OFFSHORE OFFSHORE OFFSHORE is it time for RX to change business model??

[skins85]

what makes anyone think that the governments involvement in anything will make it better? the leagues want a royalty, the governments want the tax revenue.....government fucks up everything. bookies and drug dealers will always be in business because the government is always 10 steps behind them. offshores will have to clear up their integrity quick though. hearing people having trouble getting paid or being told they were cheating is bullshit and they are gonna have to sure up their reputation. bookies in vegas are still doing well, so are pot dealers in colorado.

 

[tatehill2000]

With it's heavy emphasis on alienating new and old posters alike, lack of any kind of coherent moderation on the boards and mainly ultra right wing white power trump humping facist posters, I don't see the Rx surviving much longer

lololol.. yep your right on.. haha.. 90% of betters ACTUALLY ARE TRANSGENDER pole smoking hairy armpit loving tofu eating Jamelle Hill worshiping self hating whiney snowflakes

 

[Fishhead]

lololol.. yep your right on.. haha.. 90% of betters ACTUALLY ARE TRANSGENDER pole smoking hairy armpit loving tofu eating Jamelle Hill worshiping self hating whiney snowflakes

TATE with a power boot........

azzkick(&^

 

[Betallsports]

what makes anyone think that the governments involvement in anything will make it better? the leagues want a royalty, the governments want the tax revenue.....government fucks up everything. bookies and drug dealers will always be in business because the government is always 10 steps behind them. offshores will have to clear up their integrity quick though. hearing people having trouble getting paid or being told they were cheating is bullshit and they are gonna have to sure up their reputation. bookies in vegas are still doing well, so are pot dealers in colorado.

Yeah but the Government aren't the ones running the Sportsbooks. Yes they want their's ( tax $$ ) but they won't be screwing up anything.

as for the Leagues wanting their cut, they can pound sand. They never asked or got it from LV, why should this be any different ..

 

[skins85]

Yeah but the Government aren't the ones running the Sportsbooks. Yes they want their's ( tax $$ ) but they won't be screwing up anything.

as for the Leagues wanting their cut, they can pound sand. They never asked or got it from LV, why should this be any different ..

i don’t think the govt has to run it to fuck it up. All they need is their hand in it and there will be flaws. Sure sportsbooks will be run by people who know what they are doing but anything being micromanaged it gets fucked over. An organization ran from the top only interested in profit will be beaten by better competition. Simply put the government and leagues are unable to handle what they have just opened and won’t do it well enough to stop the underground things from happeneing.

 

[cloverleaf]

With it's heavy emphasis on alienating new and old posters alike, lack of any kind of coherent moderation on the boards and mainly ultra right wing white power trump humping facist posters, I don't see the Rx surviving much longer

You are a bloody IDIOT!

Why don't you take your 14 post and get the hell out of theRX.

 

[TheComputerGroup]

You will be getting back a Neteller type of business back in the mix. Might even be Neteller itself. They never went anywhere, they just stopped taking U.S business.

Did the US govt shut Neteller out of the US? Or were they scared so bad about getting busted, they figured they would step out?

Odd to see the US govt to stand by & allow companies like Neteller to have money switch hands between offshore & american bettors while they're trying to keep all money here in the US. I don't see casinos & sports books here in america sitting silent on this issue either while offshore books are taking money for supposed targets of US casinos & bettors.

 

[BillyRayValentine]

The two owners of Neteller were arrested either 2006 or 2007 after they went public. They were charged with transferring money to promote gambling (basically money laundering). I personally think if they stayed private this would not of happened but who knows.

 

[Enfuego]

The model will remain the same and there is nothing but growth ahead for many involved in the industry...including The RX.

This kind of attitude is disappointing. Why would you not leave open the possibility of change based on the current and future gambling landscape?

 

[Enfuego]

With it's heavy emphasis on alienating new and old posters alike, lack of any kind of coherent moderation on the boards and mainly ultra right wing white power trump humping facist posters, I don't see the Rx surviving much longer

This comment, by a ghost, is one of the dumbest I've read here since the start of the year.

 

[Acebb]

I'm beginning to lean to the opinion of BAS and others that believe this will be PLUS for offshore sportsbooks within the United States.

I just don't see it.

