100% of those highest paying jobs require the most commitment, the longest education and the largest student loans.
It's a shame that your typical high school drop out doesn't make more.
100% of those highest paying jobs require the most commitment, the longest education and the largest student loans.
It's a shame that your typical high school drop out doesn't make more.
LOL
not by choice
you and mama obama want anything, but reality is beginning to settle in
I expect it to be that way, it's the right thing to do
Hardest work, most education, most debt and biggest commitment makes the most money. how do you think income levels should be determined? by politicians?
Now if you get a job that pays you $ 300,000 a year after your husband secures a grant for your new employer, then I might have a problem with that
Wouldnt want to confuse you with the facts but physicians could all work for free in this country as several people have pointed out and Medicare could still go bankrupt. Physician salaries are not the problem but Obama does not want to address the two main problems driving up healthcare costs: lawyers and the ridiculously complex payment system for Medicare/Medicaid leading to unintentional fraud.
Physicians give up 12 years of their life, many are going into 200,000+ in educational debt (not including the interest accumulating over the years), and busted their butts and you do not think they should make what they are making? Who do you want going into healthcare because I can tell you the best of the best will not be going into it. You have lawyers, businessman, politicians, and anyone else telling physicians how they should treat their patients, and what they should make. They spend more time with administative work than with patients and they even need to hire people to try and figure out this ridiculous healthcare payment system (who by the way cant figure it out either).
Why are people not up in arms about all the people trying to get rich with lawsuits? You better believe once those poor people get free healthcare they will be in doctors offices everyday trying to hit the lotto with a lawsuit (see Costa Ricas healthcare system).
lawyers are 17 btw ... about 60k/yr behind your atathesoliticans :toast:
The top 24 according to the U.S. Department of Labor:
Surgeon: $181,850 Anesthesiologist: $174,610 OB/GYN: $174,610 Oral and maxillofacial surgeon: $169,600 Internist: $156,790 Prosthodontist: $156,710 Orthodontist: $153,240 Psychiatrist: $151,380 Chief Executive Officer: $140,880 Engineering Manager: $140,210 Pediatrician: $140,000 Family or general practitioner: $137,980 Physician/surgeon, all other: $137,100 Airline Pilot: $134,090 Dentist: $132,660 Podiatrist: $111,130 Lawyer: $110,590 Dentist, any other specialist: $106,040 Air Traffic Controller: $100,430 Computer and Information Systems Manager: $100,110 Marketing Manager: $100,020 Natural Sciences Manager: $97,560 Sales Manager: $96,950 Astronomer: $96,780
The VA? Surely you jest? The doctors who learned their skills at the Joseph Mengele School of Sadistic Medicine? The VA is the biggest disgrace the government has to offer to date. Socialist health care would turn our current system into another VA.
Anything the government runs is incompetent.
Do these figures include the insurance needed by a surgeon and Anesthesiologist for malpractice protection?
i'd also love to see the average student loan of the top 8
of course grumpy old men like punter can't see that these folks deserve every penny they get, he just assumes healthcare is broke because medical practitioners make too much money? well, that's convenient
then he brings up his wife, nurse punter? why the hell should a nurse be in the top 20 of pay? they don't go to school for the same degree, don't need to carry malpractice insurance since they don't own the company, and they don't actually perform the procedures. by that moronic reasoning a dental assistant should be #13 on the pay scale. hell, i keep great care of my teeth and never need fillings so the assistant is the one doing all the work in my case. The dentist actually does very little of anything
You gotta be smart enough to know that the point was not how little some make or how much some make but the concentration of so many high paying professions in one field.
The education thing is ok but many careers require a lot of education but those people dont make the top 20.
At some point you have to consider that the system is loaded so that even the not so bright in a certain profession will make a lot of money.
And then you talkshow conservatives defend that as free enterprise. Bullshit!
The education thing is ok but many careers require a lot of education but those people dont make the top 20.
At some point you have to consider that the system is loaded so that even the not so bright in a certain profession will make a lot of money.
And then you talkshow conservatives defend that as free enterprise. Bullshit!
all those numbers appear way too low to me for most medical professions, with the exception of psychiatrists, which appears to be overstated.
there are so many people from other professions exceeding those numbers as well, and by significant margins. I'm guessing a combination of averaging and classifications help to distort the numbers.
There is no doubt the medical profession is one of the highest paying professions, it deserves to be. But there are many, many, many professionals, managers, business owners, analysts, brokers and even restaurateurs earning as much or more.
It helps to skew arguments so a Punter can make figures lie by breaking down people who have obtained essentially equivalent medical degrees into as many different professions as possible. We can't simply call medical doctors "medical doctors", that's not as effective when libbies are trying to fool their loony cohorts.
