I would have went after Bin Laden in Afghanistan like Bush did.
I would have went on TV often (like Bush did) to restrore morale.
I wouldn't have made that assine comment about "Axis of Evil" (even if thought to be true).
I wouldn't have attacked Iraq until ALL other peaceful options were exausted and proven to be fruitless.
I sure as heck wouldn't have taken any time to hand out special privledges to the Bin Laden family on 9/11.
Of course, I disagree with some of his other policies too, but that's for another thread.
I would have went on TV often (like Bush did) to restrore morale.
I wouldn't have made that assine comment about "Axis of Evil" (even if thought to be true).
I wouldn't have attacked Iraq until ALL other peaceful options were exausted and proven to be fruitless.
I sure as heck wouldn't have taken any time to hand out special privledges to the Bin Laden family on 9/11.
Of course, I disagree with some of his other policies too, but that's for another thread.
The same....the Iraq War was neccesary ...it was time, Saddam thumbed his nose at the US and the world for 13 years after the Gulf War. Yes, Saddam was a threat and maybe he didn't have ready to go nukes, but he was very dangerous. If you think he only had some old Russian tanks, RPG's, and rifles then you should not be talking on this subject. We should have CIA operatives putting bullets in more heads around the world.
Folks this is a different age and a different time .....sorry, sanctions and talks won't always work. There is no way to be rational with people that kill innocent people for a cause. You have to strike first and strike hard.
I would have a different strategy inside of Iraq. I would not have soldiers standing around guarding buildings or checkpoints without heavy equipments/bunkers. They don't need to be sitting ducks for snipers and patroling on foot where a bomb can explode in the street. This falls under military control and not Bush .....but I would rather read about Iraqi rebels getting killed than our soldiers.
Folks this is a different age and a different time .....sorry, sanctions and talks won't always work. There is no way to be rational with people that kill innocent people for a cause. You have to strike first and strike hard.
I would have a different strategy inside of Iraq. I would not have soldiers standing around guarding buildings or checkpoints without heavy equipments/bunkers. They don't need to be sitting ducks for snipers and patroling on foot where a bomb can explode in the street. This falls under military control and not Bush .....but I would rather read about Iraqi rebels getting killed than our soldiers.
Well for one thing I would not have said " We are going to get the folks that did this"
I would have summons my people who I appointed to gather intellegence on Bin Laden. (Right after George took office I am assuming George put some of his best people on a mission to keep the whereabouts of Bin Laden).
Then I would have sent a heat seeking missle right up old Bin's ass.
Case closed
[This message was edited by codeworks on February 09, 2004 at 01:07 AM.]
I would have summons my people who I appointed to gather intellegence on Bin Laden. (Right after George took office I am assuming George put some of his best people on a mission to keep the whereabouts of Bin Laden).
Then I would have sent a heat seeking missle right up old Bin's ass.
Case closed
[This message was edited by codeworks on February 09, 2004 at 01:07 AM.]
I wouldn't have put through the Patriot Act and I surely wouldn't have created the mass fear that shutting down the airlines for days and then creating a siege mentality did. I would have resolved to do just as we did, quickly strike the Taliban with worldwide support and left open the door to attack anyone else with clear and conclusive proof that they were training and harboring Al Qaeda. Places like Yemen should have been first on our list after the fall of the Taliban, not Iraq.
Would have gone after Bin Laden and the Taliban rather than letting them regroup while I was attacking a defenseless nation that we have no proof was actually involved to get some cheap natural resources and say see "somebody paid for this" to boost my re-election possibilities.
Didn't bushwacker just call Vietnam a political war the other day?
Didn't bushwacker just call Vietnam a political war the other day?
That's a great question.......
Like pretty much everybody else said, I would have done exactly what Bush did in Afghanistan, however I would not have moved into Iraq so quickly. I would have made finding Bin Laden my #1 priority. Who knows maybe they do have him. Or maybe he is dead.
I don't have a problem with the Patriot Act. At that time we didn't know if Al Queda was planning more attacks so it was necessary to do anything that we could to get the CIA/FBI more info. If it weren't for the Patriot Act who knows there may have been more 9/11's that weren't caught.
I also don't have a problem with Bush's "Axis of Evil" comment. Flat out terrorism is "Evil" and I think he was right to go after every terorist until they are all dead. I don't believe in letting some terrorists live like others evidentally do.
Once Bin Laden was caught, or atleast not a threat anymore, than I would have went after Saddam. The UN spent 12 years and 16 resolutions trying to resolve the Iraq issue peacefully with no effect. We went in there and within 30 days Saddam was out of power. I however would not have given Saddam 3 months to hide his weapons. I would not have told him when we were coming. Unfortunately because of the Liberals in this country calling for more UN resolutions and more free passes for Saddam we had to give him a deadline which gave him plenty of time to hide his weapons. Bad move in my opinion. Had we not waited, and given him warning we would have gone in, found the weapons, and the whole world would have been on our side....except France of course.
KMAN
Like pretty much everybody else said, I would have done exactly what Bush did in Afghanistan, however I would not have moved into Iraq so quickly. I would have made finding Bin Laden my #1 priority. Who knows maybe they do have him. Or maybe he is dead.
I don't have a problem with the Patriot Act. At that time we didn't know if Al Queda was planning more attacks so it was necessary to do anything that we could to get the CIA/FBI more info. If it weren't for the Patriot Act who knows there may have been more 9/11's that weren't caught.
I also don't have a problem with Bush's "Axis of Evil" comment. Flat out terrorism is "Evil" and I think he was right to go after every terorist until they are all dead. I don't believe in letting some terrorists live like others evidentally do.
