Those that have taken the time themselves, Sooner, to compare balls at legal and the 2 lbs. less this controversy is about now understand why Officials might miss illegal psi ball.
Even if we assume the worse: Legal is 12.5 -13.5 psi. Pats are accused of "2 lbs. lighter than legal" so 10.5 psi.
Rather than make a long post just, I would encourage you to compare yourself. Any School with football team, Sporting Goods Store and other places near you would make possible to accomplish this.
Unless you squeeze near the laces it is very very hard to tell a difference.
As to the rest of what you say, yes, of course impacts (spiking or Wilford falling on ball), weather including shifts in barometric pressure and temperature can cause loss of psi but not applicable here because 11 balls were illegal & other balls were not.
Best hope for Resolution is for Brady to throw Ball Boy under the Bus.
Thank You for the nice change of pace of someone injecting reason and intellectual thought/examination into this and...objectivity....God, rare like a 66 lb. Truffle, objectivity up in here and even moreso within the American Sports Media.
Jerry is very "Old School" in the sense that, like, HONOR amongst Combatants is held in very high esteem. If he is indeed calling Pats outright Cheaters it is because he is correct. Someone deflated the balls.
I maintain that there is a possibility that this was not ordered by Belichick or even Brady but could have been done by a Ball Boy or anyone else with access to the balls simply because it is a thing that is commonly done in NFL and not ever before been a big deal so they were just trying to make the balls as Brady prefers them...
....which is normal operating procedure.
All I really take issue with is the assumption....the conclusion that the vast majority have reached that this happened as result of some evil plan by Belichick and/or Brady. May be such a common thing in NFL (fudging on psi) and because its so hard to detect might very well be a thing the Equipment Manager does totally on his own cuz its never been considered a big deal.
The only thing I questioned was when and where were the balls inflated? Were both sides inflated or checked at the same time at room temperature? Did Indy inflate their footballs to 13 PSI to account for the colder weather? Do these same footballs go through the same rigors on the sidelines such as kickers and punters practicing with them before and during the game, or are these different balls? I'm not saying the Patriots did or didn't cheat, I'm just saying that all of the scientific stuff should have been disproved before they made all of these accusations.Ba‘al Zəvûv;10955178 said:
We're past that now pocket. We have all agreed as a group that the ball rule was broken, balls were deflated and this was wrong, should not have been done.
What we are arguing about now is if it happened as result of specific instruction from Belichick and/or Brady or if decreasing psi (because it is so very hard to detect) is such common practice in NFL that Equipment Personnel would do this without having to have had instructions from above.
By the way.....if I come to CR and wanna work in a book anyway I can live at the beach and do that?
Like, could I telecommute (work via computer or answer Customer Service calls on my personal phone while drunk on Tequila on the beach) or would I have to be in the office in San Jose?
Any books with offices by the beach?
Ba‘al Zəvûv;10955219 said:
Hmm... well the second option makes for a perfect apologetic situation to deflect the bad rep from Bill and Tom... truth is, according to my experience... cheaters will always be cheaters, thieves will always be thieves, whores will always be whores, drunks will always be drunks and so on... crazy people will always be crazy people... these are just personality disorders engraved on people's instincts.
90% of the sportsbooks are in the capital San Jose... there's only one at the coast that I know of (in Jaco) and is supposed to be a very good place to work at... weather they hire gringos with no working papers I have no clue... all shops used to do this 10 years ago... now they just dont take the risk.
This kind of reminds me of this story on Dirk Nowitzki earlier this season. He was missing too many shots in warm ups and told the arena staff that the rim was off. Sure nuff it was. As many hikes as he's taken in his career, i guarantee you Brady knew exactly how much those balls were inflated. So the media is really wasting their time asking him any questions about this subject. He's not going to give them a straight answer. Especially since he's admitted in the past that he likes his footballs a little under inflated. The guilt or innocence probably lies with what happened before Brady even handled a ball.. http://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2014/1...as-off-after-missing-too-many-warm-up-jumpers
Both teams get 24 balls, is my understanding of it. These balls are checked 2 hours and 15 minutes prior to the game at which point they are released to the teams.
I think these balls are NOT used for pregame stuff. I believe that these 24 are considered "Game Balls" and reserved for use in game. But already, obviously, you raise a good point. What if they are kicking, passing around some of these 24 balls prior to game......
