following omt on this board for awhile now,his 3* picks are about as close to a sure thing as you can get,however,it does concern me some that it seems everyone is on them today...and you know what that usually means:breakit: ...however,i will take them just because of omt strong opinion...thanks ted
oldmanTED:
If i may humbly add my 2 cents: know what would've clinched GB being a top pick for me?
if just one of its last 3 opponents had been a "good" team... Is this what caused your "much consideration"?
As always, thank you for your magnanimity, and for allowing us insights into your thought processes.
If i may humbly add my 2 cents: know what would've clinched GB being a top pick for me?
if just one of its last 3 opponents had been a "good" team... Is this what caused your "much consideration"?
As always, thank you for your magnanimity, and for allowing us insights into your thought processes.
I am not for laying points to begin with. But historically, these games lean towards Minny. They have covered last 3 in Green Bay. They won last year outright when Farve threw 4 picks. Brett's last game, 3 picks. Plus, Washington had actually scored the go ahead TD late, only to have a mystery motion penalty erase it, next play, pick. So that score is a bit misleading. Two things stand out from previous games. Running games are actually the most important factor. Second, if Brett starts forcing the ball, the Vikes know, and read Brett very well. Next, everyone in the world thought Indy would crush the Vikes, nope, tied at very end. Vikes do have quality depth at rb, Pack has Green, who has been known to fumble. Also, this is a division game, a division dog that has hung tight against the Pack. I think 1 game out of the last 8 was won by the Pack by more than 7. Moss has been practically out for 4 games now. They have adjusted to him being out of lineup. Someone mentioned common opponents already. Another lookout, Pack normally unbeatable at home. Not anymore. Another problem, facing balanced offenses, you spread this defense, it gets torched. Titan game is not that distant of a memory. Not only would I not make this a heavily weighted game, if someone gave me a Bonus Play on this game, I would take the Vikes +4.
Best Wishes...OF:howdy:
Best Wishes...OF:howdy:
They may have turned the corner, key word being may. And against what, a .500 Lion team and tied for last Cowboys and Skins. Packs last game against Skins was close to a loss. None of those teams have the weapons the Vikes do. None have winning records. If this game comes down to turnovers, and many do, which team is more likely to turn it over? When Pack faced teams with balanced attacks, featuring a strong running game, they have struggled. And I actually think the Moss factor is way overated. Culpepper is still back there. And he was close to flawless, without Moss in that second half Monday. Hate to have to worry about a backdoor if the Pack is leading by 10 late. I think Vikes are better team. Common opponents shows this. But just my opinion. Who has Green Bay beat again?
Best Wishes...OF:howdy:
Best Wishes...OF:howdy:
Most teams don't play the same for all 16 games alot of peaks and valleys.Grady Jackson being out really hurt their run defense and so the whole team was exposed.Also just like last year their were alot of turnovers in first half of year. Eliminate the tunovers and you have alot better record. Most teams can say that.Just because you had fumbles or picks in last few games doesn't mean its going to happen again. I believe they have turned the corner and Moss is a big loss for this game. Teams can adjust for their superstar loss for short term but not long term. Now its a division game and there key guy isn't there.............. Good luck to all today
Those 3 picks and 68 QB rating in Brett's last game were very similar to last big game in Green Bay, 3 ints, should have been 4 on BS overturn. Same 68 QB rating. The MNF debacle. He forces the ball way too much for me. I can only handicap what I have seen, not a turnaround I do not see. Anyone can peak against losing teams, Panthers, Skins, Lions and Cowboys. They are a combined 12-20. As far far as teams winning without their superstars, I think it depends on depth, and of course the backup. But I remember teams winning super bowls, without their so called superstar. Should be an excellent game, I think a fg decides it.
Best Wishes...O F :howdy:
Best Wishes...O F :howdy:
Favre's thumb injury had something to do with some of those errant passes. Bye week doesn't hurt either to heal up. Short week and travel for Vikes don't bode well for them in this spot either. Another reason the Vikes looked good on Monday night was the surface they played on. Indoor turf. Good kuck
OF:
Your concerns are very valid-- enough to dissuade this being a strong pick-- but not enough to cancel its being a pick:
I think that likely the game unfolds as oldmanTED describes, & to boot Minn may be in the midst of ther traditional late-season fade: i will not even think about putting money on them, no matter how lowly their opponent, untill they string together a couple of strong efforts ATS.
All the best.
Your concerns are very valid-- enough to dissuade this being a strong pick-- but not enough to cancel its being a pick:
I think that likely the game unfolds as oldmanTED describes, & to boot Minn may be in the midst of ther traditional late-season fade: i will not even think about putting money on them, no matter how lowly their opponent, untill they string together a couple of strong efforts ATS.
All the best.
