrong if I want to identify as 16? Men can identify as women and go into washrooms and locker rooms, including showers.

I "Feel" I am a 16 year old boy, doesnt matter that I wasnt born that way or in that year, my feelings and delusions outweigh science and normality

I think you should go for it. Wear a GoPro and document your adventures over like 12 months.
 

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I think you should go for it. Wear a GoPro and document your adventures over like 12 months.

So why cant someone "Magically" change their age, since they can "Magically" change their gender?
 

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You anti-flamers aren't gonna like this one:

MLB notebook: A's OF Joyce suspended two games By The Sports Xchange / Saturday, August 5, 2017


Major League Baseball suspended Matt Joyce for two games without pay on Saturday, one day after the Oakland Athletics outfielder yelled a gay slur at a fan.


Joyce's lost salary will be donated to PFLAG National, a LGBTQ advocacy organization, the league announced.


Joyce, who issued a public apology earlier on Saturday over Twitter, also will participate in a public outreach initiative with PFLAG National.


The Athletics released a statement Saturday in which they termed Joyce's language as "unacceptable" and said it will "not be tolerated."


The exchange occurred in the eighth inning of the Angels' 8-6 win after Los Angeles first baseman C.J. Cron made a diving stop of Joyce's grounder.
 

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(CNN)One of the most eloquent opponents of Texas' proposed gender bathroom law began identifying as a girl four years ago, when she was 3.
It was at that age that Frank and Rachel Gonzales started to realize their child, Libby, wasn't living the life she was born to live.

It wasn't always clear to them how best to support their first born. While on a family trip to California, Rachel took Libby -- then still called by her birth name -- to the toy store. It was there that things "came to a boil."

"I said, 'You can pick out anything from the gift store,' " Rachel recalled. Libby pointed at a fairy costume with a pink skirt and wings. "This is what I want."

Long before that moment, the Gonzaleses say, they saw the "early signs" their child was not her "authentic self." There were times when they thought maybe their child was gay. It wasn't until around the age of 4 or 5, when their child began to verbalize more to them who she really was, that they accepted it, too. Their child was transgender.

In the months and weeks that followed, Libby began to transition. She asked to grow out her hair; she gravitated to more stereotypically girl toys and said she felt more comfortable wearing girl clothing.

It was around January 2016 when she asked her mom whether Santa could turn her into a girl next Christmas.
"At that point, I said, 'You don't have to wait until next Christmas, it's January. Let's go shopping,' " Rachel recounted. That was the weekend her son became her daughter.

Now, at age 7, Libby is living the life she has always wanted to, as a girl.
"The weekend that she finally expressed to us that she could not go on living another day with anyone thinking that she's a boy, we cried a lot," said Frank. "We weren't upset to have a trans kid; we just knew what was ahead of us and what was ahead for her. It's really scary as a parent."

They soon began to educate themselves about what being trans meant. They spoke to doctors and professionals both inside and outside the trans community, hoping to better understand their daughter.

"It's not something that we immediately jumped on board with," Frank said of his daughter's transition. "We were very cautious; we were very hesitant, maybe too hesitant in hindsight, to accept her in her authentic self. In her authentic life."

"It's really hard as a parent to go through a transition with your child," Rachel said. "When you have a transgender child, it's not just the child that transitions, it's the family and the community."
In the months since Libby transitioned, the parents said, even their more conservative neighbors have been accepting of their daughter.

It's the Texas state government they worry about the most.
This year, the Legislature proposed "privacy" legislation that would restrict public restroom use for transgender people. Under the proposed law, more commonly known as the Texas "bathroom bill," trans men, women and children like Libby would be required to use the restroom based on the gender that's on their birth certificate, not how they identify.

During the regular session, the bill hit a dead end after a contentious debate. Vowing to get a bill on his desk, Gov. Greg Abbott called a special session in June with an agenda that included another effort by conservative lawmakers to pass a modified version of the bill.

"Another way to avoid a patchwork quilt of conflicting regulations is for Texas to establish a single statewide rule protecting the privacy of women and children," Abbott said before the session began.

"People want to do business and raise their families in a state that has safe communities, and this law helps achieve that," the governor's press secretary John Wittman said in a statement to CNN.

The bill has faced economic pressure from major corporations who have threatened to re-evaluate their business relationship with Texas if the bill is passed.

Abbott, along with Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, has been among the most vocal supporters of the bill. They have sided with proponents who say parents need reassurances that their children are protected in all circumstances while at public school and in intimate spaces.

The Gonzaleses believe the law would make their daughter less safe.
"The current legislation, which is cloaked in saying that it's a women's privacy bill, where the governor himself is calling it a transgender bathroom bill ... would put my daughter in direct harm," Frank said. "It would force her -- and her school to force her -- into a hostile environment to publicly out her every time she needed to use the restroom."