Once Bin Laden was caught, or atleast not a threat anymore, than I would have went after Saddam. The UN spent 12 years and 16 resolutions trying to resolve the Iraq issue peacefully with no effect. We went in there and within 30 days Saddam was out of power. I however would not have given Saddam 3 months to hide his weapons. I would not have told him when we were coming. Unfortunately because of the Liberals in this country calling for more UN resolutions and more free passes for Saddam we had to give him a deadline which gave him plenty of time to hide his weapons. Bad move in my opinion. Had we not waited, and given him warning we would have gone in, found the weapons, and the whole world would have been on our side....except France of course.
KMAN
The one thing that bothers me is that Saddam should have been takin out back in '91.But,Bush I decided to appease the UN and its members to leave Saddam alone because the object of the war was to kick himout of Kuwait...Well 17 UN resolutions later Saddam was still doing what he wanted,and the UN had 0 credibility with everyonelse in the mideast.
But, what the media got away with is blaming Bush I because Saddam was still in power.
I haven't heard one solution that everybody can agree on...Kerry says that we should be nicer to our allies...In other words do what they tell us to do...Well Bush I did that in'91 and where did that get us?
But, what the media got away with is blaming Bush I because Saddam was still in power.
I haven't heard one solution that everybody can agree on...Kerry says that we should be nicer to our allies...In other words do what they tell us to do...Well Bush I did that in'91 and where did that get us?
The problem with the axis of evil comment is that it's not a clear statement against terrorists however it is a racial slur and if it's not, it's about as close as you can get without it being one. As a politician racial slurs are really a bad idea.
While I of course mean no ill will against anyone here, when I see people saying "I have no problem with the Patriot Act" I almost wish they would be detained and held a while without a phone call, lawyer, trial to see if they really have no problem with it. It doesn't matter if it's you or someone else when the government can blatently ignore the basic rights that make us a great nation, that's everybody's problem.
While I of course mean no ill will against anyone here, when I see people saying "I have no problem with the Patriot Act" I almost wish they would be detained and held a while without a phone call, lawyer, trial to see if they really have no problem with it. It doesn't matter if it's you or someone else when the government can blatently ignore the basic rights that make us a great nation, that's everybody's problem.
Actually Bush 1 did listen to our allies but that was to attack not to leave.
Because of the national debt that Ronnie Raygun ran up we had to practically auction of the country off to the Japanese by means of government bonds. At the time of the whole mess, while the U.S. got a minimal amount of petroleum from Kuwait, like 5-10% if memory serves, Japan was getting above 90% (again if memory serves) of their oil from Kuwait. So basically what happened was that Japan had us by the short ones economically and called in the favor.
Because of the national debt that Ronnie Raygun ran up we had to practically auction of the country off to the Japanese by means of government bonds. At the time of the whole mess, while the U.S. got a minimal amount of petroleum from Kuwait, like 5-10% if memory serves, Japan was getting above 90% (again if memory serves) of their oil from Kuwait. So basically what happened was that Japan had us by the short ones economically and called in the favor.
"The problem with the axis of evil comment is that it's not a clear statement against terrorists however it is a racial slur and if it's not, it's about as close as you can get without it being one. As a politician racial slurs are really a bad idea."
Thats interesting. What race would that be that the slur was against?
"While I of course mean no ill will against anyone here, when I see people saying "I have no problem with the Patriot Act" I almost wish they would be detained and held a while without a phone call, lawyer, trial to see if they really have no problem with it. It doesn't matter if it's you or someone else when the government can blatently ignore the basic rights that make us a great nation, that's everybody's problem."
While I of course mean no ill will against anyone here, when I see people saying "the Patriot Act is an attack my civil liberties,"
I almost wish a terrorist who should have been caught, but couldn't be touched, came up to your house and blew it up with you and your family inside.
Thats interesting. What race would that be that the slur was against?
"While I of course mean no ill will against anyone here, when I see people saying "I have no problem with the Patriot Act" I almost wish they would be detained and held a while without a phone call, lawyer, trial to see if they really have no problem with it. It doesn't matter if it's you or someone else when the government can blatently ignore the basic rights that make us a great nation, that's everybody's problem."
While I of course mean no ill will against anyone here, when I see people saying "the Patriot Act is an attack my civil liberties,"
I almost wish a terrorist who should have been caught, but couldn't be touched, came up to your house and blew it up with you and your family inside.
The comment can easily be interpreted as meaning arabic people are evil.
Which terrorist attack has the Patriot Act pervented?
Franklin once said something to the effect of those that willing give up their freedoms don't deserve them.
I guess you don't really understand or deserve freedom Igetp2s.
Which terrorist attack has the Patriot Act pervented?
Franklin once said something to the effect of those that willing give up their freedoms don't deserve them.
I guess you don't really understand or deserve freedom Igetp2s.
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There are some and have detered others but how do you count lives or attacks saved you can't.
I am still waiting for someone to post how they have personally been affected by the P-act.
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There are some and have detered others but how do you count lives or attacks saved you can't.
I am still waiting for someone to post how they have personally been affected by the P-act.
I would have, at least ONCE, made a statement regarding the loss of Canadian life (everyone else got a statement, except us) and I would have at least ONCE, made a statement thanking the hundreds, yes hundreds, of Canadians who opened their doors and provided food and shelter to Americans whose flights were re-routed to our airports. I would certainly have put my disdain for Chretien aside for a moment to thank the people who helped make that day a little easier on some of my own citizens.
Call me crazy.
Call me crazy.
