Opinion: comparing the COVID-19 responses of Canada vs the USA

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War analogies, with respect to the coronavirus onslaught, are appropriately plentiful these days.


In the United States, the invasion force landed while the big general was caught napping. The commander-in-chief’s defences were initially unprepared, lacking in equipment, unable to repulse the enemy – until it became evident that tens of thousands, maybe 240,000, would fall.


Canadian forces were more prepared. They reacted earlier. The general in Ottawa – it’s easy for him to look good given who is in the Oval Office – didn’t downplay the seriousness of the threat by comparing it to a normal flu bug. The population heeded his warnings and took shelter in greater numbers. The number of deaths, by comparison, has been markedly limited.

While not wanting to make too big a deal of it, Justin Trudeau addressed the comparison earlier this week. “I think I would say we’re not necessarily on the same trajectory,” he said in French. “We were quicker to get the screening done, and I think we have had more success in getting people to self-isolate.”


For his part, Donald Trump is maintaining his reputation for showing no special regard for Canada. His administration reportedly pressed medical manufacturer 3M to stop exporting N95 masks to foreign countries, including Canada, prompting a rebuke from the Prime Minister: “It would be a mistake for both of our countries to limit access to goods and essential personnel."



With per-capita differences taken into account, the number of deaths in the U.S. from COVID-19 was roughly four times that in Canada at this writing. The war is still in its early stages, and much could change. The number of fatalities in Canada has worsened considerably – it is now 166 – in the past few days. Ontario released projections Friday of 3,000 to 15,000 deaths over a one- to two-year period. The U.S. numbers are 100,000 to 240,000 over the next couple of months.


There’s the possibility that Mr. Trump and his team, who now appear more organized, could regain ground, limit the casualties below the projected numbers and get a robust economic recovery under way.


But the more likely scenario sees Canada enduring less anguish from the pandemic. The first 10 weeks of the year were critical. The damage from Washington’s slow response on detection and testing and much more has already been done. As David Axelrod, Barack Obama’s former adviser, put it, “The history is the history. You can’t rewrite it.”


Mr. Trump is having none of it, of course, denying that his government was slow to react and claiming he’s done a great job. Should trends continue, however, a foremost example to counter his claim will be Canada’s management of the crisis.

The contrasting approaches of the two countries have been cited in The New York Times, and it’s a safe bet that Democrats, who are already calling for a commission of inquiry into Mr. Trump’s handling of the calamity, will highlight the Canadian comparison.

It’s worth recalling that in the midterm elections of 2018, health care was the dominant issue, the winning card for the Democrats in taking control of the House of Representatives. The example of the superior Canadian system, notwithstanding its many shortcomings, was cited frequently by Democrats, Bernie Sanders in particular. Democratic presidential nomination front-runner Joe Biden is very familiar with the Canadian system and is an admirer.


In the U.S., problems containing the coronavirus have been compounded by the system’s lack of universal health coverage, its less adequate supply chains and its fragmented, patchwork system. Mr. Trump has often been in conflict with Democratic state governors. The Canadian government, on the other hand, has worked closely with the provinces in combating the virus.


Not everything is better north of the border. The U.S. was quicker to restrict incoming travel from China and almost all of Europe. No one will be surprised if America’s research and development infrastructure leads the way in producing drugs and a vaccine to counter the virus. Washington was as quick as Ottawa in getting out its economic rescue pan.


Many state governors, such as those in New York and Ohio, have performed strongly, as have Doug Ford in Ontario and François Legault in Quebec.
Though Mr. Trump had to backtrack on his intent to reopen his country by Easter, his government has been more candid than Mr. Trudeau’s in trying to give citizens an idea of the number of casualties from the virus and a time frame for when normal life might be restored.


In terms of overall performance in addressing COVID-19, the Trudeau government is getting considerably higher grades than Mr. Trump, whose work on it is being opposed by almost half the population.





If Ottawa survives this nightmare with far less suffering and if its management of the crisis serves to showcase Mr. Trump’s failings, it will sit well with a great many. Canadians do not wish any harm to Americans. But the great majority of them would love to see them change their government in November.



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The weak US health care system is the primary cause of the poor US response to the Trump virus. A well managed universal health care system, such as Canada's means every citizen is covered and there are no uninsured that fall through the cracks.
 

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Trump acted long before Canada. The difference is population density.

Yesterday's deaths:

630 NY
200 NJ
501 the other 48 states + US territories.
 

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57,116 per mi^2 Guttenberg, NY City
11 per mi^2 Canada

[FONT=&quot]The population density in Canada is 4 per Km[/FONT][FONT=&quot]2[/FONT][FONT=&quot] (11 people per mi[/FONT][FONT=&quot]2[/FONT][FONT=&quot]).[/FONT]
 

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I assume they will be cancelled. I thought they might throw people a bone but with business way down the next few months wouldn't hold my breathe.
 

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Raiders, off topic what you think nitro does w/ NBA win totals/futures? I know you play there

I assume they will be cancelled. I thought they might throw people a bone but with business way down the next few months wouldn't hold my breathe.
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Trump acted first
Canada does not have and urban communities that remotely resemble the largest and most impoverished US cites

The biggest difference between the two nations is that the liberal media and the liberal prime minister play for the same team

The author is spreading that libtardvirus, far more dangerous to society long term. He's ignorant, he's proud, he has no idea he's inflicted, he's spoon feeding others that don't THINK for themselves
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One of the contributing factors is also State vs Federal reaction time.

Wasn't it only last week that the Govenor of Georgia admitted the Virus was actually contagious?
How long did the Govenor of Florida leave the beaches open for spring break?

Canada has 10 provinces and 3 territories. It just seems we had a more uniform messages than the 50 States.
Mind you, even here there were some big differences from province to province.
 
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Trump acted long before Canada. The difference is population density.

Yesterday's deaths:

630 NY
200 NJ
501 the other 48 states + US territories.

NY & NJ are not the only 2 places in the USA with high "population density". Canada also has high "population density" areas. So why NY has been so hard hit is not merely explained by "population density".
 
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NYC has a population density of 27K/sq.m

Downtown Vancouver its reported as 43K/sq.m.

I haven't seen any reports of the downtown Vancouver hospital being overwhelmed with COVID-19 patients. They even refused a donation of medical masks because they were not sealed. lso, BTW, the area is said to have had 16% of Chinese origin:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downtown_Vancouver
 

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NY & NJ are not the only 2 places in the USA with high "population density". Canada also has high "population density" areas. So why NY has been so hard hit is not merely explained by "population density".
There's no place in Canada that can compare to NY.
 
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There's no place in Canada that can compare to NY.

NYC has a population density of 27K/sq.m

Downtown Vancouver its reported as 43K/sq.m.

I haven't seen any reports of the downtown Vancouver hospital being overwhelmed with COVID-19 patients. They even refused a donation of medical masks because they were not sealed. Also, BTW, the area is said to have had 16% of Chinese origin:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downtown_Vancouver

"Emergency room visits have dropped by half compared to this time last year, and calls for ambulance service are down as well, said Dix."

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-...emic-patients/
 

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The weak US health care system is the primary cause of the poor US response to the Trump virus. A well managed universal health care system, such as Canada's means every citizen is covered and there are no uninsured that fall through the cracks.

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If you look at the busiest airports in the world, the US has airports ranked 1, 3, 6, 11, 18, 21, 24, 27, 28. Then Toronto is 30, the top in Canada.
 

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