"The probability of my daughter being victimized in a restroom is exponentially higher than anyone else," Rachel added. "It's such a shame that people are so closed-minded that they want to persecute my daughter for living a life that she was born to live simply because they don't have an understanding of who she is."
Libby's parents believe the bill is not about who should go to the bathroom where. "I think this is mainly a response to legalizing gay marriage," Frank said. "This is the next battle that conservatives have decided to dig in on."

During the special summer session, the state Senate passed a version of the bill, and now the House is considering its own version.

Libby's parents say her transition has been in appearance, clothing and behavior only. There has been no medical intervention in her life so far. And though she is only 7, Libby says she knows who she really is and always has known.
Barefoot on the floor of her Dallas home, Libby giggled as she pet her dog Luna. Libby's hair is long past her shoulders, and she wore a white dress with a big matching white bow pinned into her hair. Tiny earrings shine beneath her curly locks.

"What it feels like to be transgender is to be yourself in your very own way," she read from her own testimony at the Texas state capitol earlier this year. "I love my school and my friends, and they love me, too. I don't want to be scared to go to the restroom or anywhere in public. And I never want to use the boy's restroom. It would be so weird."

Her soft voice got louder as she read the last sentence from a worn piece of crumpled paper. "Please keep me safe," she says. "Thank you."
All her parents want is what any parent wants for their child: the best. They balk at those who call them bad parents and who ask, "How can Libby know at 7 that she's a girl?" They hope other parents acknowledge that they're doing the best they can.

"My daughter is a girl. She was born a girl. She is a girl," Rachel said defiantly. "She lives the life of a girl, and there is no reason that she should be going into the boy's restroom, ever. How does your child know who they are? I can't explain that. I can't explain how I know I'm a girl. I can't explain how my daughter knows she's a girl, but I can support her in that life that she was obviously born to live. And I don't have to understand it to know that she needs my love and support to keep her safe."
 
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(CNN)One of the most eloquent opponents of Texas' proposed gender bathroom law began identifying as a girl four years ago, when she was 3.
It was at that age that Frank and Rachel Gonzales started to realize their child, Libby, wasn't living the life she was born to live.

It wasn't always clear to them how best to support their first born. While on a family trip to California, Rachel took Libby -- then still called by her birth name -- to the toy store. It was there that things "came to a boil."

"I said, 'You can pick out anything from the gift store,' " Rachel recalled. Libby pointed at a fairy costume with a pink skirt and wings. "This is what I want."

Long before that moment, the Gonzaleses say, they saw the "early signs" their child was not her "authentic self." There were times when they thought maybe their child was gay. It wasn't until around the age of 4 or 5, when their child began to verbalize more to them who she really was, that they accepted it, too. Their child was transgender.

In the months and weeks that followed, Libby began to transition. She asked to grow out her hair; she gravitated to more stereotypically girl toys and said she felt more comfortable wearing girl clothing.

It was around January 2016 when she asked her mom whether Santa could turn her into a girl next Christmas.
"At that point, I said, 'You don't have to wait until next Christmas, it's January. Let's go shopping,' " Rachel recounted. That was the weekend her son became her daughter.

Now, at age 7, Libby is living the life she has always wanted to, as a girl.
"The weekend that she finally expressed to us that she could not go on living another day with anyone thinking that she's a boy, we cried a lot," said Frank. "We weren't upset to have a trans kid; we just knew what was ahead of us and what was ahead for her. It's really scary as a parent."

They soon began to educate themselves about what being trans meant. They spoke to doctors and professionals both inside and outside the trans community, hoping to better understand their daughter.

"It's not something that we immediately jumped on board with," Frank said of his daughter's transition. "We were very cautious; we were very hesitant, maybe too hesitant in hindsight, to accept her in her authentic self. In her authentic life."

"It's really hard as a parent to go through a transition with your child," Rachel said. "When you have a transgender child, it's not just the child that transitions, it's the family and the community."
In the months since Libby transitioned, the parents said, even their more conservative neighbors have been accepting of their daughter.

It's the Texas state government they worry about the most.
This year, the Legislature proposed "privacy" legislation that would restrict public restroom use for transgender people. Under the proposed law, more commonly known as the Texas "bathroom bill," trans men, women and children like Libby would be required to use the restroom based on the gender that's on their birth certificate, not how they identify.

During the regular session, the bill hit a dead end after a contentious debate. Vowing to get a bill on his desk, Gov. Greg Abbott called a special session in June with an agenda that included another effort by conservative lawmakers to pass a modified version of the bill.

"Another way to avoid a patchwork quilt of conflicting regulations is for Texas to establish a single statewide rule protecting the privacy of women and children," Abbott said before the session began.

"People want to do business and raise their families in a state that has safe communities, and this law helps achieve that," the governor's press secretary John Wittman said in a statement to CNN.

The bill has faced economic pressure from major corporations who have threatened to re-evaluate their business relationship with Texas if the bill is passed.

Abbott, along with Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, has been among the most vocal supporters of the bill. They have sided with proponents who say parents need reassurances that their children are protected in all circumstances while at public school and in intimate spaces.

