Ok lefties and righties,immediatley after 9/11.What would you have done, if you were the Pres.?

[jimbutorac]

Getting back to the original topic:

Would've struck back at Taliban - give Bush credit for that. Believe any of previous presidents would've done the same. (I know, open to debate).

Subsequently, would've landed larger force in Afghanistan and spent more time and money in eliminating Taliban resistance and settling that country. And kept focus on finding and eliminating al qaeda.

Would have challenged nation to develop alternative sources of fuel so as not to be dependent upon Middle East a la Kennedy's challenge to get us to the moon. (instead of Bush's challenge to get us to Mars - wtf? Does he think OBL is there or maybe that's where Saddam's alleged WMD are hidden?)

Would've continued sanctions program against Iraq and not belligerently threatened regime change whether world opinion was with us or not.

Would not have gone thru with tax cuts. If you recall when Bush was campaigning the tax cuts were to give back to the people because the economy was doing so well. Later he justifed tax cuts to jump start economy cause economy was doing so poorly. (What a fvckin snake oil salesman. Just like the Bushies were intent on taking out saddam from the beginning they were intent on the tax cut even if they had to fabricate evidence to do either - that's fvcking obvious).

Would never have supported Patriot Act. To this day I still have not seen one piece of evidence that this has been any help in the war on terror.

Would not have declared some vague bullshvt war on terror. Would have clearly identifed perpetrators as al queda and Osama and prosecuted accordingly.

Would never ever have done something so juvenile and embarassing as coming up with color coded chart for terror alert. What a fvcking joke. No telling how many lives that has saved.

So to sum up, a much better job than this President has but then again what adult with average common sense couldn't?

 

[Skyweasel]

if I were president. There was plenty of intelligence out there on how it was coming, and said intelligence was deliberately ignored.

The Neocon calculus went like this: two-three buildings and a few thousand lives; then we can kill with impunity around the world and get the oil, remove the bill of rights, and hold power in perpetuity.

If you can't think like them, then such a scenario seems like some horrifying conclusion about people, but people are just as capable of killing their own for power as they are capable of killing foreigners.

The Neocons got the best of both worlds, they let their own get killed by foreigners, who they could then use a sheild to cover up their dirty plans, all of which were formulated and published by PNAC years ago.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/013004_in_your_face.html

"Hints as to what was discussed in the secret task force – empanelled immediately after Bush took office in January 2001 – are now on the table. They strongly suggest that inside the NEPDG records lay the deepest, darkest secrets of 9-11. The motive; the apocalyptic truth that would compel such carnage and hairpin the course of human history; the thing that no one ever wanted to know; the thing that makes it utterly believable that the US government could have deliberately facilitated the attacks of September 11th, stands on the brink of full disclosure."

 

[kayaman+]

"I feel sorry for you people who fear government more than terrorism. You must have a pretty rough life."

Terrorist are sub-sets that intimidate through fear because they have no real power.

Governments are power, absolute power corrupts absolutely, a government with too much power is definately something to be feared.

"What gets me is that the people who fear government are the same people willing to make the government more powerful by raising taxes and giving the government more money."

Those that support raising taxes usually support raising taxes on the wealthy not to give the government more power but to have a proper distribution of wealth. Also to obligate those who've gotten the most from a society give back their fair share to the society that has allowed them to do so.
On a side note, we're talking about the U.S., a multi-billion (or trillion, what ever it is) dollar economy, the idea the raising or lowering taxes for that matter would have any influence on the amount of power the government has is pretty absurd.

 

[dickman]

Kaya,

I believe that the Patriot Act is necessary to a certain extent. Especially with muslim americans whom want to defect to OBL.

 

[sleazebucket]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Patriot:
Or as the libs say on their bumper stickers "What would Martin (Sheen) do?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'd have had F-15s in the air once I heard that a plane had been hijacked.

Where was NORAD? Usually when a plane strays into a no-fly space in the US, the F-15s are there in minutes or even seconds.

 

[PatPatriot]

The notion that we are not looking for OBL is absurd...Just because the CIA dosen't report to the NYTimes everyday does not mean were not looking for him.

 

[dickman]

Sleazebucket...with your comment. If Norad would have successfully shot down one of those planes from 9/11. Then Pres. Bush would be receiving a tremendous amount heat. Especially from the libs from this message board.

Lander..or other libs..would I be wrong? Would you have criticized Bush if he would have shot down one of those planes?

