savant, i feel safe at Oly and Pinny, i also have 2 everyday locals -- who ive played with several yrs.. this gives me 4 very safe outs, i also have some money with BHB that i won in a contest, about a dime.. also have 1 small bookie that i contact from time to time.. Kinda like 4 big outs and 2 small ones.. Im dreaming of a 30k bankroll by football season next year savant, which i will breakdown by having $7500 at oly, $7500 with pinny and 15k in cash.. this will allow me to play $300 per game and if i can go 70-50 each month, this allows me to make $4500 per month and of that ill spend about 3 dimes.. well at least its a plan,, looking for a good tourney run and a profitable playoff run for both nhl and nba.. and then i hope to grind the mlb season for a nice profit..