The Gonzaleses believe the law would make their daughter less safe.
"The current legislation, which is cloaked in saying that it's a women's privacy bill, where the governor himself is calling it a transgender bathroom bill ... would put my daughter in direct harm," Frank said. "It would force her -- and her school to force her -- into a hostile environment to publicly out her every time she needed to use the restroom."

"The probability of my daughter being victimized in a restroom is exponentially higher than anyone else," Rachel added. "It's such a shame that people are so closed-minded that they want to persecute my daughter for living a life that she was born to live simply because they don't have an understanding of who she is."
Libby's parents believe the bill is not about who should go to the bathroom where. "I think this is mainly a response to legalizing gay marriage," Frank said. "This is the next battle that conservatives have decided to dig in on."

During the special summer session, the state Senate passed a version of the bill, and now the House is considering its own version.

Libby's parents say her transition has been in appearance, clothing and behavior only. There has been no medical intervention in her life so far. And though she is only 7, Libby says she knows who she really is and always has known.
Barefoot on the floor of her Dallas home, Libby giggled as she pet her dog Luna. Libby's hair is long past her shoulders, and she wore a white dress with a big matching white bow pinned into her hair. Tiny earrings shine beneath her curly locks.

"What it feels like to be transgender is to be yourself in your very own way," she read from her own testimony at the Texas state capitol earlier this year. "I love my school and my friends, and they love me, too. I don't want to be scared to go to the restroom or anywhere in public. And I never want to use the boy's restroom. It would be so weird."

Her soft voice got louder as she read the last sentence from a worn piece of crumpled paper. "Please keep me safe," she says. "Thank you."
All her parents want is what any parent wants for their child: the best. They balk at those who call them bad parents and who ask, "How can Libby know at 7 that she's a girl?" They hope other parents acknowledge that they're doing the best they can.

"My daughter is a girl. She was born a girl. She is a girl," Rachel said defiantly. "She lives the life of a girl, and there is no reason that she should be going into the boy's restroom, ever. How does your child know who they are? I can't explain that. I can't explain how I know I'm a girl. I can't explain how my daughter knows she's a girl, but I can support her in that life that she was obviously born to live. And I don't have to understand it to know that she needs my love and support to keep her safe."
Good post Scott.
 
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While I'm very critical of how the left is handling the whole transgender issue in society, one can't say absolutely that gender is binary. For example there is a medical case where a woman can physically be female (boobs, vagina...) but chromosonally a male, because of a resistance to testosterone. The syndrome is called androgen insensitivity syndrome. There have been some cases in the news in the olympics where elite athletes didn't even know they were genetically male. And it's because of this syndrome that the IOC no longer does chromosome checks, but uses testosterone levels instead. That being said the % of cases is 2 to 5 out of 100,000. But, look up some of the videos on AIS on youtube, and some of these cases are beautiful women, who are genetically male.
 
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While I'm very critical of how the left is handling the whole transgender issue in society, one can't say absolutely that gender is binary. For example there is a medical case where a woman can physically be female (boobs, vagina...) but chromosonally a male, because of a resistance to testosterone. The syndrome is called androgen insensitivity syndrome. There have been some cases in the news in the olympics where elite athletes didn't even know they were genetically male. And it's because of this syndrome that the IOC no longer does chromosome checks, but uses testosterone levels instead. That being said the % of cases is 2 to 5 out of 100,000. But, look up some of the videos on AIS on youtube, and some of these cases are beautiful women, who are genetically male.
Bravo Zit, well said. And I do agree with you to a point that the left has gone a little overboard with how this is being handled but I believe some of that is because of the very harsh criticism from the right. I certainly don't agree with men dressing up as women and going into the women's bathroom. That is not being transgender and not what this is really about. But I understand that is the problem something like this can create. I don't know what the solution is to solve this but it has become a problem in our society and probably needs to be addressed.

And that 2-5 out of 100,000 stat is probably just the ones we know about. There is probably twice(if not more) that many in the closet that no one knows about. I'm back east visiting relatives and my cousin told me a story of a couple she knows who had a boy and at age 3 everyone could see that this boy was going to be gay. His actions, mannerisms, everything about him was feminine just like the girl in Scott's article. The boy is now a 22 year old gay man who has not come out and still in the closet. My guess is if this boy transgendered into a girl as a child, she probably would be living a fulfilling life as a woman right now. Instead he is a very frightened gay man afraid to come out of the closet. I think the right just needs to show a little more compassion and understanding as to what these people have to go thru in life.
 

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Wrap your head around this one.

Girls in Salinas, in the Dominican Republic are reportedly becoming boys when
they turn puberty due to a rare genetic disorder.

According to Sun UK, one-in-90 children born in Salinas grow a penis in a natural
transformation from female to male.

The process is known as the guevedoces in the country which translates to “penis at 12”,
these youngsters are referred to in medical terms as “pseudohermaphrodite.”

It is so common to be a pseudohermaphrodite in Salinas, that it is accepted as a third sex,
alongside male and female.

More... http://dailypost.ng/2017/08/07/girls-suddenly-grow-penis-age-12-village/
 

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