 

[Oceans11]

IMO that one that came down in the middle of nowhere was possibly shot down, (in PA, flight 93).

It's pretty obvious where it was heading and there was nothing anyone could do except make the decision that you can best live with.

Even weakening the flight characteristics with cannon fire, and thereby forcing it down, would result in a fatal high speed impact 99% of the time.

I wouldn't criticise anyone for that decision.

The passenger revolt is also credible.

The revolt may even have been initiated by the F-16 firing at the passenger plane, making the civilians realise that they would have to save themselves or they were finished.

Whatever happened, may they rest in peace.

 

[mjaytee]

I hate that I got on this topic so late. But I would have actually told the truth. I would have told the American people that we needed a "Pearl Harbor event" just like my brothers at PNAC stated in their policy paper "Rebuilding America's Defenses". GWB now speaking: In fact the exact quote is "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is
likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor."(p.51) Brothers and sisters 9-11 is the new Pearl Harbor. We knew it would scare you like the burning of the Reichstag(sp?) scared the Germans. And we already had boogie men in place to blame it on. We knew that as a whole Americans are so stupid that everyone from Key West, FL to Nome, AK would be frighten by a bearded man supposedly living in caves and a third world country with a ragtag army, no navy, no air force. Even though if we had a 9-11 every year you are more likely to get killed by your spouse, a drunk driver, a street thug, or you own self. Yea, I admit that we manufactured 9-11 not me, GWB, because I am too stupid but my friends in the defense industry, CIA, and of course Israel. But I don't care if it is so obvious, you Americans have blind faith in your government thanks to my friends at Fox News especially. Let me put it in terms you may understand. When cars do not move off the lot what do car makers do? They give out 0% financing and rebates. Well, 9-11, was 0% financing and rebates for my friends. I mean we can't have peace and expect my defense buddies to make money. My oil buddies need new sources of revenue, why not just give them a whole country. And of course, Israel, well they have so much dirt on us that if we do not abide by their wishes this whole country would be in chaos. Well, that is it, I admit we killed 3,000 people actually I was hoping for a larger number but they took to long to explode those bombs we had in the WTC. However, it is for the good of all my friends, Israel, and globalists that want to see the U.S. go the same way of the Soviet Union. Thank you all for believing the official story that we just made up over a couple of beers. God Bless America and American stupidity.

 

[Skyweasel]

Was shot down; the debris was strewn over 25 miles of ground. Only way that happens is if it blows up in the air and those hijackers weren't carrying bombs. The 'lets roll's stuff was a cover story-- the government would face big, albeit probably frivolous in light of the events of the day, lawsuits. That is why they never come out and tell the truth, ala TWA 800 which the Navy took down by accident. You follow up on these stories, there are always families investigating on their own, seeing that the puzzle pieces don't even begin to fit, then being stonewalled by the government at all turns. Same old same old.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by eek:
IMO that one that came down in the middle of nowhere was possibly shot down, (in PA, flight 93).

http://www.cooperativeresearch.net/timeline/images/flight93route.jpg

It's pretty obvious where it was heading and there was nothing anyone could do except make the decision that you can best live with.

Even weakening the flight characteristics with cannon fire, and thereby forcing it down, would result in a fatal high speed impact 99% of the time.

I wouldn't criticise anyone for that decision.

The passenger revolt is also credible.

The revolt may even have been initiated by the F-16 firing at the passenger plane, making the civilians realise that they would have to save themselves or they were finished.

Whatever happened, may they rest in peace.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

 

[BuckFush]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> It's funny how the US has the greatest number of people trying to get in each year, but the whole world hates the US... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

And the reason for both is the same... they come here (and hate us) for what our government has done to their countries. Installing one scumbag dictator after another and treating them like colonies where we can go in and steal their natural resources and use their people as slave labor.

 

[Mr NJ Sports]

Patriot
"posted February 08, 2004 06:44 PM
Or as the libs say on their bumper stickers "What would Martin (Sheen) do? "

Before or after he brushed his Bugs Bunny teeth?

 

[Mr NJ Sports]

I would've done exactly what The president did.
I also would have rounded up every muslim and shipped em back to the middle east before i started the bombing.

I wouldve bombed the SHIT out of Saudi Arabia.

If the deporting wasn't done, then I wouldve "racially profiled" the hell out of them and locked em all up.

The arabs who were here in the USA dancing in the street would have been shot to death by riot police if i were in charge.


"oh thats racist , oh not all muslims are terrorists"

Ill take my chances on being right most of the time.