I don't know, very good questions. Your suggestion that a team might BE ABLE to choose a certain inflation for Cold Weather supports my proposal that Equipment Staff have a great deal of say in to what level balls are inflated. After the balls are released by the Refs to the teams...it has not been established what goes on because people have invested all their time in just ragging on Belichick so no one has investigated that yet.
I could envision ESPN eventually getting around to it. FoxSports no hope whatsoever cuz they are more like TMZ of Sports and just overembellish/make up scandalous stuff to sell Drama/trick people into watching Fox and fool folks into believing they're reporting stuff no one else is like they are bigtime really really good reporters when in fact they are just totally making stuff up. Stuff they can just say later, if they're called on it "Oh we had a bad source".
There wasn't time Sooners.
The Media just took off with it then it was just a shitstorm.
Its how it is here now. Whatever comes along the US Media just goes before the public and says whatever they think they can get away with to "one-up" their competitors and grab the largest % of Market Share (viewers).
In this case that (the best story the Media could tell to make the story "sizzle" as much as possible) was to paint Belichick as Dr. Evil
having hatched yet another nefarious cheating plan so they had to get that out and pound it.
There was no time for rational thought/scientific anything Sooner
I've heard good things about JACO
Theres a place recommended to me with "Blue" in the name....bar...hotel....hotel/bar...I forget.
I have it written down somewhere.
"papers" required distresses me. Thought I'd just be able to show up and get a job.
I do know I'd have to leave every 90 days and go to.....Guatemala was it?
Honduras Nicaragua something like that....then re-enter after a period of time.
That Jaco pocket...it IS on The Caribbean coat, yes?
Jeebus Pocket. I feel like hurling myself off a bridge right now. have you no Faith in the ability of Man to Change pocket? To find redemption?
Mike Tyson has changed pocket.
As result of a terrible tragedy, yes, so maybe its really really rare and only accomplished by those so very few who venture to the edge of the Abyss pocket and stare directly into the heart of Darkness but if Mike can change surely anyone can.
Yes, pocket?
Ba‘al Zəvûv;10955284 said:
If I were you I'd initiate contacts with said book before coming down here, they are actually hiring, PM me for more info... you have to leave every 90 days... nearest options Nicaragua or Panama. If you like booze, drugs and whores then Jaco is for you, is not a natural paradise by any means, is like San Jose in essence but in the coast, the PACIFIC coast...
With the new highway is 1 hour and 20 mins away if you drive at an average of 100km p/h and there is no traffic.
I'm not a beach guy, hate the hot weather, I'm more of a mountain cabin guy... cold weather, scotch, a good lay... I'm too pasty I can't stand the heat without getting red as a dog's dick. Planning a beach trip soon with a coworker cause I need to get out of SJ and want to learn how to surf...
Ba‘al Zəvûv;10955299 said:
Hehehe, don't get me wrong, people change or crash, people change when is usually almost too late. Mikey changed yes but he wasted all of his money before doing so... Bill and Tom never have been near the abyss, doubt they feel the need to redeem themselves or change!
Mikey changed yes, but I'm guessing he can't go nowhere near a beer or a bump of coke or he'll be crazy Mike again. It just takes one slip to revert back all that change dude. If you are a drunk and you quit drinking, deep inside you'll always be a drunk, you won't be able to drink in a recreational manner like "normal" people. That's my main point.
Are you Sean Connery pocket?
The dude who played James Bond?
I am not into booze, drugs and whores was within "another lifetime" so maybe JACO is not so good for me.
Definitely I would not, if I come to CR, be having any thing to do with drugs or at least not anything to do with that 'cept within a very small circle of people I came to know very very well.
You are very wise pocket.
Your road has been long
and frought with much peril
but you have reached a very very good place amigo.
Thanks for your generosity.
I will PM u more near to when (and if) a move to CR is reality.
Its a big step yes but this (USA) is the New Roman Empire and I will eventually have to get the hell out of here
if I want to avoid going down with the ship, so to speak.
And CR is my choice for as long as that Dictator in Suriname is in power anyways....I wanna check that place out too.
Its supposed to be like stepping back in time, like a Black & White Movie from the 1940's...."Casablanca" I believe it was compared to me as....
Internet largely unavailable....
presents a challenge getting down on the Super Bowl lol.