It is still, and will remain, illegal to wager offshore. Funding the accounts (and getting paid promptly) is a problem. Those problems will be removed once states adopt sports wagering.
I have a Heritage account and I won't really have any incentive to use it. I'm simply not going to do the bitcoin thing to get 108 juice. It isn't worth the effort for me.

Once the states get this up and running there will be more transparency and books are going to have to be more careful about banning people (you can complain to your representatives or a state gaming commission) and I think the competition will make things better for the players.

I think offshore will be severely hurt by this and will be scrambling for ways to keep US players.

 

[Acebb]

Hypothetically speaking, what if here in america the govt passes a law that states you could be prosecuted if caught transferring money to an offshore book? I don't think it will come to that, but who knows.

Well, it is illegal to actually place a wager at an offshore book. But obviously the government doesn't have the resources to prosecute everyone who does that. The real thing that can trip you up is accepting payouts. That is a clear violation of federal statutes and you *could* get sent to prison.

 

[Acebb]

Hahaha, here is an old FBI News Release warning you online gambling is illegal!

Online Gambling​

Don’t Roll the Dice


If you’ve ever thought about visiting a cyber casino, here’s something you should know: it’s illegal to gamble online in the United States.
“You can go to Vegas. You can go to Atlantic City. You can go to a racetrack. You can go to those places and gamble legally. But don’t do it online. It’s against the law,” says Leslie Bryant, head of our Cyber Crime Fraud unit at FBI Headquarters.
That means:
…No placing cyber bets on sporting events or in virtual card games;
…No transferring money electronically for gambling; and
…No wagers in offshore Internet casinos even if you live in the U.S.



FYI, here are the primary federal laws that govern online gambling:
Transmission of wagering, betting by use of a wire communication

• Broadcasting lottery information
• Fraud by wire
• Mail fraud: Attempt and Conspiracy

​

 

[Fishhead]

I just don't see it.

It is still, and will remain, illegal to wager offshore. Funding the accounts (and getting paid promptly) is a problem. Those problems will be removed once states adopt sports wagering.
I have a Heritage account and I won't really have any incentive to use it. I'm simply not going to do the bitcoin thing to get 108 juice. It isn't worth the effort for me.

Once the states get this up and running there will be more transparency and books are going to have to be more careful about banning people (you can complain to your representatives or a state gaming commission) and I think the competition will make things better for the players.

Why, it's a breeze, plus one has other good alternative offshore sites to use other than just Heritage.

Offshore offers much, much more than Nevada now, and this will be the same in other states moving forward.

 

[5teamparlay]

Maybe

This will be a KICK in the ass to the OFfshore books for better everything.

 

[Betallsports]

Will BAS SPORTS be offering -107 to compete?

If I was a brick and mortar Sportsbook, My opening Promo would be -105 for the first year, then offer -107 the rest of the way.

-105 when wagering onsite, and -107 online. All of the restaurants , Bars and Sportsbook at my place would be packed.

Come One ... Come All

 

[Betallsports]

Why, it's a breeze, plus one has other good alternative offshore sites to use other than just Heritage.

Offshore offers much, much more than Nevada now, and this will be the same in other states moving forward.

Agree. and very true.

Offshore offers the Most and you can't even compare.

Just to use as an example ...People think that these new U.S based Sportsbooks are going to offer wagers on the 100's of Soccer games out there ? or some of those leagues ?

Live in game wagering I believe won't be offered. Reduced juice won't be offered

People don't realize, Vegas is mainly a Square man's paradise. The "Sharps" that do gamble there find whatever edge they can and jump on it.
But Vegas are fill of Joe's, because they are visitors/tourist

 

[Fishhead]

If I was a brick and mortar Sportsbook, My opening Promo would be -105 for the first year, then offer -107 the rest of the way.

-105 when wagering onsite, and -107 online. All of the restaurants , Bars and Sportsbook at my place would be packed.

Come One ... Come All

dbanana0-9

 

[5teamparlay]

The model will remain the same and there is nothing but growth ahead for many involved in the industry...including The RX.

DREw- Looks like there is no more offshore forum—

nailed it here!!

 

[Acebb]

By the end of 2022, at least 27 states will have legal sports wagering.

Offshore is dead for US residents.