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I realized that he was in KC after I posted it.

However, his drafts in KC and NE have been great. However, that still doesn't answer why Bellichoke hasn't won since the spygate

Hasn't won what? Its hard to win a superbowl. 32 team league with teams spending relatively = amounts of $ on draft, free agency. It is a very socialism driven system. Its not like you can just Yankees or Lakers a title in football.

That '07 year was the last year they had a veteran D, since then it has been in transition. Lost Brady for 1 year, that was basically a year down the drain. '09 the team just wasn't very good, D was way too young and had no running game. Brady/Welker/Moss basically carried them to 10-6 that year (and vs a weak schedule tbh) Last year they lose in the playoffs after having a reg season in which they pretty much beat everyone (SD, Pitt, Indy, Chi, NYJ) and score over 30ppg. Its not like they've sucked since spygate, they still handle people fairly regularly.

I wish the bookies thought bellichoke was a fraud and Brady sucked, then I could bet them once in awhile without having to lay 7 or more.
 

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[/U][/B]Cmooooonnn Maaaaaannn...sacking Brady 5x, causing 1 turnover and holding the greatest Offense ever to walk an football field to 14 points was nothing but luck????

The Gmen winning the game was LUCK! Them holding the Pats to 14 points was GREAT!
The Giants did shit on offense.
 

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Pioli hasn't been with NE for 3 years now.

I was giving him the benefit of the doubt that in general the moves the Pats have made through the draft with picks was great...knowing Pioli had nothing to do with the latter two. I didn't want to say anything because I figured he knew Pioli has been gone for a while.
 

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I was giving him the benefit of the doubt that in general the moves the Pats have made through the draft with picks was great...knowing Pioli had nothing to do with the latter two. I didn't want to say anything because I figured he knew Pioli has been gone for a while.

I appreciate it, but completely forgot.
 

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The Gmen winning the game was LUCK! Them holding the Pats to 14 points was GREAT!
The Giants did shit on offense.

Besides score 2 touchdowns in the 4th quarter. I think this was the only time a team had scored 2 go ahead TDs in the 4th quarter of a Superbowl.
 

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Besides score 2 touchdowns in the 4th quarter. I think this was the only time a team had scored 2 go ahead TDs in the 4th quarter of a Superbowl.

I agree.
Have to say though if they played 9 more times I believe NE would of won all 9 games. They were unstoppable that year. Until the Super Bowl that is
 

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love how a team wins 3 sb's and people are trying to discredit it lol....

pats win that sb vs the nyg 8of10 times....the giants beat them on that day and are champs congrats to them for playing a more physical game

and patsfan is right its NOT easy to win ONE sb, nevermind 3...ask buffalo...ask half the goddamn league for christs sake....jets ryan talks a ton of smack so much in fact youd think they have a ring...they dont even have an afc champion ring, new england has 4 of those....
 

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love how a team wins 3 sb's and people are trying to discredit it lol....

pats win that sb vs the nyg 8of10 times....the giants beat them on that day and are champs congrats to them for playing a more physical game

and patsfan is right its NOT easy to win ONE sb, nevermind 3...ask buffalo...ask half the goddamn league for christs sake....jets ryan talks a ton of smack so much in fact youd think they have a ring...they dont even have an afc champion ring, new england has 4 of those....

But they didn't.

They were given the biggest bullshit call in the history of the NFL vs Raiders. Total bullshit call on Tuck rule.

For a team so great, what they win the by 3, 3 and 10?
 

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